Two teenage boys used texting, online chats to plot brutal assault, murder of Kimberly Proctor

[JustJokinen!]

Shocking and disturbing doesn't begin to describe this.

We don't have strict enough punishments for crimes like this in Canada.

[Wetcoaster]

Hopefully both teens end up being charged as adults.

[Wetcoaster]

Shocking and disturbing doesn't begin to describe this.

We don't have strict enough punishments for crimes like this in Canada.

[JustJokinen!]

The only punishment for murder in Canada is life imprisonment. Since the death penalty has been abolished and has not been used in Canada for almost half a century (last execution December 1962) I am unsure what stricter punishment could be imposed.

[ronthecivil]

That is not the law. But you already knew that, right?

[ronthecivil]

The only punishment for murder in Canada is life imprisonment. Since the death penalty has been abolished and has not been used in Canada for almost half a century (last execution December 1962) I am unsure what stricter punishment could be imposed.

[Twas]

Actually read the whole thing...just disgusting. Can't really even imagine the pain and torture she must of went through. Sickening how people can go through with that and actually murder/rape someone.

[Wetcoaster]

What I am referring to is the length of a life term in Canada.

10 years for youths and 25 for adults, is this correct?

This is what I disagree with, to me that is not "life."

[aGENT]

Really? Life without any chance of parole.

What are the odds of getting dangerous offender status on these guys?

[Wetcoaster]

Really? Life without any chance of parole.

What are the odds of getting dangerous offender status on these guys?

[Wetcoaster]

And by "life" I assume you mean ACTUAL life and not the idiotic 25 year "life" of our judicial system?

[aGENT]

There is no 25 year sentence for murder. The only available sentence a judge may impose for murder is life imprisonment.

[JustJokinen!]

The adult sentence for murder is life imprisonment.

Under the YCJA the maximum sentence is 10 years with a maximum of 6 years in custody and four years on supervised release.

The majority of convicted murderers die in prison and Canada is only slightly behind the US in years spent in prison for those sentenced to life without parole (Canada 28.4 years and the US 29 years) and way ahead of the US for murderers sentenced to life with a possibility of parole by about 10 years (Canada 28.4 years and the US 18 years).

Canada and the US are miles ahead of other Western democracies.

In comparison to most other Western democracies, sentences of imprisonment in Canada are lengthy and have been increasing in recent years. A 1999 international comparison of the average time served in custody by an offender on a life sentence for first degree murder shows that Canada exceeds the average time served in all countries surveyed including the United States , with the exception of U.S. offenders serving life sentences without benefit of parole.

Average Time Spent in Custody Australia 14.8 years United States Belgium 12.7 years life without parole 29 years England 14.4 years life with parole 18.5 years New Zealand 11 years Scotland 11.2 years Canada 28.4 years Sweden 12 years

http://www.justice.g.../doc_31690.html

[aGENT]

This is news to me, thanks for the info.

Why would I think it was a maximum of 25 years?

[*vInTaGe*]

this makes me sick.

[JustJokinen!]

I blame local media.

[Wetcoaster]

So 25 years is just when they become eligible for parole?

[Wetcoaster]

This is news to me, thanks for the info.

Why would I think it was a maximum of 25 years?

[D-Money]

"he had dreamed about killing someone ever since he was young," although he admitted to the friend that "it didn't feel like what he thought it would."

[ronthecivil]

As the figures for years incarcerated noted above indicate it seems unnecessary

I hear Vegas is giving 12-1 odds.

What do you figure?

Maybe this will help -

Dangerous offender status applies to adult offenders and does not apply to any persons convicted of murder since they already have been sentenced to life imprisonment.