aGENT Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Of course there are. So kid I just want to get some background. Were you ever a member of a church ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Of course they aren't .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woot Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Why? Isn't that why they have religious studies classes, to talk about these books? Although in your aims for simply further educating the children, I think we could both agree the best versions of holy books would be something like "Skeptic's Annotated Bible". Children should be presented with a secular view on all holy books, equally. That is, if the goal is to educate and not proselytize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Maybe. But who's going to provide them for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Well your aims are to educate, and you can't educate children just by giving them a particular version of a widely interpreted bible. Are you just settling for what's free, regardless of educational value? Despite the potential for conflict that arises to boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Perhaps they should give your version as well... what is your "version" of the Bible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I gave you the opportunity to clarify what you meant, and you respond with insults. Using the word Faiths in this context: This is the definition that applies: Different faiths? Yes: different systems of religous belief. If you are attempting to use this definition: Then your sentence makes some sense, if you are only qualifying the Belief in god and religion in the widest sense. About as much sense as an anarchist saying "Dictatorship, Monarchy, Democracy: Different manifestations of government". Actually this sentence makes more sense, as I'm not saying "the same government" like you say "the same faith". If this is what you mean, it doesn't really say anything interesting. It's wordplay that doesn't address anything significant. If you review some of my other posts you will see I have attempted to move on from this. For your claim that I am "out of my league" and "showing ignorance of another religion" when I said simply: is hilarious. You obviously know next to nothing about the founding and development of two of the most important movements in World History: Christianity and Islam. I suggest a tiny bit of research into the peaceful spread of Christianity before it was amalgamated into the political structure of the Roman Empire by Constantine, and the violent military conquest that Muhammed led himself. The New Testament and Koran would be helpful to. I've also don't deny positive aspects of other Faiths. This I have also said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 while their cynical brand of humour tickle's my funny bone most of the time, i would hardly call them keen intellects . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I would, they make up one of the best topicsl satire acts in the western world right now and it takes a great deal of intellect to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 if they had come up with those idea's themselves i might start to entertain that notion , but they are merely copying the format of yes minister . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Yes Minister didn't invent anything, fake news commentary has been around since at least the 60s, it's been a staple of Canada's comedy scene for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 did i say yes minister invented that particular brand of humour , no i did not . i said they copied that format ,and you have added weight to my argument by pointing out others have been doing this for a lot longer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I didn't add anything to your argument. Whether they invented the format or not has absolutely nothing to do with how good they are at what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woot Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Well your aims are to educate, and you can't educate children just by giving them a particular version of a widely interpreted bible. Are you just settling for what's free, regardless of educational value? Despite the potential for conflict that arises to boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Yes, I am. If the Gideons are willing to provide the books, let them. If you think leafing through the Bible is going to produce a generation of Rick Santorums, you're paranoid well beyond reason. And if not, what's the worst that could happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 From what I've heard, these bibles end up littering parking lots at schools they're handed out, not teaching kids the good word. On top of creating room for conflict, it's also a waste of paper. Point of education is not to throw whatever you can at kids, as you're proposing by settling for whatever's free. You don't teach kids chemistry by giving them chemicals to experiment with unsupervised, why would you educate about religion any different? Leave it for religious studies class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I have to commend you Scorpio. It's been awhile since i've seen someone get trolled this hard in a thread and not respond in kind. For the life of me I cant understand why its allowed to continue but I admire your restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Not a fan of religion, but this is just juvenile and silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 In addition to Bibles, the group offered to collect other religious texts, including the Quran, and any books written by prominent pastors, including Joel Osteen and Rick Warren. During the event, Atheist Agenda collected five Bibles, one Encyclopedia of Islam, and one Quran. The group plans to donate the books to a local library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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