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Not sure if this has been posted yet but lol:
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Expecting Bo to have a strong game Tuesday as he dominates the Carolina Hurricanes in his career games against them.
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6 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
Makar's pretty damn good too. Personally I think we got the best player in the draft, including Hischier.
We got Hughes which is basically the same kind of defenseman as Makar. I can already see a fast and exciting team to watch the next decade.
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Leafs and Oilers can keep talk about how great Matthews and McDavid are. Keep in mind that they tanked and luck out with the #1 pick in their draft year and pick a guy that everyone knows would go #1. Meanwhile the Canucks have to first get screwed over by the lottery system dropping from #2 - #5 in a so-called "weak draft" and able to steal this kid with the #5 pick because of our amazing scouting staffs. Wonder if New Jersey, Philadelphia or Colorado would be kicking themselves for not have drafted EP (excluded Dallas because I think Heiskanen fits their need perfectly and it is the only other player that I see would rival EP for best player in the 2017 draft).
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Chaput just got sent down to Laval. Burrows will coach Chaput
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If he didn't had the surgery and get a full summer training he probably could of make the opening night roster. But AHL time won't hurt his development and I can see him being a very good defenseman for the next 15 years.
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Just now, messier's_elbow said:
EP is already our best player. That’s both sad and encouraging at the same time. If he gets any kind of support and can stay healthy, the Calder is his to lose.
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6 hours ago, canucklehead44 said:
In Toronto Leafs fans give me the hardest time about Olli Juolevi. This draft in particular we were picking from the OHL - Tkachuk, Sergachev, Chychrun the other potential picks. Plus who have Keller coming off of an outstanding rookie year. McAvoy adds salt to the wound.
That said, is it justified? Major Canucks Fan broke down his game and he does a lot of little things right. Identifying this over the flashiness, big hits, and points is what separates real scouts from fans.
But on the topic of points, his season/playoffs in Finland were pretty good. He still played pro, but going to Europe while other guys jumped to the NHL made him drop off the radar a bit.
In total he had a .53 PPG. Here are a few other dmen in their +2 draft eligible year with a few other draft eligible years thrown in:
Lindell - .12 PPG / .28 PPG NHL Career (27 points last season)
Vatanen - .55 PPG / .46 PPG NHL Career (28 points last season .34 - 0.50PPG )
Lydman - .29 PPG / .28 PPG career NHL
Pitkanen (+1 year) - .57 PPG / .53 PPG Career NHL
Niinimaa - .40PPG / .43 PPG career NHL
Timonen (+3) - .50 PPG / .515 PPG Career NHL
Salo (+3) - .44 PPG / .39 PPG Career NHLA couple things to note:
1. There are way less Finnish players than I expected and that is looking to change. In 2017 there were 6 Finns selected in the first round. In 2016 there were four, with three in the top six.
2. In the past Finnish defenseman seemed to get overlooked, with studs like Niinimaa, Timonen and Salo having long, solid careers despite being drafted in rounds that no longer exist.
3. Another easy comparable is Olli Maata who played on the same team in the OHL. He had .52 PPG vs Juolevi who had .73 PPG. Maata has averaged .31 PPG in the NHL.
4. The Finnish league is not an easy place to rack up points, and the PPG numbers are quite comparable in +2 and +3 years to the NHL.
So lets first look at Maata. Juolevi had 40% higher production in the OHL - if that translates to the NHL he will average .44 PPG or 36 points/ 82 games.
Next I am going to look at Finnish numbers. I am going to use Lindell's +3 year as he skews the stats, and I'd rather go conservative (.61 ppg).
AVG PPG Finland = .48
AVG PPG NHL = .42
= -12.5%
.53 PPG - 12.5% = .46 PPG.
So when we distill it down based on his performance to date, Juolevi is trending to be a 38 point per year defenseman, which is actually in line with what Sergachev and McAvoy did last year. Now they are young and should improve, but that doesn't see to always be the case with defenseman as we know with Hutton & Stecher. Maata for example has played four full seasons and his rookie campaign was his best.I will take a 38 point Juolevi over at 45-50 point Sergachev. Olli understands the game very well and plays really well defensively. Meanwhile, Sergachev is a high risk player who will rack up a lot of points but will also make many plays that will have the coach screaming from the bench. McAvoy looks to be the best D out of the 3 you mention but it is still too early in all their careers to put it into any conclusion. McAvoy defnitely exceeded the expectation of many scouts for that draft. Players are human, and human chance adn develops differently over time. It is easy to use hind-sight and said who we should of picked in stead. Just like atleast 15 other teams wish they have picked Boeser in the 2015 draft and atleast 3 other teams wish they drafted Pettersson in 2017. I am happy with the Juolevi pick and I will continue to support him for his career. Once a player gets drafted by the organization, whether we like the pick or not, as fans we should stand behind and support the player. The last thing fans should do is to run a player out of town. Once that happens, you truly lose the draft.
Also worthy of note is that Juolevi has a much higher points per game in the Finnish league than John Klingberg at the same age.
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7 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:Ben Kuzma: Delorme delivered first hard sell to get Pettersson on Canucks' draft radar
Former Canucks winger turned scout was 'a loud voice' in support of landing elite Swede Elias Pettersson.
Ron Delorme was intimidating on the ice and then became persuasive off it.
The former Vancouver Canucks’ winger turned chief amateur scout was sold on Elias Pettersson early in the 2016-17 season. And despite a 2017 draft class stocked with elite centres — a half dozen were selected fifth through 11th after Nico Hischier and Nolan Patrick went first and second respectively — Delorme was as confident about selecting Pettersson fifth overall as winning any of his 53 career NHL bouts.
He believed Pettersson would thrive at wing or centre in Europe and eventually do the same in the NHL. And that was well before Pettersson became the Swedish Hockey League’s most valuable player in the regular season and playoffs last season.
“Ronnie saw him early and was a loud voice for him right from the start — even before any of us had seen him,” recalled Canucks general manager Jim Benning. “He was in my office and said ‘we’ve really got to watch this guy.’ He loved his skill and hockey sense.
“We saw Elias anywhere from 70 to 90 times in his draft year because he was a bit of a late bloomer. In Sweden, they identify top kids when they’re 12 or 13 and when he was 14 and 15, he wasn’t one of those. He came more into his own at 17 when he had a growth spurt.”
Pettersson, 19, made his NHL pre-season debut Tuesday — along with high-scoring countryman Jonathan Dahlen — and was aligned with Sven Baertschi and Nikolay Goldobin against the Edmonton Oilers.
It was first real transition step to smaller ice and big expectations after Pettersson dominated the SHL last season with 56 points (24-32) in 44 games. He then added 19 points (10-13) in 13 post-season games to lead Vaxjo HC Lakers to the league title. Pettersson played just nine games at centre last season, but Dahlen doesn’t expect his best friend to back down from the latest challenge.
“I’ve seen him handle every step he’s taken very well,” said Dahlen. “He’ll do so again.”
Elias Pettersson has handled every step in his remarkable journey.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS
It’s why the hype meter is going crazy and why Pettersson should savour every step. Right now, he can walk the city streets in anonymity. That’s going to change.
“I can only control what I do in the moment and not think what’s ahead of me,” the 6-foot-2, 175 pound Pettersson said before facing the Oilers. “It’s getting better every day. The speed here is quicker, the ice is smaller, there’s more physical play and you have less time with the puck.”
That’s just part of the battle. In the Pacific Division stocked with big centres who excel in faceoffs, Pettersson may need another centre on his line to take the pressure off — if he starts the season in the middle.
“I’m working on it and it’s not a big deal,” shrugged Pettersson.
That has become his early calling card. He’s not a quote machine and prefers to let his play do the talking. But it’s fair to wonder if he can thrive offensively and not be a defensive liability.
“You’ve got to be a little bit quicker,” said Canucks coach Travis Green. “I find in Europe, you’re a little more passive in keeping them (opposition) on the outside because the ice is so big. Smart players adapt. It’s going to be an adjustment for him (at centre), but it’s best to do it now than in three weeks.”
There’s seldom a sure thing in any draft, but the Canucks were so high on Pettersson that they passed on centres Cody Glass (No. 6, Vegas), Casey Mittelstadt (No. 8, Buffalo), Michael Rasmussen (No. 9, Detroit) and Gabriel Valardi (No. 11, Los Angeles).
“If he was there at No. 5, we were going to draft him,” said Benning. “We knew he has a special skill set and felt with the wingers we had in our system, a playmaker was a need. He had the vision and with his release from the half wall — he could really rip it — it was the (draft) separation.”
Still, Benning pondered a swap of first-round picks with Buffalo (eighth overall) and Vegas to add an additional later pick. The Golden Knights liked Glass, but weren’t sure what the Canucks were going to do. And with the New York Rangers getting the seventh selection, picking eighth didn’t ensure Benning would land Pettersson. Either did the sixth pick, because Vegas could have had a change of heart.
“I didn’t want to risk not getting Elias and didn’t want to draft too far down — that’s where you get in trouble,” recalled Benning. “My philosophy was you just take him.”
Huh, so Ron Delorme isn't totally useless after all. If he keeps churning out gems like EP, by all means keep the man haha.
Canucks having some real good group of amateur scouts who obviously have a keen eye for talent.
Thomas Gradin vouched for Petrus Palmu, Ted Hampson found Brock Boeser, Judd Brackett discovered Adam Gaudette, and Delorme nabbed us Pettersson.
I met Ron Delorme at the Young Stars Classic a couple weeks ago. I think he was slightly surprised that a fan recognizes him. I just went up and chat with him and he is such a nice guy. He spent quite a few minutes chatting up with me about hockey in general and he also mentions how excited he was for Pettersson. Very genuine kind man and he definitely doesn’t deserve some of the labels CDC gives him.
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This kid is someone special. I can see him resetting Canucks scoring records throughout his career. In about 12-15 years, the Canucks franchise leader in points will be Elias Pettersson follow by Henrik and Daniel Sedin.
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I also think EP in his prime would be at his best playing C. However, short term I see him on the wing to start his career and he needs to work on his face offs. I was at both prospect games, and he hardly won any face offs in both games.
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3 minutes ago, cory40 said:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off to Penticton tomorrow morning.
Same here! I can’t wait to see EP play live!
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18 hours ago, wildcam said:
I agree the #14 jersey should not be retired..There should only be Bure #10, Linden #16, Smyl #12 and wayne Maki #11 that was worn by Messier for short time...Naslund #19..
Let the next super star wear #14 jersey..Better decide soon as fans will want to start buying this Pettersson jersey.. Looks Good!!!!!
Pettersson
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I want Pettersson to wear #40 instead of #14. Traditionally, #14 are often wear by wingers. I see EP as a center in his prime and i think EP40 looks good on him.
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https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-players-that-could-be-named-captain/c-299877590
Bo is among 1 of the 9 players that could be named captain in this article. I personally think it won't hurt the team to go a year without captain (3-4 Alternate Captains made up of Bo, Sutter, Edler and Del Zotto) and then after this year, Bo is name as the captain and Boeser gets an A as well.
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9 hours ago, Phat Fingers said:
If QH can develop a shot to compliment his toolbox then watch out.
His shot looks rushed IMO when it comes after some moves. He lets go a riser and off his back foot.
He needs a solid point shot, both a better wrister and slapper. IMO. Hopefully this year with some strength development and tons of reps. Take the Kesler school of shot improvement.
Spending time with EP40 and Boeser won’t hurt in the future either.
In the future 3 on 3 OT, we can have EP+Brock+Quinn.
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Well I just checked the WJC schedule, it looks like Team USA will play all of its round robin games at Victoria. I will try and go to all 4 games if possible!
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Burrows is now part of the Habs organization. Laval Rockets, Habs AHL affiliate team assistant coach.
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20 minutes ago, Alflives said:
There will soon be six teams wondering how they could be so stupid to pass over Hughes. He will, by far, be the most impactful playing in his draft.
At most, 5. I don't think Buffalo will never regret drafting Dahlin. Though I do like Hughes chances to have bigger successes at the NHL level ahead of any of the 5 guys drafted from 2-6.
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42 minutes ago, Analyst82 said:
Should just call Toronto or Chicago and get advise on how to get rid of the contract without buying it out.
Eriksson could either “fail his physical” or “allergic to hockey equipment.”
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I will definitely be there live in person!
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Just now, Rob_Zepp said:
I LIKE THIS PICK.
I think this kid stacks up to all those goalies taken in the third round. He was ranked quite highly. VERY good pick. Wow. Nice! I am nearly as excited about this pick for Vancouver as I was for Hughes. He really could rise nicely through the system.
Agree, you can never just assume the goalie prospects to just properly develops and becomes the number 1 goalie you expect. Even if everything pans out and is on schedule, we will be facing with a goalie controversy with Demko and Dipietro both eyeing as starters. In that case, we will have to trade away one of them and we have to have the next guy ready to step in. It is a good pick either way, whether our current goalies pan out or not.
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This kid could be another steal of a pick in the 7th round.
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7th round 192nd overall selection
Goaltender
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/351272/matthew-thiessen
PLAYER FACTS-
Date of Birth
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Height6'2" / 188 cm
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Weight190 lbs / 86 kg
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NHL DraftProspect eligible for the 2018 NHL Entry Draft
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RankingsRanked #119 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
PLAYER STATISTICSS TEAM LEAGUE GP GAA SVS% POST GP GAA SVS% 2014-15 
Pembina Valley Hawks Bantam AAA
WBAAA 16 3.25 .857 | 2015-16 Pembina Valley Hawks Midget AAA
MMHL 20 5.07 .884 | 2016-17 Rink Hockey Academy Prep
CSSHL 19 2.88 .919 | Playoffs 2 2.50 .919 Steinbach Pistons
MJHL 1 3.08 .900 | Playoffs 0 - - 2017-18 Steinbach Pistons
MJHL 34 2.06 .923 | Playoffs 14 1.60 .943 2019-20 
Univ. of Maine
NCAA - - - | TOURNAMENT STATISTICSS TEAM LEAGUE GP GAA SVS% POST GP GAA SVS% 2015-16 Team Manitoba
WCCC-16 5 2.32 .919 | 2017-18 Steinbach Pistons
Anavet Cup 6 2.47 .904 | Steinbach Pistons
RBC Cup 2 3.01 .896 | -
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Just now, Odd. said:
Fox is a UFA next year so there is a chance he could bolt if he decides to not sign. I think Fox dictates which side really wins this trade.
If only Fox signs with us after he turns UFA...
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Quinn Hughes | #43 | D
in Current Roster
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To be fair 2011 Seguin was a rookie and nowhere near as dominant as the current Seguin and Julien limited his ice time so I don’t think it would of made any difference with or without him in that line up.
There is a 3rd overall pick that year on the Bruins roster - Nathan Horton. However, you can also argue that he is not Toews level in terms of his play. He was just very clutch and shows up in the big games in 2011. Horton’s production in the regular season is a fringe 1st line/elite 2nd line production. It sort of is like Mikael Samuelson (a healthy Samuelson) would provide for the Canucks.
The Bruins key to the Stanley Cup was Bergeron (2nd round pick), Krejci (2nd round pick), Chara (3rd round pick) and Tim Thomas (9th round pick). Their supporting cast is very good and the overall team was playing the same style of Big Bad Bruins style.
To me they should be a good example of a team doesn’t need top 3 pick talent to win the cup (their 2nd and 3rd overall picks are not playing at other 2nd or 3rd overall pick level).
It’s like saying this future Canucks core wins a Stanley Cup (lets just say pretend), and we we don’t win any draft lotteries the next year or two, the core will be led by EP (5th overall), Brock (23rd overall), Horvat (9th overall), Hughes (7th overall), OJ (5th overall), 2019 1st rounder (4th-15th overall) and Demko (2nd round pick). If Gudbranson is still on the team then, the Canucks would officially still have a top 3 pick in the line up cuz Gudbranson is a 3rd overall pick. In reality (and to no disrespect to Gudbranson and his game), Gudbranson’s play with the team could be replaced by another big physical D man, and is not as crucial as the elusive term of a “top 3 pick.”