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6 minutes ago, mll said:
Only Pettersson has the B bonus - the maximum 2M. Hughes doesn't have the B-bonus and only the maximum A of 850K.
Good point. I knew Hughes being 9th overall he probably didn't have them all.
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18 minutes ago, Maginator said:
What are those bonus' about?
Seems like a lot of money for a rook. Anyone care to elaborate?
Standard performance bonuses that top picks usually get. Pettersson and Hughes have them. However, maxing out the bonuses is usually reserved for very high picks. Pettersson was the first 5th overall pick to get max bonuses.
https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1000404695591084032?s=19
https://puckpedia.com/entry-level-performance-bonuses
"A" Level Bonuses
"A" Bonuses are worth $212,500 each, to a maximum of $850,000 (maximum 4 achieved). They are achieved by each of:
Forwards
-20 goals
-35 assists
-60 points
-Top six in Time on Ice among forwards (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)
-Top three in +/- among forwards on team (minimum 42 games)
-0.73 points per game (minimum 42 games)
-End-of Season All Rookie Team
-All Star Selection
-All Star MVP
Defensemen
-10 goals
-25 assists
-40 points
-Top four in Time on Ice among Defensemen (in total and/or per game) on team (minimum 42 games)
-Top three in +/- among defensemen on team (minimum 42 games)
-0.49 points per game (minimum 42 games)
-Top two among defensemen on team in blocked shocks
-End-of Season All Rookie Team
-All Star Selection
-All Star MVP
Goalies
-1,800 minutes played
-GAA < median GAA of all goalies with 25+ GP
-SV % > median save % of all goalies who played 25+ GP
-20 Wins (30+ mins in a game to qualify)
-Shutouts > median number of shutouts of all goalies who played 25+ GP-Top three in +/- among forwards on team (minimum 42 games)
-End-of Season All Rookie Team
-All Star Selection
-All Star MVP
"B" Level Bonuses
"B" Bonuses are worth a maximum of $2 Million, and the full amount of the bonus is awarded if any of the following is achieved:
-Forwards: Top Ten in NHL Forward Goals, Assists, points, or points per game (min 42 GP)
-Defensemen: Top Ten in NHL Defensemen Goals, Assists, points, ice time or points per game (min 42 GP) for forwards
-Win any of the following trophies: Hart, Selke, Richard, Conn Smythe
-1st or 2nd team All-Star
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17 minutes ago, qwijibo said:
You’re missing NJ. They’ve had a recapture penalty on the books for Kovalchuk since he bolted to Russia. It’s not a huge amount but the structure of the penalty is the same. The total cap savings spread over years that remained in the contract. He only played a couple years on the contract and there were several years left so there wasn’t much cap savings to have to pay back compared to the years.
Yeah. I remember kovy. His recapture was negligible and only 250k.
13 minutes ago, mll said:Quick, Carter, Keith and Crosby also have active recapture contracts.
Good point. Not sure why he didn't include those contracts as it seemed too few to me.
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6 hours ago, Drakrami said:
I dont think LTIR is just free cap; so a player retiring is the best option to Florida. Im not knowledgable myself so I'm just posting in guessing terms. We'll see how Ferland is handled.
LTIR isn't free cap per se as you need to include that cap number in the off season and then you can put the player on LTIR when the season starts. Florida just preferred Luongo retired instead cause their cap recapture was negligible and they saved real money.
https://www.tsn.ca/luongo-retires-hitting-canucks-with-3-million-cap-recapture-penalty-1.1328964
Luongo made the rare choice to walk away with three years remaining on his contract with the Florida Panthers, foregoing $3.62 million in salary. Playing through lingering hip pain, he could have easily found support from a doctor to say his body was no longer fit for play, leaving him eligible to collect that cash on long-term injured reserve.
The Florida Panthers, who did not enjoy as much of a benefit in cap savings compared to cash, will also be hit with a $1.09 million charge for three seasons.
The Panthers actually encouraged Luongo to retire instead of seeking a long-term injury exception. For one, the cap penalty is somewhat negligible. Plus, the retirement path saves them $3.6 million in real cash and also reduces the headache of carrying a player on LTIR, which impacts cap flexibility.
The Los Angeles Kings were the only team previously to be hung with a cap recapture penalty after they terminated Mike Richards’ contract in 2015. Other players with back-diving deals, such as, Pronger, Hossa and Zetterberg escaped by virtue of LTIR. , Weber, Parise and Suter are the only other active players eligible for the penalty.
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1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said:
The league is to blame because retroactively punishing contracts THEY approved is bush league at best.
Yeah it's dumb they retroactively changed it, but there was an easy loophole of LTIR to get around it. Luongo easily qualified for LTIR, but Florida told him to retire instead. That's why, I don't blame the NHL because it was so easy to get around the change and avoid the recapture penalty. It was a rule change that was mostly an empty threat.
I never considered the possibility of getting hit with recapture because with Luongo's failing hips and knees, I thought it was automatic Luongo would end his career on LTIR. I didn't foresee Florida wanting him to retire instead because they benefited more from that and had no problem screwing us. That's why, I blame them over the NHL.
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Shocking cause he said he wanted playoffs and a short term deal to the avs would have been a no brainer if that was true. Well I'm glad he didn't go to the avs cause that would have made them too stacked!
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Solid deal, especially since one advanced stats site had him as more valuable than draisaitl!
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I'm not worried about the defense like you guys. I want to see the kids like Juolevi and Rathbone get a chance and nhl experience.
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6 hours ago, thundernuts said:
When they revised the rule to let other teams off the hook, but not the Canucks, it was another kick in the nuts.
One, point of clarification here. The NHL isn't at fault here. The canucks very much could have taken advantage of the LTIR loophole like other teams. However Florida told Luongo to retire instead of going on LTIR and since his loyalty was with Florida now and they were going to offer him a job, he listened to them and retired instead of going on LTIR which he could have easily with his injuries. I blame Florida for the recapture penalty and not the NHL here. They chose to screw us, so &^@# Dave Tallon! I'm glad he got fired!
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7 minutes ago, Hockey God said:
I'd love to be in the room to hear the argument against Jake getting what he wants. Talk about tough love ...
They'll put up this picture and go this is Jake before every training camp.
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Going to miss Troy from Richmond!
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Him with the Oilers is the smart move since he needs 1st pp time on a show me deal. However, the ironic thing is even if he lights it up with Oilers other teams will say it's the McDavid/Draisaitl effect and still lowball him.
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It's a bit surprising as he could be similar to JT Miller and thrive with a bigger role, since Tampa is so stacked. I bet being 30 years old already is the big mark against him. Also, goes to show you how much owners are willing to spend in this covid world as he easily gets traded last year like Miller or would have been snapped up on waivers immediately. Now, Tampa needs to package a draft pick or prospect with him.
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Blues did petro dirty. That Faulk trade and signing made no sense over prioritizing petro. Now Krug closes the door. He should have retired a blue.
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I would be interested on a cheap deal like that 3.9m I saw floated around. Don't think he would actually sign for that, but he played much better once Babcock was fired.
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Loved tanev, but 4 years was too much for him. Benning is having a great off season so far by thinking big picture and not locking into long term with Markstrom and tanev. Money wise both those contracts are fine but they don't work for us because Demko has always been the goalie of the future and tanev's deal is 2 years too long.
It's all about preparing for petey and Hughes big paydays and Benning is doing a great job so far. Just don't overpay for barrie now!
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Barrie would need to take a cheap show me deal. However, with Quinn running the pp, he would face the same situation as he would in Toronto, so vancouver would be a poor fit for his show me deal. He needs a team that will let him run the pp.
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So long Markstrom and thanks for all the fish! I would much rather him go to Calgary than Edmonton because I think the flames with Markstrom are less scary than the Oilers with Markstrom. McDavid and Draisaitl could run and gun to wins with Markstrom behind them, but Johnny Hockey and Monahan will still be playoffs ghosts with Markstrom!
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I like the move as a 1B to Demko and he's a great character guy!
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At least David Clarkson scored 30 goals once before getting paid! Wow, that's a pretty big gamble before finding out if he's for real or was that one season a fluke.
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At least this will all be over soon!
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15 minutes ago, Googlie said:
Speculation on 650 that if Marky gets wooed by Calgary, they will then approach Arizona to see if OEL will add Calgary to his list. Apparently he and Marky are best buddies.
Marky is best buds with Lindholm, so rather than be the third wheel OEL would rather be in Vancouver!
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7 minutes ago, mll said:
Tweet is not quite accurate. Vegas wants to trade the full 7M. They are trying to get a 3rd team involved who would retain 50% of salary and trade him then further at 50% - the cost for the retention is a 2nd + 1st.
Oh well that changes things completely lol. No wonder fleury hasn't been traded yet because I thought vegas was going to retain 50% and send a 2nd round pick!
[Signing] Canadiens sign Tyler Toffoli
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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Interesting because when the rumour came out he would sign with us for 4 years and 4.5m, I thought that was pretty cheap and now he signs for even less! I guess the canucks didn't want him back. Pre pandemic, I bet he was hoping to hit 6m.