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Sigh... At the end of the day it doesn't matter. Kylington and the other defensemen 'were 2nd rounders' and we 'took the BPA' with Boeser, and then the team didn't get their 'assured trade for 2nd rounders' done. It's all part of the plan.I agree. As much as it's nice to have a pure scoring winger I also feel as if he will fly on us. I would have rather taken the risk on Kylington.
Maybe i'm dead wrong about Boeser anyway. Afterall, nobody listens to me.
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Indeed. I guess time will tell, because I seem to recall the same people saying all the right stuff about McNally half a decade ago. It's great to develop these guys in college... Until they don't develop. Or they just leave.That's a bizarre conclusion to draw. Granted he is eligible to play in the AHL right away, but that doesn't mean he should. Benning doesn't seem overly concerned about it and they interviewed Boeser extensively at the combine.
Seems ... strange ... that they would invest so much time and money into scouting this kid and never get around to asking what his pro hockey plans were. But of course we fans can deduce so much more clearly from ... a 20 word sound bite?
Weird.
Stranger things have happened. As Canucks fans we've seen it all.
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"Getting a college degree is important to me," said Boeser, who says he has been asked to go to the Canadian Hockey League but decided to stick with the NCAA. "Just getting it for life after hockey. It's not all hockey your whole life."
We may not see Boeser in the pros for years, and by then he may just Schultz off to the team of his choice. (The Minnesota Wild.)
A guy drafted 23rd overall in the 2015 draft should have been able to become a pro right away.
We will wait and see what happens here.
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Yes, we know. Potential. Will gain strength. -40 is due to the team. etc. etc. etc. Same song and dance.
Can't rip these guys, but ripping Virtanen is a go.
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You hear people say this, but others say we have so many RW's that we don't have any room. But you never hear that we're full of decent defenders.Keep in mind people; like Virtanen he is a right handed shot, and his natural position is the right side. People say we're weak on defense in our prospect pool but our young right wing depth is barren. Benning most used that as the tie-break when evaluating him next to other prospects; I find it hard to believe no one pointed that out. (If someone did, correct me please.)
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Not shocked at this draft selection at all.
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Not sure why we didn't select a USNDP player instead. On second though, yeah I'm kinda sure.
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Boeser kinda moped all the way to the draft floor, but so did McCann.
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I like this pick for sure.
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This post is redundant.The pro-Virtanen crowd brings up Nylander and Ehlers as much if not more than the anti-Virtanen crowd (and of course there's a lot of people in the grey area between those two poles) anyway, why don't you just ignore it when people bring it up if you're offended.
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There's some time left before we get to complain about the next round of Benning draft picks.Get a room you two...
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I said maybe the plan was to not merely replace the Sedins, but to improve on them, in regards to playoff performance. Jake would be part of that plan, but not the whole. This is why i'm not too hung up about passing on the pseudo 'franchise' talent that Ehlers and Nylander represent. It seems that Benning agrees. If he changes his mind about that, well, then I won't be surprised. It's the Canucks.you definitely implied it. Or why else bring it up in your argument?
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Technically, I didn't even say Virtanen does. Shall we read?we're getting off track. this all goes back to you claiming that ehlers doesn't show up in big games while virtanen does. shall we start over?
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No you didn't. You're just making some lame point about toughness over skill. Let it be known though that Virtanen has skill. I do wish more people would notice.i did say this using your twisted logic though.
See Tyler Johnson didnt get asingle point in his elimination game. Just like ehlers.
All the while sbisa had a goal for us in our last against Calgary.
So is sbisa a better big game player?
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You said this, not me.yeah thats like saying sbisa had a better playoffs than tyler johnson...
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Leading the Q in playoff scoring doesn't mean much if he doesn't advance past round two, does it? It makes the Q look like a joke. In his elimination game he was pointless and said he was tired. But aside from that, how about the 1 goal scored by him all WJC despite getting 30mins a game in an offense-only role?hey i never said anything about wanting ehlers or nylander. But its pretty obvious your spewing crap from your mouth when you say that jake is a better big game player after ehlers led the q in playoff scoring.
Anyway, there are other ways to make an impact on games besides empty points in losing efforts. And as for the 'franchise' capability of either other player, i'm just not buying it. There are just so many unlikeable aspect to their game and I'm sure we'll do better in drafts down the road. Even if we have to wait for a Sedin retirement.
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No BS needed. Enough has already been said in the full calendar year since the 2014 draft. Maybe you guys can just cheer for your boys on their boards or something.Be prepared to hear some turbo BS.
"Ehlers is soft..."
"Jake plays physical..."
"Jake had shoulder surgery like a year ago..."
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Maybe the plan is to not select Sedin replacements, but instead to select improvements on the Sedins. Meaning guys who are better playoff performers. And considering Nylander's and Ehlers no-show efforts in big games thus far...We won't be in the next two years in my opinion. Maybe after that when the Sedins retire we're really that bad that we're back in the top 10 for picks perhaps, but then that'd mean there's a gap while we draft that replacement for the Sedins skill and wait for them to develop. Seems like a backwards way of thinking, especially if you're suggesting we'll be back to having that high a pick yet still think drafting character/physical/hard working guys with our recent high picks like Horvat, Virtanen, etc. was the right choice for us to continue to be successful.
And that's a large assumption to think Benning sees Nylander and Ehlers in the same light as you and only one-dimensional skill that wasn't even that good. Another possibility is he wanted the home town boy, or that he preferred the overall style and less risk of Virtanen versus wanting to go for a higher upside.
Anyway, I'm certainly glad Benning passed on these guys, regardless of how they turn out for their respective teams. If Virtanen fell to either team, they'd be drooling all over the power and speed aspect to his game while we would be pumped about power play points scored in meaningless and easy games while defending diving and falling antics.
Meanwhile, what of Ritchie? Are we totally ignoring his decent OHL playoff? OMG Ritchie!
I think there will be other players besides Nylander and Ehlers in the future. I wish them well, but frack I am sick to death of you guys bringing them up.
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I'm wondering how you guys assume that we won't pick as high in awhile considering the downslope the Sedins, who are still counted on here for offense here, are on? Wishful thinking?That'd be pretty lofty expectations for him to have the career the Sedins have, but there are very few prospects anywhere that would meet that anyway. I doubt 2011 had much to do with it, even if stylistically Benning seems to favour a North American style game.
Then again, Taylor Pyatt at 9th overall in the same draft as the Sedins didn't guarantee anyone else a cup either, and he was projected to be a little better than he turned out to be as well. Nothing's a guarantee, and if you have a chance to draft high end skill and won't likely see another pick as high in awhile, you should think long and hard before passing on it.
It seems that Benning saw Nylander and Ehlers as I do. Their one-dimensional skill just wasn't all that noteworthy, not enough to make up for their respective flaws, and are hardly what we'd want our team to be built around. We could do better, and we will.
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Not that Nylander will be as good as either Sedin, but maybe Benning took notes on how easily Boston shut that high end distribution game down and turned it into glorious offensive chances from his own team.Even if Nylander might not end up as a center, he'd at least have that experience and would bring that high end distribution game that we didn't realize how much we'd miss once the Sedins do retire.
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I'm going on a tangent here, but you see what I mean with regards to my post above? The fact that we're even discussing this like it even matters means there's something wrong with us. The Canucks man. The Canucks.Yes, I think it would include Buffalo. However, I think his Boston record holds more weight for two reasons:
1) if drafting is in fact skill driven (as opposed to luck) one would expect a person, Benning, to get better at it as his experience increases - which certainly is not the case with Benning.
2) one would expect Bennings clout -that is his ability to actualize his draft preferences- to also increase over time and experience (Boston said they brought him in because of his scouting/player development experience). Thus we would expect Benning to have more say in who was drafted in Boston than he did in Buffalo.
Anyway, I believe the Canucks and Linden had sold Benning's drafting and scouting ability at the time of the hire. There was enough evidence to support this at the time due to his Buffalo history. His role in Boston was director of player personnel and then assistant gm, not director of amateur scouting, so we're guessing how involved he was in the drafting/scouting process there, but he still managed to help build a winner there, so that was also a part of the sell. Basically we were supposed to be happy that we got him out of Boston. I see no reason to discount his abilities entirely at this point, but there will be no 'impressing everyone' ever.
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Hmm, you'd think this data would include his Buffalo drafting record? I seem to recall that being trumpted by many at the time of the Benning hire. Or no?I'm not sure if they think he is a drafting/scouting savior. They might have said that others believe that to be the case. They tend to base their opinions on empirical data and Benning's weak drafting record in Boston I don't think would inspire confidence.
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Without reading that article, I guess it will be another full year of whining from Canucks Army? Oh well.
I always found it interesting while they all insist that Benning is a drafting/scouting saviour, and he has a plan that goes beyong all quantifiable understanding, they openly and repeatedly rip his very first draft selection. That's some cognitive dissonance there.
We're starting to see why anonymity is a huge factor in how US teams can become more successful than Canadian ones. A team could make their picks and other moves without them being scrutinized at every turn. It would be a welcome thing for that to happen here, but on the other hand, people here care enough to not only pay attention to the prospects and moves, but get riled up about what some other person has to say about them.
Basically, as huge Canucks fans, over the years we've all developed an array of personality disorders... Paranoid, schizotypal, antisocial, histrionic, narcissistic, avoidant, dependant, OCD, and schizoid, I am sure. If you haven't gone through then at least a few of these, then obviously you're just not big enough of a fan.
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I'd probably care less about his tweets and more about his skating.