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8 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Bo dropping the gloves and getting hurt would be peak Canucks
Nobody would be happy, not even the folks who've been crying for pushback from him
Those people are permanently unhappy and zero attempt should be made to cater to them.
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7 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Even at age 73 Rutherford could probably beat up the pencil neck dweebs in the Vancouver media.
Im sure he’s not intimidated by them.
JR vs Squire Barnes!!?
Why not!? People are paying to watch YouTubers box these days!
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Just now, King Heffy said:
No one in their right mind looks at the BS Rutherford is pulling and considers him fit for continued employment. If he is actually allowed to continue destroying the franchise, I'm out. Time to hit Aquaman in the wallet if he lets this worthless sack of **** continue to waste Vancouver's oxygen.
If Aquaman fired JR then he’d just hire the next guy and say “hey… your job is to retool around this core”
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1 minute ago, Harold Drunken said:
One has to wish that with all the doom and gloom and seeing that this club just can't catch a break....could this be the year we finally draw #1 overall?
Works for me! Hometown hero leads a tormented franchise to the promised land? Why not? Why can’t we be the Disney movie for once!?
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18 minutes ago, grandmaster said:
People still going on about JR. The guy has been doing this job more than any previous manager we’ve had. He is a the most qualified and experienced expert. Give him more time.
I’ve been doing my job for 23 years and when I see a punk critique what I do I spit it back at them and say how I don’t tell them how to flip burgers at McDonald’s (they really love that, lol).
Well I'll be damned! I always figured you were around the same age or younger than myself. Keep up that youthful energy old boy!
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Aww man... Crushing news.
RIP Gino
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35 minutes ago, lmm said:
that would make sense, if
they din't sign JT and Brockturddler to anchor contracts
but since they did
it makes no sense at all
Yep! Doesn’t look good.
I’m not saying that they’ve made the right moves or will do in the future.You can’t say they don’t know that we have the wrong mix of players. Clearly they do
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6 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:
Which stats do you look at out of curiosity? Personally I look at oiGA, oiSV%, dZS, CORSI and I'll look into our goaltending to see wether or not (which its quite clear we havent had good goaltending) there are issues in net with weak goals. I look at dpairs and time spent with each partner, HDCA HDGA etc. There are a lot of stats to look into and get a sense of what is really going on. Keep in mind, he takes on the top players most of the time and not only that, goaltending has been weak. Our FWDs are horrendous in our own zone too. Not only that but when guys who primarily take dzone duties, are on the ice with forwards who cant win draws, their chances of getting scored on go up. Last night in the PIT game, the 1st and 3rd goal came RIGHT after a faceoff loss for us. Then a terrible giveway/turnover at the blueline left OEL facing a 2v1 down low and its in the back of our net. Like yes OEL and Myers HAVE made bad plays and cost us goals, but overall they have a far bigger impact positively than they do negatively. Because they spend the majority of the time taking the dzone duties, they will of course be at risk of getting scored on more than any other pair, so when its in the back of the net due to bad coverage on fwds, poor goaltending or their own faults, they ALWAYS get called out, JUST because they are on the ice. Its just so dumb. Guys who handle the puck more often are more likely to turn it over just by pure chance of error being higher, guys who take the heavy brunt of defensive duties are more likely to make a mistake in their own zone. What would help is winning f***ing faceoffs to start. win the draw, gain possession and your chances of being scored on drastically drop. Yes there is still the chance of turnovers, but the chances of turnovers are FAR LESS than getting scored on overall.
I try not to get too bogged down by advance stats but I do glance at Corsi, oZS vs dDZ and takeaways vs giveaways. (though I do not see the last one being discussed often so perhaps it's not as relevant as I think it is?) In a more general sense I think that his game has been in a gradual decline for the last 5ish years. His time in Vancouver has simply been a continuance of that. He perhaps had a bit of a bump there compared to the last year in Arizona but I would expect the trend to continue as he ages.
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8 minutes ago, aGENT said:
Unfortunately trades aren't going to just magically happen before the TDL. Very few trades are made before then, particularly in the recent Covid-cap environment. It is what it is.
We've got near 2 months of waiting, watching this crap, to do still... Get comfy
And FWIW, the quote said players need to turn things around quickly, not that changes would happen quickly
I sure hope you're wrong!
Other teams still make stupid moves in a flat cap environment no? We have to believe in their ability to be stupid!! Maybe we should be calling on the Leafs?
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2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:
You can write an episode.
The moive idea has been turfed. Going to do a soap oprea now, everyone can get it.
I'm gonna do a really, really scary halloween special and call it simply ...'Yeo'
The "Can Man" Adrien Broner! Anybody CAN get it! Alas I can't quote much more than that without risking a suspension I'm afraid!
That's who I thought of though lol!
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4 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:
its in this threat that is all about OEL and its primarily about his +/- and the people going off the deep end is ridiculous he's sick to his stomach about OEL and I'm pointing out all these other players who are just as "bad" as OEL. This thread is so dumb. ROR who is a Selke winner and has had 12 consecutive years of getting Selke votes and top 5 the last 4 years including winning the Selke. Why are we talking about +/- when one of the best shut down C's in the league has the worst +/- in the entire league? This thread is brain dead. ROR is MUCH better than his +/- indicate and OEL is also better than his +/- indicates. Our goal tending has been attrocious. The systems and dzone structure is horrendous.
I agree with you on +/- but if you look at more advanced stats, they are also not terribly flattering to OEL. This thread gets a shrug from me. Flawed logic but there's reasons to be concerned with OEL all the same.
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12 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:
All true but I dont know if they will be central to the plot of a movie that should be called...
'Miller: the song that never ends'...the told-to-much story of a loud spicy forward blamed for a teams faliure due to bad goal tending and weak D.
Should people not be frustrated with Miller because the team has other issues as well? From what I have personally read everyone from the owner on down has been criticized. (and rightfully so) Miller is a prominent source of frustration for a reason.
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7 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:
Getting the feeling that Rutherford and Allvin are in "don't care" mode. I believe that the owner is blocking transactions and JR/PA are limited in what they can do. Really bothers me that they sent Smyl to the wolves, like cowards. Are they hiding in some bunker? Or are they still doing some socializing in Pittsburgh?
I'm not even excited for Canucks games anymore. Used to be I would be pumped all day waiting for the game to start. Now, I just get annoyed that they're playing another game and they still haven't done anything to fix the team. I feel bad for Bruce having to try and answer for this team's mess. Everyone seems to know the players aren't good enough or the right mix, except for JR/PA.
Lol wut...?
I knew it was going to be a challenge,” Rutherford said. “We had some work to do to improve the team. It’s probably been a little bigger challenge than I expected in trying to unravel the cap situation here. The sooner we can do that, the sooner we can move forward and improve the team.
He literally said this just the other day. It sounds like they understand just fine.
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31 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:
No one wants Miller’s contract or attitude.
Why would some small winger effect Bo’s value?
Ahem!!! *elbows you from the side*. By attitude you mean “showing he cares” and “leadership and all that…. Right!?
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Does this mean we can unlock the 1200 page Miller masterpiece from the off-season!?
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3 minutes ago, Bounce000 said:
Crosby had the same problem when he came into the league, he’ll learn
He scored 102 points while he learned that lesson but your point stands and is correct lol
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We’re pretty good at this hockey thing eh?
I never get tired of reminders!
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This question does not compute. What is the return/cost of moving each? It's not as simple as "do we want this guy or that guy on the team?" If moving a guy out is going to cost us assets then I think we should chill out. Are we so close to contending that we absolutely HAVE to move someone else regardless of the cost? I don't think so.
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7 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
We aren't gonna beat out Anaheim and Chicago but we can sink enough to draft top five imo
Losing Horvat alone would be devastating to this team's ability to compete, if only from a possession standpoint because of how heavily we lean on him for faceoffs
Trade him and we likely go into a tailspin
I'd like to keep Bo but I don't believe he'll extend, thus he must be traded as he can't be allowed to walk
I think Bo likely is moved as well. Something aside from just picks/prospects will be coming back however.
Tanking is difficult for the same reasons that making the playoffs is difficult. We have to make up points (except in reverse) on too many teams.
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4 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Dunno, this month and next have tough schedules
If they don't dawdle with a Bo trade they'll help us sink
They'd have to sink harder than some pretty bad teams though.
I used to actively cheer for the teams I disliked to finish just outside the playoffs or be bounced in round 1. This is probably some kind of karma for me lol.
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7 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Canucks legend Loui Eriksson
My hope for a top 5 pick is alive
Keeping the faith eh? I'm expecting to pick around 10-13 sadly.
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1 minute ago, You Mad Bro? said:
Everyone still alive?
We have a lot of arguing to catch up on!
You’re all completely wrong about everything… always!
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[GDT] Wednesday January 18 2023 - Vancouver Canucks vs Tampa Bay Lightning - 7pm PT/10pm ET - Vancouver
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Someone needs to spark the team immediately