Heretic Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Yeah...we've been talking about this on the VTX forum I also participate in... http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?360441-punk-bikers This post sums it up pretty well: "No matter which way you feel... is this what human society has become. Everyone should be ashamed.... this is not Mad Max's world. Man has become an animal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penaltykiller Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 His wife and child was in the car, and there were 50 of them looking for trouble. I don't think pulling out a gun would be the smartest choice in that situation. Everyone listens to the man with the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Everyone listens to the man with the gun. Especially 50 people he is pointing a gun at that also have guns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know the feeling. Not going to swarm a guy and freak him out with his family in that huge weapon though. yeah, well it only takes one biker to stop and others stop as well. Not sure if swarming is the right vernacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penaltykiller Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Especially 50 people he is pointing a gun at that also have guns... Step 1: Pack 12 gauge Step 2: Unload on some biker punks Step 3: ??? Step 4: PROFIT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Everyone listens to the man with the gun. Yeah, because 50 people on bikes that slashed his tires didn't have weapons on them.. He was with his family, not the smartest idea. And even if he did have a gun, I doubt he'd be able to take out 50 people, armed or unarmed, with a handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 yeah, well it only takes one biker to stop and others stop as well. Not sure if swarming is the right vernacular. It may not have been a "swarm" by definition(so sorry ) but you can bet the driver was feeling swarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penaltykiller Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Yeah, because 50 people on bikes that slashed his tires didn't have weapons on them.. He was with his family, not the smartest idea. And even if he did have a gun, I doubt he'd be able to take out 50 people, armed or unarmed, with a handgun. Doubt they had any fire power... He could just use slow time if they became a problem. They would likely just scatter though. Maybe one or two guys will glitch out and try to fist fight him when he has the gun but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 yeah, well it only takes one biker to stop and others stop as well. Not sure if swarming is the right vernacular. He cut in front of the SUV driver in the first place and put on his brakes for no reason. That initial biker was trying to start something. You talk about drivers having respect for bikers, but the guy that initially got bumped was a complete prick. He was in a perfectly safe spot to the side of the suv at first, but then he decides to go in front of the suv and leave little distance between himself and the suv and then he decides to throw on his brakes. I bet if the suv driver put on his brakes at the same time, one of the other guys would have run into the back of his suv and then they would have been mad at the suv driver for slowing down so quickly and the same thing would have probably happened. The chase and beating kinda show that they are the swarming type. Cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He cut in front of the SUV driver in the first place and put on his brakes. That initial biker was trying to start something. like something didn't precipitate that action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penaltykiller Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The bikers voted for Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 like something didn't precipitate that action. Something probably did, but even if someone, say, flips you the bird, still doesn't give you and your little gang the right to attack his vehicle, chase him down, and beat him up. Especially when he was trying to protect his family. I agree that a lot of drivers are total jerks and when you're on a bike or not, if somebody doesn't respect you on the road it would piss anyone off. But it doesn't justify their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I didn't see allot of licence plates on those bikes. To me they are there TOO provoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Something probably did, but even if someone, say, flips you the bird, still doesn't give you and your little gang the right to attack his vehicle, chase him down, and beat him up. Especially when he was trying to protect his family. I agree that a lot of drivers are total jerks and when you're on a bike or not, if somebody doesn't respect you on the road it would piss anyone off. But it doesn't justify their actions. Why do you say the biker flipped the driver the bird? It may have happened but believe me the most likely scenario is the driver did something (maybe small) but it started the chain reaction. The biker then (over)reacted and then we have this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I feel very sorry for the guy who got his spine snapped but do not blame the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Why do you say the biker flipped the driver the bird? It may have happened but believe me the most likely scenario is the driver did something (maybe small) but it started the chain reaction. The biker then (over)reacted and then we have this situation. Oh, it was just an example. We don't know what the driver did or what could've caused the whole situation but from what we can see from the video and the report, the driver did what anyone would and that's protect his family. Again, can't say for sure until full details from the investigation are released but for now, judging from what we do know, I have to say that the bikers were in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 from what i read from another site is that the bikers were trying to slow the car down so they could all get their little driving party together and 'control' the highway so to speak, but that guy wouldn't slow down, stop, pull over, etc. so they got pissed off at him? maybe incorrect, but that's the story i read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pibroch Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Why do you say the biker flipped the driver the bird? It may have happened but believe me the most likely scenario is the driver did something (maybe small) but it started the chain reaction. The biker then (over)reacted and then we have this situation. Thing is it was the bikers who did something in the first place, no matter how you look at it. Their mere presence on the road in such numbers, and they were sort of weaving between lanes so freely, probably freaked the driver out, as in he was probably afraid he was going to hit one of them. He may have done to antagonize the bikers, but really it's the bikers fault for being there in such numbers and not completely obeying the rules of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 like something didn't precipitate that action. So you're saying if something happened that you go and put your brakes on in front of someone with a massive vehicle? yeah, that makes perfect sense. These are just some tough guys that think they own the road because they have a bunch of backup. Sometimes you can't even look at a person without them wanting to start something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpcurtly Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Why do you say the biker flipped the driver the bird? It may have happened but believe me the most likely scenario is the driver did something (maybe small) but it started the chain reaction. The biker then (over)reacted and then we have this situation. Mistakes are going to happen...there's risks while riding. If you(not necessarily you personally) can't understand that, than you shouldn't be on a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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