KyGuy123
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I was listening to the post game on the way home and they mentioned “can you imagine this PP in 2 years”
Very exciting times when they build even more chemistry with the new core. We will dominate with more strength and chemistry built.
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I think we have to think long term with Juolevi and he has the potential to be an ace in the hole so to speak. Just wait until he makes the big club and plays some games with our great young talent.
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I think the proof that he is actually learning is in who he let go more than who he acquired. From Gudbranson the end of last year to letting MDZ, Pouliot, Hutton and Granlund walk. Those guys were weak links and I’m sure Sutter would be gone if healthy as well even though he is playing fantastic right now.
also drafting high skill and fallers in the draft shows he is seeing the game transition to what it is now and even if Podkolzin doesn’t pan out he was easily the best player available and hard to blame. -
Best moment in a game I can remember was game 7 vs flames with Jovo in the box and Naslund taking it end to end where Matt Cook stuffed home the rebound with 2 seconds left to send it to Overtime.
Unfortunately we lost in OT but that moment was one I’ll always remember as a fan.
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1 hour ago, Chris12345 said:
Wow I didn't know he was 6'5". That's awesome.
Although he's a skinny bugger for that height I'll take it!
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That Provorov for Horvat deal you take and run to the airport. No brainer there.
Patrick could fill those shoes sooner rather than later and the 11th overall could also provide a replacement or another piece to rebuild the D.
Provorov is worth more than Horvat by the way.
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2 hours ago, Seannnp said:
Maybe Boeser?
We have almost nothing on the wings and almost nothing coming up through the pipeline and you would consider trading Boeser???? Boeser is just as untouchable as Hughes or Horvat.
Hutton, Sutter, Goldobin, Virtanen (next year), Leivo, Granlund, Beagle, Motte are all guys I would move off of. Only problem is other than Hutton and Sutter packaged with something like a 2nd rounder will not get us an additional 1st.
I could see Sutter for Edmontons 2nd. Then package Hutton and the 2nd for Montreal's 15th OA. We could grab Sieder or someone that has fallen out of the top 10 there. Benning is going to need to get creative.
Could also do Virtanen, Sutter (25%), for 8OA and Lucic. Then send out Lucic (50%) retained, Hutton, 2nd rounder, for Montreals 15th. We now have 8th, 10th, 15th. Package 8th and the 15th for Colorado's 4th. Grab Byram and Caufield/Newhook/Boldy/Krebs.
At what point did you wake up from this dream? You’ve predicted that Byram will be there at 4th, unlikely. You think that Edmonton who is in cap hell is going to take on Sutter for no salary returned in the deal and give us a second rounder? You also feel we can get the 15th overall pick for Hutton and a second round pick? Lol!!! Then the Lucic scenario is hilarious in thinking you can trade for him and then flip him for 50% retained. You just retained on Sutter in the deal! How many retention spots do you think they have?
Sorry to be a downer but if any of these played out (even one) I’d consider Jim Benning a top 3 GM and the new Yzerman.
I’d personally love for everything you just listed to happen and have Loui Eriksson wake up one day and decide he feels like retiring from Hockey and become a monk somewhere in Alaska!!!
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I’d love to see us trade for Subban and solidify that #1 RHS Dman and sign Lee for a net front presence and winger for The top line! We should focus on some size for the wings and I’d avoid Ferlund at all costs. Capitalize on cap strapped teams and buy low while offering salary relief for them.
Highly unlikely but if Erik Karlsson and his wife like Vancouver you have to make it happen and disregard Subban but I see that being about a 3% chance of happening.
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Zegras or Broberg for me.
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2 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said:
Pretty interesting hearing that Podkolzin could drop to us. Many rankings have him as top 3 pick but obviously comes with concerns.
High risk but high reward kinds pick. Would people feel ok with taking him if he fell?
Definitely worth picking up the phone and seeing what teams like Washington ( heavy Russian influence ) would be willing to give up that probably have no chance of getting him. If you have a trade target like Nashville and Subban see if they are high on him ( top 5 ) and use that as a trade chip and play it off like we gave them a top 5 pick in the draft.
Buy low sell high kind of thing.
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Broberg is definitely interesting and would compliment our team and the way we want to play. I’m ok with that pick after seeing him this tournament. With a backend of Hughes, Broberg and Juolevi we would definitely be able to get the puck up ice quickly and kill the forecheck for the other team.
Im team Broberg for this draft as of now and hope Boldy falls to give our management the options of forward or D.
One of those two and I’ll be over the moon.
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1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
I would only trade Jake if we picked up Brett Connolly as a Free Agent.
Our team is full of third line and can move up in a pinch tweeners and Brett Connolly will just add to that. We have enough bottom six players and not enough bonafide top six players. If we are dipping into free agency we need these big ticket play drivers for our first and second line and a RHS power play Qb on D. If Pearson and Baertschi don’t show up or are injured like the latter always seems to be we are in serious trouble. I am sick of this team not generating any offence and constantly picking up third and fourth line players.
Its time this management made a splash for a PK or Panarin or both even and truly put a stamp on the team and put asses back in the seats. I have a feeling the draft is going to be exciting this year and our ownership will want to put on a show. Signing or trading for players in the age category 27/28/29 will not ruin this rebuild and you’ll be able to recycle them when their contracts are up just like Chicago did while remaining competitive.
People are up in arms when trading picks and prospects like they got nothing in return but if you go after the superstars of the league they are major assets because they can always be flipped for a return similar or better depending how much salary you would be willing to retain.
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26 minutes ago, TheJudge said:
In each series there has been an aspect where size dominated and won. StLouis has dmen. Carolina jettisoned small players for large. Dallas has a few bid D and big forwards. Sanjose has more bigger forwards than Avalanche forwards, the large Colorado forwards to well the small, not so much.
The larger team has won the cup over 90% of the time since 1968, probably more than that only the one Detroit team was smaller in the last 25 years.
The team needs more skill and cannot afford to waste time and money right now until they get those skill guys, and those come through the draft. I suppose there are psoters that would like to see the Canucks give up 3 or 4 1rst round picks to get Nylander and Marner. While these are the types of skill the team needs, this team is already too small, way to many under the league average. Thats great for the regular season but not what being played right now
Chicago was a pretty small team when they won. Pittsburgh as well
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To everyone responding through the draft I agree and understand but we will be adding players through free agency and trade to compliment those prospects regardless.
I agree the draft is 100% the best way to build our core but the topic more less is about price and term on free agents or assets and better fit ( targeted ) and on friendly deals.
My example is Subban for 9 million for assets for 3 more years or Karlsson for 11.5/12 million for 7 or 8 years for free.
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5 hours ago, Phil_314 said:
Either works, as long as the asset acquired isn't too expensive, fits the team's competitive age timing and fills positional needs (skilled grit in the top-6 wing, right-side D).
Not exactly rocket science.It is according to our fan base though because when they go out and trade a second for Baertschi or picks and prospects for Gudbranson everyone is up in arms!
When we dip into free agency and sign the big ticket that year ( Eriksson ) everyone screams at management. Last year I loved the Roussel contract but found the beagle contract redundant with Sutter here.
My whole point of the topic was do we want to sign guys to high prices and longer term deals without giving up assets or do we want to trade the assets and get guys on better contracts ( Tyler Johnson, JT Miller, William Nylander etc )
I see the top guys all commanding 8.5/11.5 million this year with the cap inflation. You could get guys that signed their deals via trade before the cap went up and they now seem like great deals compared to future free agent crops.
Personally I hope we trade for PK Subban and try to get a forward from Tampa via trade (utilize cap space and buy cheap or get an asset with the player like Ehrhoff)
then trade players at the deadline like Tanev, Sutter, Hutton etc to get those assets back or at least some of them.
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1 minute ago, aGENT said:
Except that what Nashville needs in return is legit top 6 forwards. Something we also lack unless you think Baer gets the deal done (I do not)?
I think they need cap space and they could go out and acquire through free agency. Matt Duchene recently built a home in Nashville and is virtually a slam dunk if they can free up the cap space while retaining picks and prospects. Players like Juolevi and picks are gold to a team like Nashville because they could pan out at a cost effective option or be used at the trade deadline to acquire other players.
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Would you rather us dip into free agency and spend more cap and term or would you rather want us spending assets like picks and prospects to retain players on better salary and term? Having great players on ELC’s is such a huge asset to have in the salary cap era and if can be utilized properly by management we could become a very competitive team that can compete for the playoffs as early as next year.
This year proves more then anything that there is no guarantee once in the playoffs and once you get in you have an opportunity to play for Lord Stanley no matter where you place in the standings.
So what would you rather do in order to improve our Team next year?
Free agency or Trade?
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I can see both P.K and Turris coming over via trade as we are looking for both types of players and I can see Nashville giving us a better deal if we take both. If we can unload Sutter and replace him with Turris it’s almost a wash and P.K would be that number 1 RHS Dman we have been searching for in what seems like an eternity. If we could trade Hutton and bring back Tryamkin I feel our defence could look drastically different in 2 years time and be one of the better ones in the league for puck moving ability.
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I feel this is the year we try for some size on the wings and hope Boldy falls on our laps. Not to sure about Podkolzin or Broberg even though they have that boom or bust feeling to them. I really like Caufield but the size does make it less attractive of a pick due to our lack of it already. Datch/Cozens/Boldy if any of them are there and if not I say we go for the RHS Dman in Söderström from Sweden. Being so tight this year from 4-12 it’s the year I feel we need to draft by position because short of a faller there is no consensus BPA.
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Why would we need to take on Marleau for the 10th overall pick for Nylander? I’m pretty sure they would jump all over the cap space and cost controlled young asset for the next 5 years without taking on 6.2 million for 2 more years in Marleau?
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[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Nashville Predators | Nov. 21, 2019
in Canucks Talk
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I’m happy we have gone 2-0 vs a Stanley cup favourite this year.... Never an easy task as Garett would put it