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2 minutes ago, 250Integra said:
I'd rather us try to sign Pietrangelo for a shorter term / similar money (6 x 7.5 mil?) without giving up assets. We really need another RH option on defense. Hopefully this is Benning's plan B if this doesn't go through.
Petro already turned down 8x8m from the blues.
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Glad OEL set a deadline and didn't expand his list instead. Benning needs to stick to his guns and only offer lowball deals or let Arizona keep that contract and continue to miss payments due to money issues! The countdown to friday is on!
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Benning needs to stay strong and not overpay because of that contract. Arizona needs to stop expecting full value for him!
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6 minutes ago, nergish said:
Subtitles, my friend.
He said "a house like this would be 10-12 million in Vancouver". Which is definitely true.
He's an expert in Vancouver real estate? How long has he been pining for us?! We should bend over Arizona even more in a trade!
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11 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:
Draisaitl has never been considered an overpayment what are you on about? He was nearly a ppg player on an awful team in year one and followed with 105 points in year 2 of the deal.
Huh? Are you forgetting the narrative around that contract? It was widely considered an overpayment and people thought draisaitl took Chiarelli to the cleaners.
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4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:
Hard to make a case for Petey to make more than Draisaitl if we're being honest $20mil+ for both Petey and Hughes is a stretch at best probably will be more accurately around 15-17 for both.
You can't use the draisaitl contract as a comparable. At the time people thought it was an overpayment and now he outplayed that contract, so he's underpaid now. It would be like saying Petey shouldn't make more than Mackinnon. Contracts like that aren't comparable for players today.
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2 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:
The only kids that got those contracts were from Toronto cause Dubas is synonymous with dumbass, McJesus and Eichel deserve their 10mil+ cause they carry their franchises on their backs. Matthew Tkachuk got 7mil, Sebastian Aho got 8.5m and Leon Draisaitl got 8.5m. Aaron Ekblad and Thomas Chabot got 7.5m and 8m respectively. Those should be the real numbers for Petey and Hughes, and some of those players are on Canadian teams so don't give me that lower tax nonsense. Not those bloated messes of contracts Toronto handed out. Rantanen is a bit high as well at 9.25m, but that's likely as high as I can see Petey getting. Hughes if we're smart is at or slightly above the Chabot contract (8milx8 years).
If we're being honest the Hughes and Pettersson contracts should be in the 8-9m range, on long term deals. Could maybe argue for Petey to get closer to 9.5m if he hits 80+ points 30+ goals like Rantanen has done before he signed his contract. He hit those totals in back to back seasons before signing his deal. I really don't see our kids getting 10+ mil. Even Kucherov didn't get that.
I think Petey is better than Eichel. For all of his points, Buffalo is still a tire fire with Eichel. Vancouver was similar to Buffalo, but Petey and Hughes instantly changed them and have made the canucks winners now. They're both more valuable than Eichel to me. I do think they're our Matthews/Marner, so anything less than those contracts, I would consider a home town discount. I think Montreal screwed up with that lowball contract to Aho, which Carolina didn't think twice about matching. I think Aho undersold himself accepting that offer sheet and should have gotten a bigger contract.
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2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:Dude, your Brock takes are just awful.
Brock probably stole his gf or something because he has an irrational hate for him since like forever.
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Benning should tell Arizona to take a hike if they want an RoR package. The comparable should be the Subban trade. However, he was an actual Norris trophy winner and Arizona has way less leverage than Nashville did, so they should get a package less than what Subban returned.
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1 minute ago, wai_lai416 said:
I know its like hes unwanted in the league and Arizona would be lucky to get rid if him lol. More than half the league would jump on it if OEL has them on the list
The cap hit is scary. Petey and Hughes are due for 10m+ each unless they take home town discounts.
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8 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:
You guys are hilarious its like you guys are valuing OEL on Eriksson level. Most star defenseman plays well into their mid 30s. OEL apparently is a bad contract but NHL GM would gladly be offering the likes of Pietrangelo something similar cap that will prolly take him to 35. If we offer say 8years at 8mil for hughes when hes 27 you guys be like omg that's a steal.. hypocrites
Petro just finished 4th in Norris voting this season. Oel is good, but he's not a true number 1 like Petro anymore. A lot of people remember a player at their peak and then have a hard time letting go of that image. This isn't the same oel of a few years ago. Unless the canucks go to a 2 dman pp, then oel will be on the 2nd unit so won't get all those juicy pp points he got in Arizona too.
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Canucks hold all cards in a trade. I wouldn't even do Hoglander for oel 1 for 1 with that contract. Arizona needs to get him off the books and should accept Louie and Sutter to save real money and thank us for taking oel's contract!
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Bold strategy of stars to try to match the canucks shot totals after 2 in their game 7 versus Vegas.
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I knew Tampa wouldn't fire blanks like Vegas did. Stamkos in 3 mins scored more goals against Dallas than Marchessault did all series!
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I'm cheering for Tampa because I don't want Heiskanen to get a cup before Petey!
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Glad the knights are out, but I think Tampa rolls Dallas. They won't fire so many blanks if they get the same amount of chances Vegas got.
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14 minutes ago, SILLY GOOSE said:
I guess the myth of Jake being built for the playoffs was just that. A myth and not reality. It's true that a player like Jake should be built for the playoffs, but that requires someone with higher hockey iq and desire to compete and win. I think Jake like Shane O'Brien is just content to be in the NHL, so he can party and chase women.
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It's ok. It'll be sweeter when we win a cup when the pandemic is over and we can have fans and a parade! The future is bright and I can't wait till we have guys like Lind, Hoglander and Podkolzin join our team because we need more offensive firepower.
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Sad. We would have beaten Dallas! Totally unfair to demko. Our pp let us down so bad!
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I'm not sure why you guys think that's charging. The puck was right there and it was a clean shoulder check.
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The Vancouver Demkos win again! Unbelievable game by him again! Game 7 baby! Let's go!
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Frustrating thing is Vegas looks very beatable if we had round 1 Markstrom.
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Very nice to see the canucks leading the charge to cancel games today. A bunch of high character guys we have!
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Good for the NHL postponing. Would have been better yesterday as it's a bit reactive now, but better late than never!
[Signing] Golden Knights re-sign Robin Lehner
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The current sweetener is 50% retained + a 2nd round pick, but teams are holding out for a 1st and 2nd! Honestly, I'd take just the 2nd pick for a 3.5m backup for demko! That's an easy 2nd round pick for Benning to pick up and he could let Markstrom walk without worrying about finding Demko a backup.