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I’ll say this: not every teams situation is the same. For the Canucks, they’d be looking for that all scenarios #1 dman in Ekblad. That’s what they lack. Blues had a #1C #1D #W #1G, all of the things which are hardest to gather. And you kind of make my point for me, they weren’t in cap trouble then but are now as they’ve had to continue to pay their key players. It’s at a point where they can’t afford Pietrenagelo now and are letting him go for nothing in FA.

Tampa is excited with the acquisition of Krejci! David is a respected veteran who’s done it all and still capable of putting up productive numbers. Organizationally, we felt this was a move which will take us another step forward and put pressure on the teams ahead of us in the standings. ...having a stock of prospect+picks, we deemed it doable to be able to drop out of the 1st round in order to bolster the NHL roster.

Now this is where I think me and everyone else knows you’re being oblivious to the fact there are contracts like Eriksson that prevent teams from bettering themselves in other areas of the ice. They didn’t move him because there were no takers combined with management likely weren’t willing to give away a lot to move him out. But in Loui’s case, maybe that changes now since most of his real money is paid as he only has $5M left to pay over the next 2 years ($2.5M per) while stole holding a $6M cap hit which makes it a lot easier now for cheaper owned teams to take on. Same can’t be said for the dmen Florida has locked up, they’re still owed big chunks of real dollars. And the Canucks have been forced to use Loui. Green’s decision to not play him these playoffs says everything there is to say and even when he did get games later on, 0pts in 10gp. I’d argue it already has hurt them. Brock wasn’t able to be signed long term because the Canucks didn’t have the flexibility to pay him more to secure term. And for sure it’ll effect them this off season and going forward. Sure but the problem is the “optics” with the real life cap hit we have to live with. And yea like mentioned above, I’m hopeful they’re able to find a suitor now that his real dollars have been mostly paid and little money is left which he is owed. Ehhh sure but the 2 do go hand in hand. Like I wouldn’t mind the Canucks throwing a 7x$10M at Pietrangelo to secure a “serviceable” player. It’s not just about that, it’s about how the finances ripple down the rest of the team.

As if bigger named players in history and recent history haven’t been dealt

I’d argue Boeser is more of a 1st line winger than Johansen is a 1st line centre. Brock has better production (p/g) and Johansen didn’t sustain the 70pt pace/season he had in Columbus. Never fully transferred over to Nashville. I’d still say he’s a 1C a part from the down year he had this season.

Isn’t it already in the process of an overhaul with Myers brought in as a new face? It would just be continuing it. If one of Tanev/Stecher or even both leave, and a Cernak and/or Ekblad are brought in, that’s half the defense infused with new faces. I’d say it’s overhauling. Considering Hughes a new face too. That’d be 4/6 dmen. Fantenberg will probably be replaced with one of the prospects so that’s another. Leaving on Edler as the only for sure long term face who we know will be around for the new season.

I wouldn’t say they’re compromising. It’s not like they’d trade him for the sake of trading him. They need help upfront. Kinda like the Jones-Johansen trade that I’ve referred to in previous posts. Turns out CBJ won that deal with Jones being the better player but not like it didn’t help both teams. In the same way, I don’t see how this sort of trade wouldn’t help both teams needs. Florida is scarce upfront and have surplus dmen. The opposite is true for the Canucks. ...appreciate the honest opinions we shared :]

So yea this is where and why I think you are devaluing Boeser. Labelling him as a top6 forward is doing him a disservice. That’d be like calling Ekblad a top4 dman. Very broad and both players easily surpass such tiers. As such, Ekblad is a top2 dman as you say and imo Boeser is very easily a 1st line scoring winger. And yea I’m agreeing Boeser alone doesn’t cut it. However Florida wouldn’t get the world from us either. Would be a comprise in the middle. The way I see it, we wouldn’t give them some A grade + nor would they accept a below value. Why I think a B grade prospect/middle round pick(s) would be a fair compromise for both sides and fair value.

Except Myers is a “bad” contract. He’s grossly overpaid.

Yep I’m not denying that. If anything, you’re devaluing Boeser. It would never be Boeser/Juolevi/1st. That’s 3 1sts. Florida would jump on that lol.

I don’t think so, not at all. Will be more a secondary tier +. Maybe a B level prospect and or mid pick like a 3rd/4th/5th ...Ekblad’s contract is pretty hefty in itself and he hasn’t produced to what the organization expected him to when they signed it.

It’s not that easy tho. If it was, the Canucks could move out Eriksson’s contract and/or Baertschi’s, Sutter’s, etc...so they could comfortably retain each one of Marky Toffoli Tanev Stecher and not have to let any of them walk. But as we know that’s just not how things work for us. And other teams such as Florida in this instance.

Sorry but I don’t get any connection you’re trying to make here as it does not apply whatsoever in Boeser+ for Ekblad.

I don’t think anyone’s saying or has said Podkolzin would be included as a +

How would getting Ekblad be a quick fix if he’s the same age as Boeser?

I hear ya but disagree. Look at how Jones propelled CBJ to the next level. Ekblad would be that all around top dman. I feel our team has a much bigger glaring need on the backend and are surplus organizationally upfront. So it’s a very sensible sacrifice to make to improve overall team balance.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/31-thoughts-matt-dumba-next-wild-trade-block/ > Harman mentions Florida is depleted of a 2nd line with Hoffman & Dadonov heading to free agency which is where a possible Boeser move would make sense...according to Friedman, Panthers new GM will look to move out a “big ticket” blue line contract to which Harman says Ekblad is the only one with positive trade value. (other dmen/contracts are essentially unmovable) > A speculative deal would have to be Boeser+ simply due to the fact top dmen are valued more than top forwards. Maybe the only hockey deal I can remember in recent memory happening regarding a top D for top F was the Seth Jones for Ryan Johansen trade. Arguable no plus was needed with the forward because Johansen is a centre. (bit more valuable) > Harman says the Canucks can look to target Erik Cernak from Tampa like we did with JT Miller. He’s 23, Tampa is in a cap crunch and won’t be able to afford him. If offer-sheeted at ~$4M, compensation would be a 2nd rounder. Cernak is a big body and already a better rated dman than Tanev whose declined has begun. Canucks can look to offersheet or go down the trade route and pay similar/possible even slightly less value to acquire him. ...what I’m getting from this is JB wants to better equip the Canucks backend and rightfully so. They were bombarded in the playoffs and held hostage in many sequences. There’s a few scenarios I see: A.) Canucks simply re-sign both Tanev & Stecher keeping them for the right side (but that doesn’t change anything or improve the blueline if it’s looking to be “overhauled”) B.) Canucks keep one of Tanev/Stech and bring in a Cernak type dman C.) Canucks keep one of Tanev/Stech and bring in an Ekblad (who JB has historically been looking to add, a true top pair RHDman, as he’s been reported attempting to trade for dmen like Subban and Karlsson in the past) D.) Canucks keep none of Tanev/Stech and bring in both an Ekblad and Cernak replacing the would be ex-Canucks. Quite frankly I’d be pleased with anything other than scenario A. There’s no sense in keeping the same dcore if we’re truly looking to take the next steps to compete even more. It was evident this current d group won’t get the job done. If that means moving on from Tanev who has been so valuable for us, then so be it as long as it’s for improvement.

Didn’t know there were 2 Trump threads on the forum lol ...just like Biden’s town hall yesterday, anything related to him somehow ends up concluding to Trump.

The backpedaling is real lol. If you can, please tell us what “video editing software” was used in that uploaded video. I’m sure we’d all love to know and be enlightened so we know moving ahead to be aware of such shambolic deceitful content...

The questions are edited... Lol but seriously, that means every video I’ve ever made at a Canucks game is edited because I didn’t record the whole game. And every quote ever which wasn’t from A-Z. What an unnecessary and dumb thing to say. Let alone use as some sort of hill to die on

Yeah I don’t know what the point in saying that was because clearly the video was not doctored in any way which is what Rupert clearly made it seem like happened. “Video editing software”...whatever that was supposed to mean. And using Rupert‘s logic, every video or article ever uploaded or published is deemed “edited” unless what was referenced was the full entire thing. Even if said thing was not rearranged or doctored (edited) not having used some sort of video edit software.

Not edited, I think the words you’re looking for is “video editing software”. Because those videos are edited like a Marvel movie producer made em

1) whoever posted that video didn’t use “video editing software”, they simply recorded a clip and uploaded it. Not rocket science. 2) are you insinuating I did say that? No. And the video is not edited. I don’t think you know what that word means. It’s a clip that’s recorded and uploaded. 3) I’m not a “Trump fan” but I wouldn’t expect anything less from the tolerant left and outrage mob when views against their own are brought up.

I’m glad to hear you were able to overcome it. Sorry but that’s just flat out wrong. He’s not the same person he was 2 years ago let alone during his days as VP or decades ago as you claim. Again, just a bit of common sense shows there’s been an inarguable medical decline which has lingering effects and continues to effect him. Don’t be that blind apologist who will defend such lengths haha. And well if you haven’t noticed, I didn’t chime in this thread about sterilizations.

Don’t want to be that guy, but this was Debrusk’s worst NHL campaign p/g wise whereas it was Virtanen’s career year which was unquestionably unsustainable and proved true in the bubble/playoffs once things started up again. / Debrusk is an every day top6 PWF. Same can’t be said for JV. Even Benning voiced his disappointment in him after being eliminated. And he’s been his biggest advocate hoping he’d prove him right for drafting him. But yea, that’s just the reality sadly. Comparing JV-Debrusk is a bit silly without context