Merci Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yes but currently do we have small skilled guys? The answer is no. We have the big ones. That being said, Ehlers is not small. Hes 6 foot which is pretty average. No youre wrong Delusion has set it for all of you when u think our team has enough big skilled players heres a hint we have 1 and a half Kassian and matthias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Our skill level has gone downhill and we only have one big guy that has skill. We need what Ehlers and Ritchie can bring. The simple thing to do would be to trade for Anaheim's pick and draft both. However, they both play LW and we already have Shink on LW. So that means we can only get one. I see Shink on our first line so that leaves a hole in the second line. I see Horvat centering that 2nd line so the question now becomes, who compliments Horvat better? I think that someone would be Ritchie. Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian maaan that is sick nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 No youre wrong Delusion has set it for all of you when u think our team has enough big skilled players heres a hint we have 1 and a half Kassian and matthias I guess Horvat, Jensen and Guance are all small and unskilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I guess Horvat, Jensen and Guance are all small and unskilled. Horvat is built a bit like Toews. He's not big but he is rugged and doesn't get pushed around. His size is very average. Jensen's size is also average but he isn't nearly physical enough Gaunce is big but I don't see him fit in the top 6. He'll probably be a very solid 3c So yea we don't have enough big-skilled guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Our skill level has gone downhill and we only have one big guy that has skill. We need what Ehlers and Ritchie can bring. The simple thing to do would be to trade for Anaheim's pick and draft both. However, they both play LW and we already have Shink on LW. So that means we can only get one. I see Shink on our first line so that leaves a hole in the second line. I see Horvat centering that 2nd line so the question now becomes, who compliments Horvat better? I think that someone would be Ritchie. Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian maaan that is sick nasty Speed would better on that line so Shink, or Ehler, Virt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Our skill level has gone downhill and we only have one big guy that has skill. We need what Ehlers and Ritchie can bring. The simple thing to do would be to trade for Anaheim's pick and draft both. However, they both play LW and we already have Shink on LW. So that means we can only get one. I see Shink on our first line so that leaves a hole in the second line. I see Horvat centering that 2nd line so the question now becomes, who compliments Horvat better? I think that someone would be Ritchie. Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian maaan that is sick nasty That line might work. Thing is if Ehler can't handle the rough stuff on the first or second line he can't play. If Ritchie can't raise his game enough for top two line duty he can still play on the bottom lines. Pretty much can't lose, same for Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Horvat is built a bit like Toews. He's not big but he is rugged and doesn't get pushed around. His size is very average. Jensen's size is also average but he isn't nearly physical enough Gaunce is big but I don't see him fit in the top 6. He'll probably be a very solid 3c So yea we don't have enough big-skilled guys Jensen is 6' 3'' and 202 as per the Canucks page, Gaunce is 6' 2" and 207, Horvat is 6' and 206. So Jensen is the tallest and Gaunce and Horvat are about the same weight, probably all three now because I think Jensen has put on some muscle since the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I do think Ritchie may be the way to go anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Speed would better on that line so Shink, or Ehler, Virt. I can see how that might work. Horvat and Kassian can create space for Ehlers to go to work, and they can clean up around the net. However, I envision a 2nd line that brings a completely different element than the first line. I see Ritchie, Horvat and Kassian bring skill, while destroying their oponents physically, and making defenders cringe every time they step on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Horvat is built a bit like Toews. He's not big but he is rugged and doesn't get pushed around. His size is very average. Jensen's size is also average but he isn't nearly physical enough Gaunce is big but I don't see him fit in the top 6. He'll probably be a very solid 3c So yea we don't have enough big-skilled guys Horvat has a larger frame than Toews and will be 220 in his prime.Same can be said of Jensen and he will be 215 in his prime. Ritchie is large, but like Gaunce will more than likely be a third liner. So no will do not need big and average skill like Ritchie we need elite skill; big or small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Horvat has a larger frame than Toews and will be 220 in his prime.Same can be said of Jensen and he will be 215 in his prime. Ritchie is large, but like Gaunce will more than likely be a third liner. So no will do not need big and average skill like Ritchie we need elite skill; big or small. If either of them hit those numbers, I'll staple my balls to a bruins jersey. I can guarantee you neither of them will hit those numbers. Especially Jensen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If either of them hit those numbers, I'll staple my balls to a bruins jersey. I can guarantee you neither of them will hit those numbers. Especially Jensen I can guarantee that Horvat is 210 right now without having to weight train. He is still a teenager by the time he hits his 20's he will easly put on 10 pounds of muscle. Jensen is the same at 6'3 and in his 20's his is already 205 pounds another 10 pounds for his height is very doable. Vladimir Tarasenko and Horvat have similar frames and Tarasenko is 6'0 219. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I guess Horvat, Jensen and Guance are all small and unskilled. Those are all mid sized players. With the addition of Ritchie I would agree that yes we finally have the size we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I can guarantee that Horvat is 210 right now without having to weight train. He is still a teenager by the time he hits his 20's he will easly put on 10 pounds of muscle. Jensen is the same at 6'3 and in his 20's his is already 205 pounds another 10 pounds for his height is very doable. Vladimir Tarasenko and Horvat have similar frames and Tarasenko is 6'0 219. Ryan nugent hopkins is the same height as tarasenko so I assume he'll have no problem putting on 48 pounds? They're not going to put on so much weight because they don't need it and it'll affect their skating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Those are all mid sized players. With the addition of Ritchie I would agree that yes we finally have the size we need. 6'2 1/2 and 230 with baby fat, just like Buf he will be asked to lose weight not gain it. He will be playing at 215 to 220 in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ryan nugent hopkins is the same height as tarasenko so I assume he'll have no problem putting on 48 pounds? They're not going to put on so much weight because they don't need it and it'll affect their skating Hopkins is small framed, not even close. 10 pounds is not a lot of weight and no it will not affect their skating when their frame can handle that weight. It is the same as saying a 5'9 165 pound teenage player is going to get slow being 185. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 6'2 1/2 and 230 with baby fat, just like Buf he will be asked to lose weight not gain it. He will be playing at 215 to 220 in the NHL. No he'll stay at a solid 226, he's already listed at 238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 6'2 1/2 and 230 with baby fat, just like Buf he will be asked to lose weight not gain it. He will be playing at 215 to 220 in the NHL. Buf needs to lose weight because it affects his mobility. Ritchie has no problem getting to where he needs to be. Bertuzzi, Lucic, and Pyatt were never asked to lose weight. Ritchie will not be asked to lose weight either. Why? Because they're power forwards and they use their weight to their advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Buf needs to lose weight because it affects his mobility. Ritchie has no problem getting to where he needs to be. Bertuzzi, Lucic, and Pyatt were never asked to lose weight. Ritchie will not be asked to lose weight either. Why? Because they're power forwards and they use their weight to their advantage He will be playing in the NHL under 230. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I 'm sorry, but you make me and not in a good way. Your understanding and evaluation of players = . Keep posting though, because it is fun to read what you write. " With Ehler I see a lot of fear" = ... and making thing up like "Ehlers constantly gets pulverized in junior" = Quite pathetic isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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