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#1 Robongo

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

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No brainer in my oppinion. Schneids played well yesterday and the team played better in front of him, but that could also be attributed to the fact they were down 2-0 in the series. You gotta go with the man you got signed for the next 7 years or whatever it is. Sink or swim with your number one man.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:17 PM

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Disagree. Contract means nothing next to winning.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

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They owe it to him I think, he's done so much for this club and has been the best goaltender we've had in the history of this franchise. They tried to Schneider experiment and failed
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

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dunno about that

lu 7 goals against [8 with emptynetter]...team lackluster

schneider 1 goal against...team givin'er

the past should be immaterial...this is the now

Edited by wendythirteenthrashers, 16 April 2012 - 12:23 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

They owe it to him I think, he's done so much for this club and has been the best goaltender we've had in the history of this franchise. They tried to Schneider experiment and failed


I'd like to fail like that too. Even with Brodeur and Roy at the same time in net we would have lost. 0 goals !!!!!!!
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

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They owe it to him I think, he's done so much for this club and has been the best goaltender we've had in the history of this franchise. They tried to Schneider experiment and failed

Schneider let in one goal? Luongo has let in 4 each game? i know he's been playing well but we need to keep schneider and get rid of luongo . Luongo is just going to get older schneides is going to be in his prime!
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

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We could have been down 4-0 if it wasn't for Schneider. I'm a Lu and Schneider fan, I don't prefer one over the other however there were some saves that Schneider made to keep it a 0-0 game and I'm sure Luongo wouldn't have been able to stop it. (eg. 3 on 1 where Schneider lunged laterally and was still upright to get a shoulder on the puck whereas Luongo would have lunged but would have had the whole top of the net open due to his tendency to laying down on the ice.)

Even the LAK goal wasn't Schneider's fault.. Edler having no coverage on Brown who was all alone in front of the net only to rebound the game winner... ridiculous.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

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What makes Lou #1?????? his stats are miles behind Schneids !! 2.41 GAA vs 1.96...you don;t win with sentiment !!
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

Doesn't matter whose in net, whether its Luongo, Schneider, McLean, R. Brodeur, or Garrett. If you don't score a damn goal, you ain't gonna win.

Right now, Pittsburgh and us are in the same both but we both have problems that the other team could solve. Pens are scoring goals but gettting no goaltending. We are getting goaltending but no goals. If we could pull a switch, we'd both be up 3-0
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:52 PM

No brainer in my oppinion. Schneids played well yesterday and the team played better in front of him, but that could also be attributed to the fact they were down 2-0 in the series. You gotta go with the man you got signed for the next 7 years or whatever it is. Sink or swim with your number one man.


No you dont you must be a Troll, keep things just the way they are....with the goalies for now
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

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They owe it to him I think, he's done so much for this club and has been the best goaltender we've had in the history of this franchise. They tried to Schneider experiment and failed


Where do you get off? The CS experiment failed because the team in front if him simply cannot score in the playoffs dating back to last years SCF. He let in one goal for crying out loud.

I have to agree with a poster above. The team plays better in front of CS and IMO he is the better goalie of the two. Flame me if you want but his numbers don't lie this season and regardless of how good Luongo has been for the team in recent years, I'd much rather keep Schneider.

Btw the team doesn't "owe" Luongo anything.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:54 PM

Doesn't matter whose in net, whether its Luongo, Schneider, McLean, R. Brodeur, or Garrett. If you don't score a damn goal, you ain't gonna win. Right now, Pittsburgh and us are in the same both but we both have problems that the other team could solve. Pens are scoring goals but gettting no goaltending. We are getting goaltending but no goals. If we could pull a switch, we'd both be up 3-0


agreed no goal then you can t win but I feel more will happen with Corey in net one game left...
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

How many dumb ignorant fans throw comparisons around when obviously Lu plays more games.

News flash hockey noobs: luongo is still better than Schneider. You would see this if Schneids gets full minutes but Schneids has potential to be just as good or better. But for now only a hockey noob says Schneids> Lu .
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If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:59 PM

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How many dumb ignorant fans throw comparisons around when obviously Lu plays more games.

News flash hockey noobs: luongo is still better than Schneider. You would see this if Schneids gets full minutes but Schneids has potential to be just as good or better. But for now only a hockey noob says Schneids> Lu .


Throwing the word "noob" around really solidifies how special you really are, Ed.

In case you didn't hear me the first time, Schneider is better than Luongo.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:01 PM

this is going to be one tough choice for av.
  • go with lou and risk being fired for not using the better of the two that you have.
  • go with cs and risk not using your number 1
based on what i have seen, cs is your best chance for winning.
but if you loose, what choice saves av's job?
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

Lou plays more games...so...should be sharper and have better stats...not worse ! Stats are a measurement of performance and you can skew them however you want but his 2.41 GAA vs Corys 1.96 is miles apart !!
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

How many dumb ignorant fans throw comparisons around when obviously Lu plays more games.

News flash hockey noobs: luongo is still better than Schneider. You would see this if Schneids gets full minutes but Schneids has potential to be just as good or better. But for now only a hockey noob says Schneids> Lu .

your the same guy that claims lou needs to play lots or he gets cold on the bench.
cory comes in cold all the time and does fine.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:06 PM

I go with Schneider on Wednesday
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:06 PM

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How many dumb ignorant fans throw comparisons around when obviously Lu plays more games.

News flash hockey noobs: luongo is still better than Schneider. You would see this if Schneids gets full minutes but Schneids has potential to be just as good or better. But for now only a hockey noob says Schneids> Lu .


This argument is pretty stupid. If Luongo played 1 game, he still gave up 4 goals. If Luongo played the same amount of games as Schneider did in the season, his numbers would even be worse because of his terrible start in October/November.

I don't see where people are going with this.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:08 PM

How many dumb ignorant fans throw comparisons around when obviously Lu plays more games.

News flash hockey noobs: luongo is still better than Schneider. You would see this if Schneids gets full minutes but Schneids has potential to be just as good or better. But for now only a hockey noob says Schneids> Lu .


Hey man, I totally agree with you. I've been saying this all along, Schneider is one hell of a goalie. But there's only one way we could throw a comparison out there between the two is if Schneids play over 60 or even 70 games a year. Be it in vancouver or anywhere else. But, everyone just making comparisons between our starter and back-up goalie is just useless. Everyone though raycroft was gonna be one hell of a goalie, but you know what, when he got the starter's role in toronto, he sucked!

Don't get me wrong here, Im not trying to say Cory is gonna end up like that, cuz i really hope not, I wish him all the success in the world but making comparisons between a PROVEN Starter and a PROVEN Backup is just irrelevant.

Let Cory play 60 or even 70+ games in a few seasons and we'll see how he holds up. Then I will agree with the people saying, yea cory is better if he proves to be....

Just my 2 cents worth....
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:10 PM

Lou plays more games...so...should be sharper and have better stats...not worse ! Stats are a measurement of performance and you can skew them however you want but his 2.41 GAA vs Corys 1.96 is miles apart !!


playing 60+ games with the pressure of an entire city scrutinizing your every move should be easier than playing 20+ games with significantly less pressure. another armchair GM who probbaly works at the local carwash.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

Lou plays more games...so...should be sharper and have better stats...not worse ! Stats are a measurement of performance and you can skew them however you want but his 2.41 GAA vs Corys 1.96 is miles apart !!


Lu plays more games so his number should be better? What kind of logic is that? There is no way Schneider would be able to keep up those kind of numbers over the course of the season. He's only played two games in a row a handful of times. He's got the potential to be better than Lu but anyone saying he is there now is kidding themselves.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

Btw the team doesn't "owe" Luongo anything.

the team does owe Luongo something....10 million a year for the next few years.
i bet if that contract was based on results we would see a fire lit under lou and nothing would get past him.
lou your a gambilin man.....wan put your contract on the table?

Edited by canidiot, 16 April 2012 - 01:17 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

playing 60+ games with the pressure of an entire city scrutinizing your every move should be easier than playing 20+ games with significantly less pressure. another armchair GM who probbaly works at the local carwash.


You're just giving an excuse of why he plays poor. If he can't handle the pressure, what is he doing here? This is Vancouver. There's going to be pressure regardless. You think Schneider doesn't have pressure when he's constantly put in big games? What about yesterday in a must win game?
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:14 PM

the team does owe Luongo something....10 million a year for the next few years.


Ahh yes how could I forget that..
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:23 PM

Robongo..its only your opinion that Schneids cannot stand up to a full schedule. Its yet to be proven or disproved, but at this point in time he is outplaying Luongo at every opportunity. Luongo starts poorly in the year...had another bad spell and has had the benefit of Schneids relieving him over 20 games this year. If you noticed...Luongo got pulled almost once every ten games this season ..a pretty high stat wouldn't you say ? he may be #1 in your mind..and wear that #...but hes #2 out of 2 goalies on this team !!
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

I go with Louuuuu


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

You're just giving an excuse of why he plays poor. If he can't handle the pressure, what is he doing here? This is Vancouver. There's going to be pressure regardless. You think Schneider doesn't have pressure when he's constantly put in big games? What about yesterday in a must win game?


I was implying to smurf who was putting too much stock in stats. I think Schneider is a great goalie but to people claiming hes head and shoulders above Lu is just false for now n e way.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:01 PM

If Daniel Sedin and Schneider play game 4, Canucks still have a chance to win the series! I'm a big Luongo fan but I think playing Schneider in net is the right thing to do as he can handle pressure better than Lu!

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

Lu Or Schneids - We Know That L.A. can't get more than 4 goals... So if the Canucks can get more than 4 goals which they can do or get close to doing (2010 PlayOffs - Canucks scored 7 in one game) than victory should be assured no matter how many we let in from 1 - 3! Lu & Schneids... Do Your Best Out There And Hopefully the Canucks Offence Will Repay You!
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