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8 hours ago, teepain said:
Where is foundational player Sutter at?
He took his ball and went home
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On 7/1/2019 at 12:07 PM, Me_ said:
MILLER - PETTERSSON - BOESER
PEARSON - HORVAT - VIRTANEN
BÄRTSCHI - SUTTER - ERIKSSON
GAUDETTE - BEAGLE - GRAOVAC
Roussel (IR)
HUGHES - MYERS
EDLER - TANEV
BENN - STETCHER
Woo/Juolevi
MARKSTROM
DEMKO
Baertschi Petterson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Miller
Virtanen Gaudette Eriksson
Roussel Beagle Motte
Edler Myers
Hughes Tanev
Benn Stetcher
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If Trouba signs the rumoured 8 years deal between 7-8m per than Myers ain’t getting more than 6-6.5
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Mike Hoffman to Van
Chris Tanev and 4th to Fla
Both 1 year left. Both fill a need for each team where Florida saves a little in cap space and gets a Right hand defensive defence man and we get a LW capable of 30 goals to play with Pettersson and Boeser. If we do sign Myers, it allows Myers and Stetcher to play in the top 4 right side.
Hoffman Pettersson Boeser
Miller Horvat Pearson
Edler Stetcher
Hughes Myers
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26 minutes ago, oldnews said:
that's a strange claim.
you believe the team will compete for a playoff spot with this blueline:
Edler - Tanev
Hughes - Schenn
Hutton - Stecher
Teves
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Ok "make the right move" - what is your "right move" for that blueline?
Well by the end of the year we were only 9 points out of a playoff spot and were top 5 I believe in man games lost to injury. Add to this that we lost over 30 1 goal games, also top 5 most in the league. If we can remain healthy, and squeeze out a few more points in those close games, I like our chances with or without Myers. Given that we've improved our top 6 with the addition of Miller, got rid of Pouliot (addition by subtraction), Hughes, Pettersson, Stetcher, Horvat, and Boeser have another year of development, I think we have a pretty decent shot.
Sprinkle in a full year of Markstrom (if he continues to play like the 2nd half of last season) and we're a playoff team.
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On 6/25/2019 at 8:27 PM, oldnews said:
It's interesting that Friedman elects to say there are no teams with the "want or will". And he qualifies it with an "I just don't know"....
If he'd said there's only one team in position to make this signing and serious, that would be one thing - but he does a little troll thing suggesting that there aren't any other teams that would have the want either - while just not knowing.
I find that borderline absurd - is he honestly tying to suggest that a Leafs team with a cap dump material Zaitsev and nothing else on their right side would not "want" Myers, even if they had the cap flexibility to fill a need of theirs - and in a deflated market with few serious suitors? Hmmm. That no other teams would want Myers if they were in a position to pursue him? Well done if his point is to insult the player. Poor Canucks fans - they only get the players that no one else wants - and of course, pay way too much for them, right. Hmmm. I'm just not sure this is Elliot's finest moment.
Almost makes me hope this deal happens and that Myers crushes it here. Like I've said, he's not necessarily my first choice, but a large part of my hesitancy is due to the speculated terms - I should know better by now than place any signficance in the noise - and wait until we see what actually happens.
Anyhow - I guess the Canucks can send him a thank you note for undermining Myers' negotiating position - at least publiclly. The reactionary element can send him a thank you as well, for helping substantiate their fears around a potential signing where Benning has leverage but doesn't use it, of course.. And Myers can send him a fk you for suggesting that no one else wants him.
Of course Myers' agent would know this - if it's in fact true.
Maybe there's an undercurrent here - of bitterness/envy - as his imploding Leafs are in no position to compete for anyone - want or not.
IF that is in fact the case, than the Myers camp has no leverage. There are no other teams to drive up the price.
He is a legitimate top 4 dman and plays the right side, so at the very least he checks those two boxes for us. I am warming up to the idea of signing Myers - just not at the terms being reported.
I would hope that Benning digs his feet in and offers a max 4 years 30 million dollar contract, maybe 5 year 36 million if there are other teams involved. I would be okay with a cap hit of up to 7.5 but term would have to be 5 years or less (takes him up to the age of 34) and hes off the books by the time Podk and Hoglander come off their ELC's.
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3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
we did. It was still expensive but we got quality back. It was painfully clear that Petey and Brocks line needed a player like this, and we really had no one to take that role on our roster. Miller-Petey-Brock is a legit NHL top line that teams will have a hard time stopping.
I think Miller will play on a line with Horvat and Pearson.
Baertschi Pettersson Boeser
Miller Horvat Pearson
Sutter Gaudette Virtanen
Roussel Beagle Leivo
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15 hours ago, TGokou said:
I do wonder if he would be better suited to Pettersson's line or Horvats? Put him with Pettersson and you have a bulldog who will fight to win all puck battles in the corners and dig the puck out for Boeser and Pettersson in the slot. Alternatively he can bulldoze his way to the net, creating rebounds for Boeser or Pettersson to finish. It is a very complimentary skillset for those two players. On the other hand, putting him with Horvat you have a super responsible line that if paired with another high energy winger (Virtanen?) would create havoc all over the ice. Particularly in the playoffs teams would have to put out their best D against Pettersson but if they are ever stuck out there against Horvat - Podkolzin they could really wear them down and score at the same time.
Finesse Line
Hoglander Pettersson Boeser
So much skill on this level that teams wont have a chance to focus on Pettersson only. This only plays to this line's advantage. I could see the potential of each one of them being 30 goal scorers. I still cant believe Hoglander fell to us. I was sure that he was gone by the end of the first. I didn't even have him on my list of 2nd rounder because the expectation that he would be there was non-existent.
Physical Force Line
Virtanen Horvat Podkolzin
I think he is better suited to play with Horvat. The speed, physicality and compete level (as soon as Virtanen catches on) would be a coachs dream. This is a line that is built for the playoffs. Relentless forecheck, responsible backcheck and the offensive flare to punish teams when they make mistakes
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Just now, aGENT said:
If Schenn's in our starting 6, Benning has failed this summer. #7 or #8 D, sure.
I thought he played well last season. He wasn't a defensive liability and was a heart and character guy. Probably the only physical threat we had on the backend at that time as well.
I don't think I would consider it a fail on Benning's part exactly. I would prefer he wait and continue to explore the trade route than spending money on Myers or Gardiner, etc or wait till next year. I think we have one more year before we should be expected to compete/etc. If we don't make the playoffs we keep our 1st as well. Maybe Podk can get out of his contract a year early. Juolevi and Hughes make decent strides this year with the big club, Tryamkin comes back with Podk, and Woo makes the team next year. There are some quality UFA's available next year as well including Barrie. With Tryamkin and Woo in the lineup I think we could go a little smaller on the backend with Barrie.
Hughes Barrie
Juolevi Woo
Tryamkin Stetcher
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41 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:
I think this is a loss. Hutton had a nice bounce back season. As a #4/5 I think hes fine.
Part of the problem is our defense is already terrible. Huttons not an amazing player but he was a top 4 guy for us. Hes gunna need to be replaced.
Quinn Hughes probably wont start in the top 4, so having Hutton back to start there would be ideal then you can move him later when Hughes & Juolevi are up & going later in the year.
As far as losing him for nothing. It is tough circumstances, i dont neccesarily blame management, but it is another player that had value possibly walking for nothing, so thats tough with our lack of assets.
4+million for a 5/6 guy? I think I would rather have the cap space to take on a bad contract with additional assets or going after guys like Johansson, Connoly, Burakovsky, etc. I don't think you could've moved him for anything more than a 3rd/4th rounder. These draft picks do have value but if we aren't able to move him then it compromises our cap.
I always thought he was a fine player and worth at least a late 2nd, but having heard different things from different media sources, it seems there is a consensus that he held a lot more value for the Canucks then he could offer another team and that he is/was nothing more than a bottom pairing guy that could step into a top 4 role if called upon for a short period of time.
There is always that off chance he could come back to the Canucks. He is a UFA and I think if he was comfortable coming back at a lower cap than $4m, there is still a spot.
by December I expect the following defensive roster
Edler Stetcher
Hughes Tanev
Juolevi Schenn
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1 hour ago, Alflives said:
We need D more than Lee, don't you think?
Yes, a dman would be nice but I don't agree with some on here that the D-man has to be found this off season. Tyler Myers, Jake Gardiner, Rasmus Ristolainen are not the dmen we need. We need a top pairing partner for Hughes. Someone that excels at the defensive aspect of the game lol, not like the 3 mentioned above who are average, if not below average defensively. A stay at home or two way defenseman that will allow Hughes to do his thing offensively whilst holding the fort down in his own end. We need a premier defenseman to do that. Of the players mentioned above, I think Tyler Myers is the most defensively sound of the 3 and would not be entirely against him coming here but not at the contract he's rumored to be seeking.
Also, I would now put Lee as the top UFA available followed by Duchene. These guys don't come along too often. I would do whatever I could to try and sign him here. He cements are top 6 and gives us a real shot at the playoffs playing alongside Horvat, Pearson, Miller, Pettersson, and Boeser.
Barrie, Faulk, Josi, and Pietroangelo are all pending UFA's next season. I would target them next season.
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16 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:
I don't see any reason why Miller would be on the third line. The dude is a legit top 6 forward.
Also, I have high hopes for Hoglander. The dude was playing in the SHL as a teenager before he was even drafted and wasn't completely overwhelmed (keep in mind that the SHL is not only a men's league, but probably the 3rd best league in the world). I think it's entirely possible, assuming he can put up some numbers in the SHL next season, that he can be competing for a spot on the roster as early as next season.
I wouldn't write Jasek out, either. I think he'll be competing for a roster spot pretty soon as well.
Not sold on Virtanen as a top six or that Gadjovich is an NHL player.
Overall, I think our forward group is looking pretty damned good going forward. Upgrades are always possible, but it seems to me that we have gamebreakers in every position now.
Miller Pettersson Boeser
Hoglander Horvat Podkolzin
Pearson Gaudette Virtanen
Leivo Madden Lind/Jasek
Something like that., anyways.
The biggest thing now is finding a legit top pairing right D. It's the one massive hole is our prospect/young player pool that needs filling, and we won't be a legit contender until we find that guy.
Completely forgot about Hoglander
I like your lineup much better. Given who we have in the pipeline, I don't expect Pearson to be in our long term plans unless he really plays well these next two years.
Also, just read Anders Lee is likely to hit free agency. 8 year 58-60 million contract. (cant remember if we would be able to offer him 8 or only 7).
Lee Pettersson Boeser
Miller Horvat Pearson
Baertschi Gaudette Virtanen
Roussel Beagle Leivo
Looks like a contender roster to me
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Cant wait to see what the Canucks look like in 2 years (an optimistic view):
??? Pettersson Boeser
Virtanen Horvat Podkolzin
Miller Gaudette Madden
Gadjovich Lockwood Lind
Hughes ???
Juolevi Woo
Rathbone Stetcher
Top line LW
Top pairing RHD
We are arguably 2 high end pieces from a strong playoff team (if our players hit their ceilings).
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On 6/21/2019 at 7:12 PM, coastal.view said:
so virt has 2 years to prove he is a true power forward?
cuz this kid is one
i have no doubt about his ability
or the impact he could have
just less sure about if he will actually arrive
but if he does, virt better be solid on the team .. or ta ta
Don't think having one more power forward makes another one expendable my friend
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3 minutes ago, mpt said:
I dont think there is any evidence that we will be a top 10 team in the league in the next 2 years. Evidence would tend to suggest we have more likelihood picking in the bottom 1-10 rather than 20-31. No evidence at all to suggest we are a playoff team. Most likely the pick will be 10-16
If that’s the case it will be in 2021. By that time I fully expect for our team to come together. Juolevi, Woo and Trymakin are likely on the roster. Hughes and Pettersson are further along in their development along with Demko. If we can somehow get another PP RHD like Barrie I think we are a playoff team without a doubt. Take away the injuries this season and we likely make the playoffs this Past season.
we added size and skill this off season. Hoglander and Podkolzin could both be steals in the draft.
I for one am not worried about this trade one bit. JT Miller plays on Horvats line this year along with Pearson. That’s a hard battling, defensively responsible line that can all have 20-25 goal scorers.
We we need a LW to play with Pettersson and Boeser and our team actually looks pretty good.
We can only hope we can somehow find a top 3 winger and a top 4 RHD over the course of the next two years.
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1 more top 6 hole left
1 more top 4 RHD hole left to fill
Marcus Johansson as UFA
Barrie for a similar return to Subbans
bring on in the playoffs
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2 minutes ago, appleboy said:
That is just so stupid. This guy is another basic two way guy. A dime a dozen. They gave a first and a third. Wow. I hope there is much more to this.
Huh??? I’m confused. He almost had 50 points last season, and close to 60 both seasons prior on par with a Horvat production somewhat and plays a 2 way game so would compliment Horvat really well, he also was limited to 14min TOI . He’s a left wing, something we lack and Horvat finally effin gets another winger to play with. His cap his 5.25. Hayes got 7m/7y for the same production and we have him for 4 years at his prime.
Miller Horvat Pearson
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Just now, Smashian Kassian said:
Damn there goes Korczak.
One of my favourites. Wish we coulda got him, think he's a good bet to play.
Was hoping for him too but after 5 drafts, I’ve learned to go with the flow and just trust Benning and his staff.
Virtnane
Juolevi
Boeser
Pettersson
Hughes
Gaudette
Madden
Palmu
Demko
Podkolzin
Woo
Rathbone
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3 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said:
...yea but chip says bad deal haha.
Lol wtf does chip know? Steal of the draft. Been on my list since day one and said if he was available at 10 it would be a huge mistake if we passed up on him. Complete game, elite shot, high compete level, great hands, not afraid to get physical, and I’ll bet he brings Trymakin with him.
Stoked!!!! Steal of the draft the last 3 years! JB your a gem
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12 minutes ago, Diamonds said:
Lol, that's two years in a row that the player I didn't want is the player we draft. Hope I'm wrong about about Podkolzin, I'm ready to get in his corner!
That’s the spirit
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Just now, canuck2288 said:
I like it
could end up a bust but could also be huge
What? He’s rates as being the 5th most skilled guy in this entire draft!!
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Yesssssssss!!!!! We got our Ovechkin
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Woahhhhhh wtf! Smokescreen to the max
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Trade for 6th incoming?
One of my favourites. Wish we coulda got him, think he's a good bet to play.
[Proposal] Loui Eriksson
in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
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Are you his financial advisor? You seem to jump at every opportunity to protect ownerships spending habits.