J.I.A.H.N Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 So, as I thumb my way through the numerous trade proposals, I started wondering who would be greater in trade Lui or Cory? So my question is just that . If you were MG and "could" trade either one, which one would bring you the most? And What would it be? Please remember I said "could". Just for the record, I think Cory is worth 2- 1st or a 1st and a great prospect, etc, and I really don't have a really good grasp on what Lui is worth. Probably, due to his age, and recent history, about the same as Cory's. But that is just my confused opinion. Note* If you look at Lui's stats they are crazy good over the past 6 years, but Cory's younger and has some great stats himself, albeit over a shorter time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It'd be in the Canucks best interest to try and drop Luongo in the summer over Schneider but there's a fat chance of that happening. Their value is probably about the same...Luongo is more proven but has the big contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith80 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was also thinking of this just earlier today, no lie. I would say that Schneider's value would be as high if not higher than Luo's, simply because of his age and his salary. In any league with a Cap like the NHL, young players on cheap contracts, especially ones with such amazing potential, are worth their weight in Gold. It isn't to say that Schneider is better than Luongo, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jma7 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'd say value is similar, but schneider has slightly more due to his upside. Although Cory is unproven as a starter, he has been very good last year and this year in pretty much every game he's played. He also has a new contract up for renewal which is going to be cheaper than Lu's and less committing in the number of years making his value I think a bit better. He also has more years ahead of him and won't retire or decline as soon as Lu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CHodgson9 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Luongo is more valuable - I've re-watched Game 7 against CHI, his shutouts against the Bs, and I watched him make big stops during the gold medal game. He has proven game-stealing abilities and the goaltending position is unique in which some goalies have their best years in their later years (Hasek/Thomas for example). This message board totally bashes the BEST GOALIE we've ever had in this franchise's history. The nights we get lit up, the team in front of him just doesn't battle anywhere near their capabilities and they hang him out to dry. While I love having Cory Schneider on this team, he is a more attractive option to teams who are in need for younger franchise goalies (Edmonton/Tampa/NYI/NJ) and his contract allows for more flexibility. Luongo's contract is actually a lot better than people give it credit for - it was front loaded at a reasonable cap hit ($5.3M) meaning the cheapest years are at the tail end of the contract. For rebuilding teams, or teams needing to hit the cap floor this would be VERY attractive to an owner and GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It'd be in the Canucks best interest to try and drop Luongo in the summer over Schneider but there's a fat chance of that happening. Their value is probably about the same...Luongo is more proven but has the big contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangler696969 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Luongo has a NTC so hes not leaving unless he goes to a team that he would play for. probably either Montreal, Florida, or a winnng team like Detroit. The only problem for him is that nobody will pick up that contract. nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 OK Posters Please read this, I am not saying trade either goalie, I am asking for their value in a trade. In players or picks. ( PS, I am not saying trade all goalie either! LOL ) I have just read enough comments from Lui bashers and Schneirder underestimaters, that I was actually just wondering what was what. The same question could be asked about any player/players in the NHL ( and does regularly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdawg Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 OK Posters Please read this, I am not saying trade either goalie, I am asking for their value in a trade. ( PS, I am not saying trade all goalie either! LOL ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancityBeast Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 ...At age 33 (in April) he is not going to get any better and is likely to begin an age-related decline very soon. (I know some goaltenders remain very good into their late 30s, but that is unusual and does not seem likely for Luongo.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm fine with either goalie and will stand by whoever MG chooses to keep (assuming both don't stay here, which would be fabulous). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Bunnies Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think there will be a higher chance Luongo would wave his no-trade if Canucks won the cup this season if the Canucks organization do ask him to wave it. However if we don't win the cup, I don't think he'll be willing to go elsewhere since we're still going to be strong contenders for the next couple to few years and you can tell Luongo wants to win. I think moving Luongo would be the better option (assuming he accepts a trade). There's a risk in keeping Luongo for the future, he's already arguably somewhat inconsistent at times, known for allowing some weak goals here and there (not bashing him). If he starts going on a decline any time soon, his value would drop significantly and would be nearly impossible to move his contract out. If we were to move him this off-season, I think we'd still get a good return. He still has years left in him and would be a goaltender some teams would want. Maybe there will be teams like Florida that need to reach the cap floor and needing a goalie would take Luongo, like people thought Campbell was impossible to move with his cap-hit but Florida took him and he's making an impact with them. If we do trade Luongo, I think we could re-sign Schneider to a 3 or 4 year contract ranging from 3 to 3.5M per. That seems like a reasonable contract length and price for Schneider. I just hope Gillis' stays away from really long-term contracts like Luongo's in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goal-ghost Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 how about this; shop luongo so as to make other gms believe you value schneider above him. then, after that's common knowledge, feign a reluctant trigger pull on schneider for some serious assets. or keep both.. somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Btw. Tim Thomas is 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I find Schneider has such good positioning on the type of goals Luongo let's in where he flops and covers no area of the net because he's so aggressive. Schneider on the other hand will stay between the puck and the goal line and keep it out. He doesn't falter just keeps his positioning and stops the puck. As well Luongo's 5 million would be better spent on Shea Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becomelegendary Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Trade luongo. That contract is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-ROD Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 If I was MG, I wouldn't trade either 'cause the deadline has past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Btw. Tim Thomas is 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklasjensen46 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 i still hope ginger stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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