KyGuy123
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Rants would be unbelievable and someone you could eventually use as a trade chip. Familiar with OEL and Garland too.
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Eichel for Petey 1 for 1? There is our RHS Center we are missing as well.
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I just don’t understand why Petey and Hughes would not have these done already so we know exactly how much we have to spend for FA to provide them with the best team possible? I say Petey gets done today by the Canucks. 3 years $7.5
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I’m on board with this.
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This is why the Pearson deal makes me upset. Right now the difference between worried and confident. I’d try and ship him out NMC or not this second.
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To buy UFA years and come in just under $5 million is a great deal. Shows
retaining rights or having them gets you an extra year at a decreased value.
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53 minutes ago, CJ44 said:
I just don't think the Canucks are in a position to get getting rid of two of their highest rated prospects....makes no sense when we've spent the last 7 years rebuilding and growing our prospect pool. We aren't in a win now situation, so this wouldn't make any sense to do.
For the next three years we won’t have as much problems with contracts. The bridge deals for Hughes/Petey, Millers Contact at 5.5, Demko at 5, Garland getting a bridge likely, Bo and Boeser in the mid 5’s. After those are up we will have to be selling players instead of adding!
Believe it or not because of this move our window to compete is now and if we can add a Werenski type with Nate Schmidt being a main piece (5.9 million in cap too) we do it. -
7 hours ago, Sp3nny said:
Ok I haven't been able to reply all day, but I am going to provide the videos that I am basing my assessment on. This will be like a follow up to my prior post, so you guys can see for yourselves what I am talking about. You can make your own assessments as well and let us know, but here is my take.
I watched the Belarus vs Sweden game at the U18 this year to specifically watch for Swedish players (Lysell in particular, but also Rosen etc). This is where Klimovich first came on my radar, and one sequence of plays in particular, which you can find starting at 18 seconds of this video, which is all highlights from this year's U18's.
That first play had me going "who the hell is this stallion of a kid just ripping around the rink!?" This started me down the rabbit hole of researching him, which both excited but also deterred me somewhat, which I will go over. That video is the most recent play we have on him, and we can see nice top end speed, great hands, and both his wicked shot and nose for the net. One thing you will notice, is this guy has a very rinse and repeat style. Wind up with speed through the neutral zone, and shoot the puck on net. How far he can successfully survive maintaining that kind of play does concern me.
Skating:
Klimovich looks quite big, especially in his torso/thighs, similar to our former Virtanen. This gives him a very solid foundation to his skating, and you rarely see him muscled off the puck, while also providing him with adequate weight to throw his body around. We can also see that he doesn't have the nicest stride though, so his first few steps are a bit slow and lacking power/extension. If he can correct some of this technique through a power skating coach, we could see him get to a Virtanen like level, which combined with his shot would make him very deadly.
Shot:
Not much needs to be said here. This kid can flat out snipe. He likes to setup in the Ovi position, and he wants the puck badly, often calling for it and directing play to make himself an option for the pass. As great as his wrist shot is, I don't think he has the greatest power on his one-timer. The few instances where he has used it, the shot is fine, but doesn't "wow" me (see 55 second mark). More examples will be found in the following videos. Based on his wrist shot though, coupled with his size, that's likely not an accurate assessment, but its all we have to go off of at this point. While his shot is great, we see lots of goals/shots from sharp angles, which work at lower levels, but once the goalies start getting better, these angles are a lot more difficult to take advantage of. Also, all of his 6 goals were on the PP, and 5 of them came against other weaker teams in Latvia and Switzerland.
Hands:
We see him use the "between the legs" move in that first clip, but also a nice dangle at 1:01 and 2:20. He also makes a few nice handles while picking up speed through the neutral zone throughout. Just how good his hands are will be seen in the next video.
Playmaking/Vision:
This is where my concerns start to get raised. I know Belarus doesn't have the greatest team, so perhaps Klimovich feels he needs to carry the play himself. As mentioned in the shooting section, he is constantly calling for the puck, and once he gets it, as his skill and size dictate, he tries to do a lot on his own. Starting at the 1:16 mark, we see Klimovich on a 3-on-2, where the trailing #15 is wide open right in front. Instead of passing, Klimovich uses a backhand from a sharp angle.
All in all, we see a very skilled rushing player with a great shot. Certainly someone who looks skilled from an individual perspective, but also a player that is quite one-dimensional.
After watching that Belarus game, I went on YouTube and found whatever videos I could on him. While there isn't a lot, someone has actually provided a highlight video from him for the past few yrs. This is where we see just how skilled he is, but also how low-tier the Belarus leagues are, and also just how one-dimensional he is.
Here is the video from 3 years ago, where he would have been 15, but already 5'11 and 180lbs. This provides him with a distinct size advantage over his peers at the time.
As is very clear, this kid can go from end to end all game if he wants. We see how embedded the idea is that he can get by with his individual skills, as they have worked so well in his development.
Skating: We see how much he loved to wind up through the neutral zone. Right from the first clip (0:14) through to the end of the video, we see multiple end-to-end style rushes where he walks through opponents like pylons. Yes, it looks incredible, but watch the defenders and see how they play him as a bigger, faster, stronger, and more skilled opponent. Often times, they make it very easy on him, and he bends them to his will. The sequence at 0:28 in particular, we see him get through 4 defenders, who all half-heartedly lift their sticks at him, while providing no true danger to taking the puck away. This sequence also shows his shorter stride on acceleration, where he has lots of leg movement, but not enough extension to provide top end power to get him up to speed quickly.
Shot: We see his shot has been been weapon since he was young. Sharp angle shots are often scored (0:15), but we also see how accurate he can be, especially in stride cutting through the slot, where he scores a lot of his goals. The majority of the goals are scored in tight, where he dekes the goalie across the crease or direct on.
Hands: His hands at this age are excellent, where we see toe-drag (0:30), cut back button hook (0:50), backhand windmill (1:20), fake slapper (1:30), between-the-stick (1:45), and backhand toe-drag (2:20), which show he has an array of stickhandling capabilities. He also does a lot of stick work while picking up speed through the neutral zone, which allows him to be deceptive in where he will go.
Playmaking/Vision: We do see some examples of passing and vision at 1:02 with the cross-crease pass. As well, we see him with his head up finding a breaking out linemate at 1:58.
Here is the video from 2 years ago, which I will link, but I won't comment on much as I'm sure you are starting to get the picture with this guy. High end skill on an individual level, but not a ton outside of that.
Klimovich definitely loved the between the legs move on breakaways. This is consistent with all three videos. The assist at 2:45, 3:05, 3:16, and 3:48 do show that he has some level of vision and anticipation, which is good to see beyond his dangles.
I know this post is long, but I hope everyone can take a couple mins and actually watch the highlights. We have a supremely talented kid on our hands, one that if developed properly could be deadly for us down the road!
However, I hope this also shows why I don't think immediately jumping into the AHL or KHL is a great idea. All of Danila's success has come from his distinct playstyle, which we all know gets stifled as the competition level raises. I think the best thing for him would be the VHL at this point in Dynamo's system, where he doesn't have to learn a new culture of language, but can face a reasonably more difficult level of play, where he can either continue to dominate in the same way, but more likely, learn to make the adaptations he needs to remain successful. I also think the QMJHL would be a good option, as he would get a headstart on getting used to NA culture and language, while still facing a reasonably tougher league.
Sorry for the likely longest post on CDC ever, but this kid reminds me of my favorite player growing up in Ilya Kovalchuk. Not the most team friendly player, but an absolute weapon in his own right. I know not everyone loved Kovy, but he was incredibly talented in every way. Big sniper with great wheels, wicked hands, and a bit of an emotional nasty streak when needed. We can all dream lol.
PS. There is highlights from each of the past 3 years that you can watch, which I encourage. You can definitely see the refinement in some of his skills, and also how the competition gets better as well. I provided the 3 year old video as it was the most obvious to see his playstyle and skills, but also how low skilled the Belarus leagues are.
I absolutely loved the read and thank you for doing this. Funny thing is I watched all three videos yesterday and thought the exact same thing as you. He looks like Kovalchuck in play style and sounds like they have the same characteristics. The potential is definitely there and for us to draft a RW with our first pick in the draft he was clearly the Canucks BPA at the time. Exciting actually.
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Would be ironic if he plays in Russia with Leipsec. #worstcrewever
Turns out with the allegations they probably were.
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50 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:
We'd be missing Pod, though. Who would replace him?
He hasn’t even played a professional game in North America yet. I don’t have the answer to that but if he ends the season with 10 points I’m sure you will be singing a different tune. Zach Mackewin would be my answer for now.
Given equal minutes and opportunity Zach would have a better season than Podkolzin I’d be confident in saying. -
I see him coming in and us getting a piece in the Schmidt trade. That should fill out our RS.
if Hamonic comes back that’s even better as our whole RHD will be Right shots.
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1 hour ago, N4ZZY said:
So losing Schmidt and Podkolzin? Does that make us better?
For Werenski? 100% it makes us better. Would make our Defence middle of the league at least. With our new offence additions we would challenge Vegas for the Pacific.
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11 minutes ago, KirkSave said:
Quinn Hughes has already produced more points in a single season than Werenski and despite his age, sending them Schmidt, Podkolzin and either Juolevi/Rathbone is overpayment. Playing with a partner like Seth Jones allowed him to play to his strengths. If he stays in CLB, it will be interesting to see who plays with him and how his overall game fares (likely still produce feeding Laine one timers on the PP). I like the player but sending them 3 solid assests like you suggested is out of the question and hurts our team depth. You lost me at Podkolzin. This player is going to be a foundational piece to grow with our young core.
I don’t disagree but it looks like we are going all in right now. We need to capitalize on the bridge contracts EP and Hughes are about to sign. Miller is on a great contract and Garland seems to be as cheap as he will come also. Demko could even get a raise on his 5 million after his contract expires.
We need to go all in and start the prospect pool from scratch after this year or next.-
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1 hour ago, N4ZZY said:
If Schmidt is the centrepiece of a Werenski deal. What are the other moving parts? I’m scared to deal with their GM. He’s killing it this off-season.
Podkolzin would be one I imagine. Rathbone or Juolevi?
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1 hour ago, Crabcakes said:
Where do you see Pearson long term? I see him on the 3rd line and Podz in the top 6
Podkolzin is RW and Pearson LW. We will see.
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1 minute ago, CaptKirk888 said:
Is that over the past 5 years? He only had 7 goals last year
I’m pretty sure it was the year before he had 20+ goal season. Also was an anchor for Columbus with Seth Jones as a pairing. He has a ton of Value league wide and if Nate Schmidt was a center piece who already wants out you go hard for him.
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Just now, TmanVan said:
No injuries in the top 6 eh. No line shuffling...... Not even once? No moving up in the line up half way through the year after after playing solid? Ok then.
Then call him up after he’s been getting top minutes in the AHL. Before the trade I was all over Pod making the team due to cap reasons. Now I think he is best suited playing in all situations being the go to guy. Marinating a prospect has never been viewed as a bad thing. Especially one coming from another country where his coach would give him 4 mins a night sometimes.
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Just now, HomeBrew said:
Feels like you are being too literal. I'm talking about his impact on the ice. Not whether or not he gets time on Horvat's line. Just watch and see. Abby fans might want him there, but that ain't happening.
Impact is generally associated with ice time. I bet PK Subban would look great as a third pair Dman as well with PP time.
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Just now, KKnight said:
Subban is worse at Defense than Schmidt. I rather Schmidt. I'm hoping Florida is interested in Schmidt and we can potentially get Gudas and a pick. For Holtby, I'm hoping just to get a pick with limited retention.
Great call. At that retention and only one year left I’d do the deal though. If it works out try to resign him to a friendlier contract then Schmidt. PK loves playing in Canada and we could see a rise in play. Would kill two birds for us in my mind. You also aren’t strapped with Cap going forward.
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6 minutes ago, HomeBrew said:
He's too good for Abbotsford and won't spend a minute there. He will have a Hoglander type rookie year imo.
It won’t be possible as he will not be deployed with Bo Horvat all year getting second line minutes. He even saw some time on the PP where Podkolzin will not.
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Just now, N7Nucks said:
Benning said at the draft Podkolzin was NHL ready, 3rd liner too if I recall correctly. It'd be a waste to stick him in the A in my books. Guy is ready.
Isn’t he only 19 years old? Why would we not use him as a call up if he sets that league on fire instead? He can be the top guy on the team learning systems and English while getting all the ice time in the world.
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18 minutes ago, KirkSave said:
Sir. Columbus would make out like bandits if this was put forward by us to acquire ZW.
The leading goal scoring Dman in the league that’s 25 years old? No, no they wouldn’t we would probably get declined.
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1 minute ago, N7Nucks said:
Would be a gnarly 3rd line addition. Ritchie Dickinson Podkolzin? Oh boy does that sound good. But we start losing spots for other players.
Miller Pettersson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Hoglander
Ritchie Dickinson Podkolzin
Motte (FA/Sutter) MacEwen
Do we run a 4th line of Motter Big Mac/Sutter and Pod? And Garland on the 3rd line? I'd really like to see Pod with the 3rd line though. Guess it's a nice problem to have, but I wanna see Pod get some minutes. 4th line deployment will probably see him around 19/0 minutes a game, but 3rd line would see him closer to 14/15. He's young, but he has energy and drive to be a regular 3rd liner out the gate.
Podkolzin should be the main attraction for Abbotsford this year adjusting to NA ice. Top line and PP/PK situations. Guy was basically buried on his Russian team and needs to play a lot this year. Best for his development.
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1 minute ago, DeNiro said:
Fat boy won’t be able to keep up.
His fitness level makes Virtanens look good.
Probably why the Bruins are dumping him. That and he’s gonna want too much after his stats were inflated.Pat Maroon and his 3 cups in a row say Hi. Big guys that can play who drop the gloves and hit like a dump truck are worthy roster spots. If you can get him you welcome him with open arms.
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[Report] Canucks G Holtby To Be Bought Out
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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Only thing different he should have done is front load the contract and lighter on the tail. If his cap was 4.3 and actually got paid like 3.2 in the last year instead of 5.7 he would have been easier to unload for $500,000 retention.