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Give me a break on that last part, but the rest is true. Pitts needs to put more on the table.

His choice. Bet he changes his mind though.

Nobody will be whining about Lu not starting anyways, there will be something else to whine about by then.

Frankly I'm shocked. Weeks and months ago the only reasons I would have attributed to Luongo not getting the start would have been injury, or if he was on the trading block again. MG could silently be trying to move him again, but this would be way too obvious. Pretty weak actions towards him, he deserves to play tomorrow.

Yes the PP has been atrocious. We could still be winning games though if our top line was playing like a top line. Off topic though, I'm not wanting to start calling the Sedins out because they aren't the only ones having an off year. It was just a comment in response to a "what if" that Darius71 posed. Fair enough, I skimmed a lot of the pages as this thread loaded up pretty quicky, I missed any of those posts discussing more than Edler and Kesler. To answer your question: yes. I think if we don't get the perfect price for Kesler he won't be moved at the deadline, and if he is moved regardless, bust. Cue hate on for Gillis losing a great player the franchise developed for less than market value. If any of the reports are true mind you, and 20 teams have been phoning MG, several of them with serious intent who are Cup contenders, then the price isn't something we should be worried too much about. Hopefully Gillis knows how to manage a potential bidding war without becoming flustered and hasty over the next few days.

We likely both know that if the twins were in the top 15 in points this season we would have 10+ wins than we do now, and would be looking in on Wednesday as buyers instead of a core shift.

Worst comparison ever. Kesler has a high trade value right now. Agreed? He is very valuable to the Canucks team, yet after 2 and a 1/2 lackluster season something has to give. We aren't trading the twins, because we can't. So that's that. Next up? Kesler. We need to keep our young prospects so we can develop and deploy these guys into our roster over the next few seasons. Kesler gets us retooling, not rebuilding. Trading one player for up and coming talent does not equal a fire sale. Don't be ridiculous.

Triple finally obviously, one of the greatester albums:

Double finally, one of the greatest punk albums whether you like it or not.

Finally, some nice easy midnight listening:

Back with a vengeance with some decade old Irish punk rock.

I`m over her now. The power of single malt has shown me the way Word.

Blues spam. Maybe you`ll see a GIF of me drinking whisky, nodding approvingly, and contemplating women that I`ve loved and lost. Likely not. Stupid keyboard. Here`s a question mark for you all to enjoy. É

10:30 mark for peeps who don't think blues musicians know how to slay!

Grab some cookies on your way out.

For anyone who has not seen him live, as usual, the live tracks do no justice. Twice now I've seen him play with just an acoustic guitar and his powerful voice. No mic. No plugged in. He's a blues beast, and Canadian to boot eh!

Agreed, but it would help a team with a plethora of youngsters get immediate experience to pepper their lineup with.

It isn't undervaluing if the 3 assets you get in return are dynamite. Remember legit hockey trades that used to happen? They happened for a reason. Who the hell wants to gamble on a first round pick if they can get something with more experience and more ready to deliver help to the current squad? The format you just listed doesn't guarantee the Canucks anything except several chances at winning the trade in the long run, when the goal is to remain or regain elite competitive status right now. edit: undervaluing is stupid though, I can't argue with that and I personally never suggested trading each just for the sake of doing so.

As I said before, I love Kesler, on ice vision and passing were only fair qualities of his. Breakout speed and shots generated off of the rush dominated his Selke season no? Of course like any good player he will generate assists, ah god, now I'm just splitting hairs here. From the Philly standpoint I see them keeping Couturier over Schenn too for the reasons you listed. Who knows what Holmgren will ever do? Even Philly fans were WTF with Carter and Richards.

I agree with that line. As long as we are speculating though, that looks more like a young 2nd line than a 3rd. Even if they lack experience, I would rather them not be labelled as the checking or shutdown line if at all possible. Then again, 2 and 3 are just numbers and really have no relevance once the game starts. A man can dream.

It does seem fair, but I don't see Voracek playing into Torts system all that effectively like Simmonds would. Maybe I have him pegged wrong, I don't want to call him soft, but he is no Wayne. Voracek might slaughter with the Sedins though rendering that last point less meaningful. Although at 24 years old, I am wondering if he has a breakout year in the near future. There are never guarantees in getting maximum value via trades. Oh how I would love to tap the smart phone Gillis uses and listen in. If you figure the value is dead on, then isn't the return already maximized? I understand what you are saying, but do you think we can get a fair deal for one, and have someone overpay for the other?

That would be a fantastic problem to have yes? I say let them duke it out for the center slot, winner take all. Loser, if you can call it that, moves to wing. No shame in that, and no shame in having 2 centers on one line. The way I see it there is room for both at this point.

Thanks for the feedback. That's the impression I get too. Every team can't get everything they want in a trade all the time right? If Philly wants to improve from year to year, and of course they do, they need to keep their offensive potential. Kesler and Hansen >>>><<<< Simmonds and Couturier That looks roughly fair on paper. Nobody gets shafted. Nobody wins. A hockey trade. Replacing Couts with Schenn though...I haven't seen enough of Schenn last year and this to speak too much about him. One of my buds is a Philly fan and he loves Couturier, also, so do I from his days in the Q and brief AHL stint.

Wow. This coming from a career bus stop 3rd liner. Nice troll attempt.