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#241 Johnny Debt

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

I came for the lolz and they delivered, highlighted by this gem:

However, I believe in God because I believe that to be the most rational belief. If I didn't think belief in God was a rational belief, I would naturally
no longer believe in him. Pretty simple?



The problem arguing with theists is,

1. They re-define words
2. They ignore basic principles of logic ie burden of proof

I respect your right to believe in a God or Gods, but please don't attempt to argue.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:47 AM

What does separation of church and state mean to you as it pertains to the United States ?


the virginia statute for religious freedom
the rule of law
the virginia statute for religious freedom : the road to the first amendment .
many colonists came to america to escape religious persecution. but colonies soon adopted laws that limited relgious freedom and forced people to pay taxes to support churches they did not believe in . dissenters started protesting to abolish these laws .an important change came in 1786 when virginia passed the statute for religious freedom. drafted by thomas jefferson the new law served as a model for the first amendment . it established a clear seperation of church and state and was one of jeffersons proudest accomplishments .
bill No. 82 the fight to seperate church and state .
in the autumn of 1776 , virginia's new house of delegates met and welcomed back thomas jefferson , jefferson was 33 years old and already an important figure and had been a delegate to the continental conference and was the author of the declaration of independence . now back in virginia jefferson decided to create a new government for his state . in october he proposed a complete revision of his states laws . key amongst the laws jefferson believed needed to be rewritten were the restriction on religious freedom . jefferson strongly believed not only in religious freedom of worship but also an end to all control and support of religion by the state .

after 2 years of work , jefferson and committee of revisors presented a list of 126 proposed laws to the virginia assembly in june 1779 . many of the new laws were minor changes , but bill no 82was a major change . drafted by jefferson , the bill removed all links between religion and government . in a lengthy preamble , the bill laid powerful reasons for de-establishing religion , it is , jefferson wrote ,"sinful and tyrannical" to compel a man to furnish contributions of money , "for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors ........our civil rights" he wrote "have no dependence on our religious opinions , any more than our opinions on physics and geometry " . be it therfore enacted , the bill stated .
that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious
worship, place, or ministry whatsoever.....nor shall otherwise suffer on
account of his religious freedoms or belief , but that all men shall be free to
profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion

a lot of historians agree , that this was the first glimmerings of true religious freedom any where in the world to that point in time .

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#243 Mr. Ambien

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:30 AM

You consider being handed a book brainwashing? My god, nobody is safe...

Kids are oh so fragile.. :frantic:

I suppose people forget the types of social indoctrination and peer pressure from things not religion-related that kids go through, I also doubt that being handed a bible will harm the way a child turns out. This is coming from someone who was raised in two broad sects of Christianity, read through the bible more times than can remember, and turned out agnostic. Children always undergo proselytising from other children, as long as it's not being passed off from a public school itself as education, leave it alone, there's no point to such embellished, alarmist attitude about it.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:10 AM

I didn't read anything about students handing out bibles, I read about Gideon International doing it. Huh, must be reading a French version. We both know this kind of crap lasts as long as Korans or Satanic Bibles are not the holy book being handed out. And you also make it seem like kids can't talk about their religion - I'm pretty sure freedom of religion is still applicable to kids here. What was that word you defined earlier? Misconstrue? Yeah, don't do that.

And yeah, xenophobic Christians are totally something to laugh about.


Kids are oh so fragile.. :frantic:

I suppose people forget the types of social indoctrination and peer pressure from things not religion-related that kids go through, I also doubt that being handed a bible will harm the way a child turns out. This is coming from someone who was raised in two broad sects of Christianity, read through the bible more times than can remember, and turned out agnostic. Children always undergo proselytising from other children, as long as it's not being passed off from a public school itself as education, leave it alone, there's no point to such embellished, alarmist attitude about it.


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A straw man is a straw man is a straw man is a straw man.

You're my favorite atheist who doesn't understand he's an atheist. :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

:picard:

A straw man is a straw man is a straw man is a straw man.

You're my favorite atheist who doesn't understand he's an atheist. :lol:

Yep and according to my Christian family I'm a Christian who has just been led astray.

Religion is religion is religion. :)

(Agnostic)

The sooner you figure out you're not as smart as you think you are, the better off you'll be.

Edited by zaibatsu, 11 April 2012 - 12:59 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:17 PM

Yep and according to my Christian family I'm a Christian who has just been led astray.

Religion is religion is religion. :)

(Agnostic)

The sooner you figure out you're not as smart as you think you are, the better off you'll be.


Your family also thinks Jesus died to save you from an inherited sin, so there's that. I wouldn't put much faith into what they have to say. A dictionary on the other hand serves as a good standard for effective communication with adults.

I can see why you went to business school, it's the same reason I dropped out of business school. You know, people keep telling me on this forum how stupid I am (just refer to my sig for an example). :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

Your family also thinks Jesus died to save you from an inherited sin, so there's that. I wouldn't put much faith into what they have to say. A dictionary on the other hand serves as a good standard for effective communication with adults.

I can see why you went to business school, it's the same reason I dropped out of business school. You know, people keep telling me on this forum how stupid I am (just refer to my sig for an example). :lol:

But Jesus is in the dictionary!

http://dictionary.re...rowse/jesus?s=t

Je·sus
   [jee-zuhs, -zuhz] Jesus Christ, Christ Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth.born 4? b.c., crucified a.d. 29?, the source of the Christianreligion.
2.
( “the Son of Sirach” ), the author of the Apocryphal book ofEcclesiasticus, who lived in the 3rd century b.c.

3.
Christian Science . the supreme example of God'snature expressed through human beings.


So much for that standard. :(

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:34 PM

Yay atheists! :lol: :lol:


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

Atheism in it's own way is just another religion.

You have the basic religions and atheism and all the activists seem to dedicate a lot of time and effort into spreading the word of their beliefs on everyone else while bashing the others views, it's really all the same.

Nah, I disagree with you. I was raised by a christian mother and had to attend her cult until I was old enough to say no and mean it, that was around age 13. My whole family and most of my friends are religiously inclined. I have been forced, and I would say every day of my life, to hear, see, or otherwise come into contact with real religious ideology. Be it a prayer at mealtime, or in some way shape or form somebody talking jesus to me every day of my llfe that I choose to interact with my family and the friends I have that are religious. Now, when I leave the house and drive for 10 minutes in any direction, there is a giant cross blighting the natural beauty of my countryside taller than most any other building or advertisement in sight, or allowed by city hall. Next I get to work, where I earn money, which is taxed ....and in a roundabout way goes to helping these religions, in that they don't pay tax for the road that leads to their pews, or give money to the government that supports their existence or help pay the policing bill that guarantees their rights are not violated.

In all of this, I am usually quiet enough about my disgust, but when, on the odd day I interject my opinion that there is no skygod and every religion is a cult that should be taxed like a corporation...then i am told that I am an Athiest and that My Faith is just like a religion.

No. I have no faith. You can call that what you want, but to say that my non belief in a sky fairy who was his own father and although all powerful had to kill himself to forgive us...(*now that is just insane) is somehow akin to your cult and therefore I am just as bad as religious folks...that is a non starter of an argument, but out of curiosity, if it was an acceptable rebuke of 'athiests', then what does it mean? Religions are A Okay cuz Athiests are a cult too? Seems like a bad concept.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

But Jesus is in the dictionary!

http://dictionary.re...rowse/jesus?s=t

Je·sus
   [jee-zuhs, -zuhz] Jesus Christ, Christ Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth.born 4? b.c., crucified a.d. 29?, the source of the Christianreligion.
2.
( “the Son of Sirach” ), the author of the Apocryphal book ofEcclesiasticus, who lived in the 3rd century b.c.

3.
Christian Science . the supreme example of God'snature expressed through human beings.


So much for that standard. :(


I didn't realize we were discussing the words "atheist" and "agnostic" not being in a dictionary. I thought we were talking about definitions of such. You don't understand what I meant when I said "good standard". Keep trying?

Yay atheists! :lol: :lol:


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Edited by Scorpio Ego, 12 April 2012 - 01:00 AM.

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