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11 hours ago, Silver Ghost said:
You make it sound like he has had 3 years of exclusive top line usage and done nothing with it. Thats not close to the truth at all. He was not really given a lot of top 6 opportunity overall considering what they signed him to do.
The coaches certainly share some of the blame. Neither Desjardins nor Green have really attempted to utilize Eriksson in the way Boston did that got the most out of him. He has been largely miscast in Van, which has actually been an ongoing theme in Vancouver back to the Alain Vigneault days. Some players were just square pegs in round holes. Some of that is on Eriksson for not running with the somewhat sporadic opportunities he got for sure. As i have said many times. But really, if you sign a player to a big money deal like that its probably a good idea to understand how he found the success previously that made you want to sign him in the first place and try to get him back to that place.
Sometimes players dont fit in even playing with great players. Chemistry is not guaranteed. That seems to be the case with Eriksson in Van unfortunately.
Burrows often gets lumped in as a plugger who the Sedins made into a good player but what people miss is that Burrows also made the Sedins more effective by the way he played the game. He gave them space to make plays. He went to the net. He retrieved pucks, forechecked hard, and added a strong defensive conscience to their line. All of these things helped allow the Sedins to play their game. Thats how chemistry works.
I thought at the time that, despite international success as a line, Eriksson would not be a good fit with the Sedins on the Canucks. Unfortunately they were pretty much all we had in his first few years in Van. Last year I thought Eriksson looked pretty good with EP actually. Not lights out, but not worthy of the demotion either. So in a sense I can understand his frustration too.
Players get sat and demoted for all kinds of reasons, and its not always that the best players play. Coaches are human and have favorites who despite struggling never lose their spot. Its not a negative, its just reality. O'Neill's comment is seriously simplified presumably so it can become a soundbyte for the unwashed masses desperate to hate on a guy who by all accounts hasnt lived up to his contract.
Eriksson is up against it now. He has to win any spot he might get. And thats not a bad thing at all. If he can't, he ends up in Utica etc.
But his time in Vancouver has not only been a failure because of him. It was a bad contract to begin with and thats on Benning. It set the expectations sky high. He has struggled to find a steady role and thats on Desjardins and now Green too. Its their job.
I want him gone as much as the next guy. But your argument does not seek out any realistic balance at all.
I hear what you're saying with regards to linemates and opportunity, but i don't want LE gone because of his lack of pts. I haven't been able to stand his lack of effort. he has no desire to engage in battles, reaching into battles only (usually falling down because of it), and defers to others to either drive the play or retrieve the puck.
If he wasn't playing that way, then both his linemates calibre and his playing time would have both increased.
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9 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said:
Billionaires don’t become billionaires by wasting money
But they spend millions to make even more millions
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6 hours ago, N7Nucks said:
Could use a water boy. What are his thoughts on water vs gatorade?
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4 hours ago, Agoork said:
On Twitter, someone posted a pic of Panarin wearing a white version of the retro jersey. Green stripes and blue shoulders. Looks pretty sweet.
I took that and did a version with blue/green stripes and white shoulders, and another with green shoulders.
I think all 3 look better than the blue version, but maybe that's just me
That middle one is really sweet. makes the modernized SiR look really good (retro yet stylish and clean).
The only improvement I'd say is the negative space V's on the sleeves. Can't understand why they won't bring those back.
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Just now, Rob_Zepp said:
c'mon, stop being critical, we've all been there......
It really sticks out poorly because there's no other white trim
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Away jersey = > awesome.
Black skate jersey => awesome
Home jersey needs to ditch the white SiR shoulder patches
Heritage => WTF? where to start... the toilet seat around the neck ? the huge white Sir on such a dark jersey ? only green on blue striping ?
(not even V's on the sleeves which would have been soooo easy)
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11 hours ago, rekker said:
Anyone here watch Live PD? Yip, USA is traumatizing.
My daughter and i are addicted. don't know why, but can't look away
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7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
to me thats far better than being anchored with the last 3 years of whatever Gardiner and Myers will get.
I think he'd be good for PP2 as well
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On 2/22/2019 at 6:01 PM, 73 Percent said:
Nah nah nah. Pettersson doesnt get panarin and boeser. Horvat gets at least one of the two.
Panarin pettersson virtanen
Baerstchi horvat boeser
Panarin Pettersson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Kapanen
Roussel Gaudette Virtanen
Edler Stecher
Hughes Tanev
Hutton Zaitsev
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18 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
if we have to get an overpaid 3D then lets go for Zaitsav, at least he should come with prospect and/or picks
I'd take Zaitsev... but only as part of a larger deal with Kapanen.
TO is going to lose a fwd, we give them a cap break taking Z to get Kap at a good price.
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14 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:
Vancouver Canucks
Scoring by Defence -Starting 6
Projected 2019-2020 Season Actual 2018-2019 Season
Myers .......9.........22........31 Edler.............10..........24.........34
Gardiner....3.........27........30 Stecher...........2..........21.........23
Stecher......2........21.........23 Hutton............5..........15.........20
Hutton.......5.........15.........20 Tanev..............2..........10.........12
Tanev........2.........10.........12 Pouliot............3...........9..........12
Hughes.....2.........48.........50 (Projected) Del zotto.........1..........4.............5
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23 143 166 23 83 106
Approx. 59% scoring increase
Note..........I am almost to be inclined to think it is on the low side............
Myers would now be on the number 1 scoring line, and be 1st PP unit, which has to translate into more points
Gardiner would now be playing with Stecher and have more offensive freedom
Tanev would be playing 3rd pairing and would not have the same calibre of opponent
These 2 signings alone, would add a different dimension to our offense, not to mention add assets to the cupboard.......
I am in!......lots of holes in this argument, but I wanted to be positive!
Same amount of goals from the D corps isn't good enough.
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19 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said:
I think you push for Panarin and Karlsson because it is highly unlikely both will sign here. Hopefully you get one.
If Karlsson doesn’t sign:
1. Trade for Trouba
or
2. Trade for Ristolainen
or
3 Sign Myers
If Panarin doesn’t sign:
1. Sign Dzingel
or
2. Sign Ferland
or
3. Offer sheet
PuljujarviKapanen for3 over 34.2 over 4 (2nd round pick)I'd make this #1 if we don't get Panarin
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And not having top-end Canadian or physical players. Tired of team softness constantly being an issue.
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3 minutes ago, RRypien37 said:
The worst part is how they could've easily traded down and took him at 10-12?.
Disgusting. I legitimately feel sick.
Exactly.... damn
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Dammit JIm!!!! Trade down for Pettersson !
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Just now, SamJamIam said:
Oh snap! Stoked to see if we go Vilardi or Glass now
We trade down now
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If the Avs take Makar I bet we're trading down. Could work out really well
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Noonan... miss it Noonan
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Just now, Apricot said:
Oh my god I don't have all day here
Just be happy it's not as drawn out as the NFL draft. Holy crap is that excrutiating.
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9 minutes ago, wren223 said:
What do people think of the chance Benning moves back in the draft? He spoke about it on TSN radio the other day, and there was another thing about him mentioning it in Chicago either this morning or yesterday. How far back would people be willing to go? What does he charge to move back?
Unless we get a top-6 C back in a trade, I don't think we can drop past 8th and risk getting the 7th best C of the draft (I think it'll be all centres and Makar & Heisk in the top 8)
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2 minutes ago, Adarsh Sant said:
Not a chance.
If he isn't taken top 2, Dallas immediately gets 10-15 phone calls asking about the 3rd pick. No way he even makes it past 3.
Including from JB !
"Hello Dallas, about that Tanev and 2nd rounder for 3OA" ...
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3 minutes ago, theo5789 said:
Maybe Middlestadt will be like Kessel.
I'm worried he'd be more like Vesey ....not-sign and walk. We can't afford that.
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1 hour ago, ruilin96 said:
If Drafting Center, Draft at this order:
1). Vilardi
2). Glass
3). Mittlestadt
4). Petersson
If Drafting Defenseman:
1). Heiskanen
2). Lijegren
3). Makar
I explained earlier in another thread, I think Makar is overhyped, I believe Heiskanen and Lijegren are both better than Makar.
Flip Mittle and Pettersson for me.
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14 minutes ago, TheHitman said:
Good trade, would consider somehow moving up with 21 and getting Suzuki in the draft.
I'd rather take a chance on Kostin
[Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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He's not JV - young guy trying to find consistency - he's a long time veteran player who has had 3 years here.
Whether it was an issue with the coach, or pouting due to not getting handed a spot with the Sedins.... it's been 3 years of lacklustre effort and I just can't watch it let alone want it around the young core we have developing together.
By contrast, the jam that Ferland and Miller bring up front will make a huge difference (especially to JV's game)