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3 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:
Who makes you the arbiter of how Canucks supporters watch games?
It’s odd that you support the team but don’t support the teams’ ability to get the best draftee.
Do you want the Canucks to get the worst draft pick possible?
Everyone that is a fan of this team would like the best draft pick possible. However, the coaches and players of this team dont give a “mouses behind” for Bedard or a top 5 pick. They want to go out and win games. I’m happy when they lose and Im happy when they win. Lets just wait and see where the dust settles at the end.
everyone arguing about the best odds to draft at a certain position. The lottery could put
you at 4th even as the worst team in the league and best chances to draft 1st.
Im still confident we end up with 5-6 in the draft. We are not bad enough to draft top 3 with the skill we have upfront.
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6 hours ago, R3aL said:
Raty has never played in the SHL.
Hes a fin and his D+1 in Liiga was fantastic.
I stand corrected. Thought I had read he played his draft year in one of the swedish leagues.
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This is a wait and see deal to see where the dominos fall.
Lots of people complaining but thats likely due to their lack of knowledge concerning this trade. So here are some points I want to make.
1. Currently the 1st pick sits at 13th based on odds which is the best position we couldve gotten. Trading to a contender and we surely get a worse position.
2. This was the best package offered - management as in every case takes the best package so its likely a defenseman worth trading for was not offered.
3. We likely are NOT done yet with rumors regarding Garland, Boeser, Miller, Schenn, and Myers.
4. Beuavillier was to make salary work but is a good player, under 26, only 4m on the books with 1 yr left after this and likely gets traded at this deadline or next.
5. Bo was a rental. We werent getting Newhook, Byram, and players of that ilk - at least not without an extension in place.
6. Raty was a bonafide 1st rounder but had an underwhelming season in the SHL I believe which led to his stock dropping. Still has a high ceiling and a two-way 3rd line center floor but with top 6 potential.
7. Schenn and 1 of Boeser/Garland/Myers are almost certain to be moved for futures and prospects. I do not see Miller being moved with Horvat now gone.
8. Most importantly this improves our chances of improving our odds for 1st OA with the loss of Horvats production.
9. If Islanders protection works out, we could potentially have a top 5 pick next year as I see Islanders regressing if Horvat doesnt resign which I dont believe he will. He will surely test free agency.
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26 minutes ago, drdeath said:
To be fair, it's for 30 games of a 60 goal scoring center. I'd be a lot more scared about him not reaching free agency if he was going to a contender but he's gone to a bubble team.
The Canucks have never had a 60 goal scoring center.
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To Van
Wahlstrom
Dobson
2nd in 2023
2nd in 2024
To NYI
Horvat
Schenn
Who says no?
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4 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:
I disagree, I think Garland and Kuz are much better fits in a top 6 role and have better offensive skills + are younger. I think its fair to say Ilya is ahead of Podz, but that could change quite quickly if Podz takes the next step this season.
The best course or action would be to trade Garland and Miller hopefully getting a top 4 RD and 3C back + futures.
Ideally, I wonder if Miller (extended) + for Weegar, Bennet, 3rd or 4th rounder would be something doable. Fills our top pairing right side, 3c and we get an additional pick. I would not be trading Garland now or in the future.
Sign Evan Rodrigues
Trade Pearson, Dickinson for whatever closer to training camp.
Not sure if this works cap wise, just an idea.
Garland Petey Boeser
Kuzmenko Horvat Mikhayev
Hoglander Bennet Podkolzin
Rodrigues Lazar Lockwood
Hughes Weegar
OEL Myers
Rathbone Schenn
Demko
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25 minutes ago, DefCon1 said:
So would you say he can be as good as Pettersson?? He has been projected as a top 10 pick in many scouting reports and that is pretty impressive considering players like Jiricic, Nemec, Wright, Slaf, Minty etc. There is no home run consensus number 1 pick in this year's draft but I will say the top 10 are pretty close to each other. i don't see any big separation from the 1st overall to the 10th overall like I saw in previous draft years.
Shouldve mentioned not my write up lol.
I dont think he will be as good as Pettersson as i feel they are two different players. JL is more of a goal scorer whereas Petey is more of a playmaker with an ability to score 30-40 goals if that makes any sense.
i think this was a great pick. Hes 17 years old, played last season in the SHL against men and was quite productive - guessing his size wasnt much of an issue there. He’ll like grow to 6’1 or so and maybe 185-190lbs.
Some on here keep arguing about size but the game has evolved and high skilled players are dominating the league regardless of size, Petey is a great example of that, along with Debrincat. Anyone think Dach is hard to play against? We took BPA regardless of need which i will support every single time.
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Jonathan Lekkerimakki is a dynamic Swedish winger who took me longer than I would have liked to fully grasp him. Normally, I’m not a big fan of this type of player so I played it safe with him, even when he started producing in the SHL. In all transparency, I started to make up my mind on his case from my 15th viewing.
His best asset is without a shadow of a doubt the quality of his shooting and his scoring skills. Lekkerimakki has one of the best shots in the entire draft, if not just the best. What makes him so dangerous is the power and precision of his wrist shot, managing to beat goalkeepers from distance when there isn’t even a screen in front of them, every of his shots are dangerous. Nowadays, not only are goalkeepers extremely imposing in front of their net, they are also experts in dissecting the position of the different body segments of the shooters (position of the hands, shoulders, rotation of the trunk and hips, etc.) in order to anticipate where they will shoot the puck. Even near-perfect shots aren’t enough to beat them, to do that you have to mislead them or limit the amount of information they can take. Lekkerimakki encapsulates this last point wonderfully. The release on his shot is subliminal. It requires no momentum and he does not continue the motion of his shot after the puck leaves his stick. In fact, when the puck goes, Lekkerimakki’s stick blade position is still inside his skate base, giving goalies no time to react. He uses his stick flex a lot on his shots as well. Another aspect that makes the Swede so dangerous is the placement of his shots. Every shot he takes make goalies work. He will always opt for shots that will be difficult for them even if his primary intention is not to score. Being a right-hander, when he comes on the right flank, he will prioritize low shots, against the direction, aiming for the opposite leg of the goalkeeper to cause rebounds in the slot. The final noteworthy aspect of Lekkerimakki’s shot is his shot selection. Too often young players who have such a weapon tend to rely on it too much and when they rise through a higher caliber, they are no longer able to do as they please. For excellent shooters, this can be seen in attempts to shoot without a screen or from too far on the ice. Lekkerimakki is no victim of this, as he never rushes his shots, showing patience instead. He does not take low success percentage shots even if there is a chance in front of him. To top it all off, Lekkerimakki also has great scoring instincts, knowing how to get forgotten in front of the net net.
The second thing that jumps out when looking at the winger is his excellent skating and high speed. He has the speed to create separation from his pursuer and he is also very skilled as he can mystify his coverers with small changes of direction and shoulder movements. Lekkerimakki is also very agile and possesses remarkable escapability in small spaces, being able to turn on himself skillfully. To complement this skill, he also has excellent balance on his skates, maintaining a good posture even when pushed by an opponent when in motion and/or pivoting. In the use of his speed, Lekkerimakki demonstrates the same intelligence and the same maturity as with his shooting as he recognizes well the situations to let his talent speak, as well as the situations where it would be better to opt for a play with higher success rate. He is not a player who plays at one speed and always tries to beat opposing defensemen, he knows how to slow down the game to his advantage and how to involve his teammates in his attacks. The last thing to mention, and this might be the most important of all regarding his speed, is that Lekkerimakki plays at a high pace when it comes to his decision making. His brain seems to operate at the same speed as his feet and hands, and that’s a very desirable trait that translates wonderfully well to the NHL.
Which brings me to what I consider to be the most important aspect to me that ultimately sold me in Lekkerimakki’s case, which is: His intelligence. This is what differentiates Lekkerimakki from other players advocating the same style of play that I mentioned in the introduction not being a fan (Fabian Lysell, Joakim Kemell, Samu Tuomaala, etc.) These players are all guilty of the same faults on the rink ; they hold onto the puck far too long, makes a ton of turnovers, misuse their teammates (especially in the neutral zone), and have questionable shot selections. Lekkerimakki does not commit such sins on the rink. When carrying the puck, he is good at evaluating the information in front of him while keeping his head held high. He is not a player prone to turnovers.
Another aspect that makes mention of Lekkerimakki’s intelligence is his skills as a playmaker. Although he is not considered a ‘Playmaker’, he wants to be effective in this facet without fanfares. His passes are always precise and well timed. His passes always while playing at a good speed, which translates well to the NHL. He is also capable of passes on his backhand on occasion. On the power plays, he is not a predictable player by the threat of his shot, he incorporates his teammates very well in the collective attack and he is able to use his teammate inside the defensive box. He shows some signs of creativity where he uses his main assets (shooting and skating) to push back the opposing defenders and after giving a glimpse of a wrist shot, he hands the puck behind him to his teammate who comes in 2nd wave.
To top it all off, Lekkerimakki plays with an appreciable level of intensity, finishing some of his checks and not hesitating to get his nose dirty in the high-danger areas. Defensively, he is doing well, showing a good ability to cut passing lanes by extending his stick completely on the ice, which is easy for him given that he has a relatively low center of gravity.
It will be curious to see where Lekkerimakki will play next year since his club in Sweden, Djurgardens, have been relegated to the 2nd division in the Allsvenskan. Maybe the NHL team that selects him will be tempted to bring him to the AHL right away, which would be a good option, in my opinion.
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Eriksson
Beagle
Roussell
Virtanen
Edler
Sutter
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Garland
Dickinson
OEL
Players likely still to be traded
Holtby
Schmidt
OEL will be much better now that he has a competent team and players he can pass to. OEL will return to form no doubt in my mind.Once we move Schmidt and Holtby we free another 10m in cap space.
We need to find a 3c/4c and a top 4 dman and our roster is set.
Miller Pettersson Boeser
Garland Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Dickinson Podkolzin
Motte ??? Hymore
Hughes OEL
Rathbone ???
Juolevi Myers
Roster definitley looks improved in my opinion
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This is what I WANT happening this offseason
Trade Virtanen+ Lockwood for Domi
Trade Schmidt + 2nd Round pick + small add for Parayko
Extend Parayko 7.5m x 7 years (sign and trade)
Use our 9th OA to select Johnson/McTavish
Trade Braden Holtby
Buy-Out Beagle
Buy Out Roussel
Send Eriksson to the minors/retire
Resign Edler 3.0m/ 1 yr w/bonuses
Resign Hamonic 3.5/ 2 yrs
Sign Ryan Getzlaf 2-2.5m/ 1 yr w/bonuses
Domi Pettersson Boeser
Miller Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Getzlaf Podkolzin
Motte Dickonson Hymore
Hughes ParaykoRathbone Hamonic
Juolevi Edler
Demko
Who better to mentor Podkolzin and further develop Horvat than Getzlaf? In two years time Johnson/McTavish will be ready to take over 3c. -
Trades
To Van
Reinhart
To Buff
Schmidt
DiPietro
Lind
2nd Round Pick 2022
3rd Round Pick 2022 (MIN)
To Van
Jordan Greenway
3rd Round Pick 2022
To Min
9th OA 2021
Eriksson 25% Retained
Sign
Adam Larsson 4.75 x 4-5
Edler 3.25 x 1
Sutter 2.5 x 2
Hamonic 2 x 2
Buyout
Roussell
Virtanen
Expansion Draft
Myers
Greenway Pettersson Boeser
Reinhart Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Miller Podkolzin
Highmore Sutter Motte
Hughes Larsson
Edler Rathbone
Juolevi Hamonic
The Canucks are looking for a 3c. Why not move Miller to 3c and look for a top 6 forward - Reinhart fits the bill and we finally have a winger for Horvat. Buff gets a d partner for Dahlin, a potential goalie for the future, a top 9 prospect in Lind and 2 draft picks to begin what i hope is the last rebuild for them.
Greenway likely gets lost in the expansion draft if he stays in Minnesota. I love what Greenway brings to the table. We give up the 9th OA for a top 6 winger and lose the Eriksson contract. Win-Win for all involved??
I think Larsson would be the perfect d partner for Hughes and if we could get him for under 5, we absolutley need to explore this option. Im not 100% sold on Hamonic but not sure what other options are out there.
Normally Id try to clarify further but its 3am and i just cant be bothered to do so.
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Why not Trade
Miller, Schmidt, 1st in 2021, Woo
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Seth Jones, Boone Jenner
We get our 3c and 1d
Sign Nugent Hopkins 6m x 5
Resign Edler 3m x 1
Resign Hamonic 2m x 2
Myers to Seattle in ED
Roussell BUYOUT
Erkisson (Retire hopefully)
Podkolzin Pettersson Boeser
Nugent-Hopkins Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Jenner Motte
Highmore Beagle Lockwood
Hughes Jones
Edler Rathbone
Juolevi Hamonic
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On 10/22/2020 at 10:18 AM, Provost said:
$2.55 million is a low enough number to maybe make him tradeable.
If there is still an opportunity to use him to shed cap, I still do that.
I don’t think he is good enough for our top line and he isn’t a fit on the Horvat line which will have lots of defensive responsibilities.
We have other, cheaper options for the 3rd line.
Cheaper options for 3rd line? Less than 2.55m? Other than Gaudette, who?
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38 minutes ago, c00kies said:
4.3M? That seems a bit much, no?
2 year deal, exposure for Expansion.
Talbot got 3.6 and is half the goalie Holtby is on a good day.
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On 9/26/2020 at 10:04 AM, Moose Nuckle said:
That's not the point, the point is to have fun speculating and creating interesting trade scenarios.
Also trading Boeser and Eriksson for Bertuzzi is nothing like trading Eriksson and a 1st round pick to shed him.
Agreed. It’s actually much worse. Boeser is what most teams want thier 1st round picks to turn into.
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1 hour ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said:
you are crazy and should never include Demko in this trade as this is giving him away and not understanding that Vancouver has Arizona over a barrel and are negotiating against yourself.
Some have him included as a sweetener to dump Eriksson. I would love to keep both him and Markstrom but we can only protect 1. After the Schneider for a top 10 pick and how it has played out, Demko likely only fetches a 2nd rounder. I don’t think we can land OEL without a top prospect (at least I think he’s still a prospect) like Demko. Smaller pieces and bad contracts aren’t going to get it done. Have to give to get to improve this team and OEL vastly improves this team on the backend.
Arizona doesn’t have to trade OEL. I also haven’t read that he has demanded a trade. The only leverage we have is that Vancouver is one of two destinations he is willing to go to.
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OEL
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Sutter
Virtanen
Juolevi or Rathbone or Woo
Demko
Eriksson
Kuemper may be on the move and this could help push them to make the deal and she’s his salary. Demko can be thier future starter. Virtanen likely slots into thier 2nd line whilst Sutter takes over 3rd line Center duties which they seem to have a need for. Juolevi or Rathbone potentially gives them a top 4 damn. Eriksson gets them to the cap floor without having to pay real dollars which seems to the the real reason they are trying to move OEL out.
We could then sign Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev.
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Do we have the assets to acquire either to play along side Horvat?
Discuss
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On 9/8/2020 at 1:41 PM, BigTramFan said:
I think you have misread and perhaps thinking my detailed roster was for next season? But it's for 2021-22.
The roster for 2021-22 (which is TWO off seasons from now) should not include the following guys because their current contracts will have ended and IMO JB should not resign them: Edler, Stecher, Fantenberg, Benn, Sutter, Baertschi. There are some tough decisions to be made about Markstrom and Tanev.
I haven't "gutted" the defense, it is just that our D corps is aging out and it is time for a revamp. We need to get younger, bigger, tougher and better puck movers in our D corps. I think that Pesce, Cernak, Tryamkin would be excellent targets to get younger and tougher (these guys would replace Edler and Tanev). We also need the likes of Juolevi, Rathbone, Rafferty to come in and improve our zone clearances and offense from the back end.
Regarding Hoglander and Podkolzin. I expect both players to make the roster in 2021-22. I think it is clear that JB will need to rely on these younger guys coming through and replacing the Sutters of the team, so that our roster stays young and we can afford to pay for our core players like Pettersson and Hughes.
One final note...I am not actually suggesting that JB should target Hall this off season. I believe the money should be spent on improving our back end, as we have some excellent forward talent coming through our farm system that will provide the boost our offence that we need to become a contender.
What I hope the Canucks Roster will look like in 2022-2023 (The year we win the CUP)
Hoglander Pettersson Boeser
Miller Horvat Podkolzin
Toffoli Gaudette Anderson (CLB)
Motte Haula MacEwan
Lind
Hughes Pietrangelo
Juolevi Myers
Rathbone Rafferty
Woo
Demko
DiPietro
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44 minutes ago, 6string said:
howd you know. The 22/33 kush is ready for harvest
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14 minutes ago, qwijibo said:
There’s a whole lot of wishful thinking going on there
yes, yes there is
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Re-Sign Markstrom 4 years 22million prior to the draft
Re-Sign Virtanen to 1 year 2.5million show me contract
Re-Sign Leivo 3 year/6.6million
Trade Demko and additional piece for 1st round pick (20-30OA) at the draft
Mutual termination of Louis Eriksson's contract after bonus is paid.
Trade Stetcher, Goldobin, Baertschi, Sutter, to whoever for whatever preferably 1 for 1 role players and/or picks
Let Tanev walk (could trade Tanev for Barrie at the deadline)
Sign JG Pageau 4 years/16million
Sign Thomas Greiss 2 years/4.5 million
Sign Barrie 6 years/45million
Sign depth defenseman
I firmly believe that Hoglander lands a spot on the big club right out of training camp.
Miller Pettersson Virtanen
Pearson Horvat Boeser
Hoglander Pageau Gaudette
Roussel Beagle Leivo
Edler Barrie
Hughes Myers
Juolevi Rafferty/Trymakin
Benn
Faantenberg
Markstrom
Greiss
DiPietro
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19 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said:
Go after Manson or Lindholm for Stetcher, Gaudette and Woo with Ducks picking up salary for only this season as either player has 2 more years at 4.1 for Manson and 5.2 for Lindholm which will replace Tanev next year at an affordable price.
Canucks are going to let Stetcher walk anyways as there are younger cheaper options for 6th defenseman in Utica, Gaudette can be replaced by Madden, Focht or Costmar and Woo is an acceptable loss with Rathbone, Juelovi are making the jump in the next few years. Prospects are also supposed to be used as ammunition to get a better player and not just horded until they flame out or have a breakout season.
Oh man if we could get Lindholm in a Canucks Jersey..but barring an overpayment the Ducks never even consider it.
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On 2/8/2020 at 11:18 AM, Lazurus said:
Pretty sure Tryamkin will sign here in March. He was able to play a offensive and this year, a defensive role in Russia and performed in the top 3 in Vancouver in his rookie and only season, tops in fights, +/- and shutting down the opposition's best players. He never got pushed around. Adds "space" for the skill players and will be cheap. They should try to get him signed for Gudbranson money. He and Fantenberg make Tanev available for growing the future.
Stecher could be a throw in to move one of the elephant contracts, Stecher, retention and Eriksson for a bad contract in return and LTIR type deal although I am certain this loop hole will be closed next CBA.
Stech and Guad for Risto would be a good deal, defense wins championships.
except Stetcher is better at defense than Risto is lol
[Trade] Red Wings trade Filip Hronek, 2023 4th-round pick to Canucks for conditional 2023 1st-round pick (NYI), 2023 2nd-round pick
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I dont hate it but hard to like given what we gave up. Only thing I can assume is management knows something we dont - possibly other deals where we recoup these picks? Lets all hope