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#1 Herberts Vasiljevs

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

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There's absolutely no denying it. The Vancouver had a disappointing season. Just simply, disappointing. The team had themselves a relatively short summer after an astounding and heroic run to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. The Canucks didn't have 'IT'. This had nothing to do with a controversy or problems in the locker room, and I too believe it wasn't the cup run hangover either.

How do I start? To cram a lot into a simple explination, we were banged up and to an extent, not very conditioned. Ryan Kesler had offseason surgery all the way into July, where it was painfully obvious that he wanted to play ASAP, so he came back only 5 games into the 'reg' season. I do believe he was rushed. Dan Hamhuis needed an abdominal procedure done as well. I had also noticed, the two players Canucks fans had been bashing the most: Mason Raymond and Manny Malhotra, had both come back from absolutely horrific career threatening injuries. I read in an article from 'The Province', and Raymond told the media that hockey is 70% mental... Raymond's speed was there, had his quick release back, but a Raymond with no confidence, wouldn't drive to the net and be a dangerous scorer like he was 2 years ago. As for Manny, you couldn't exactly say the speed was there and the grittiness we ALL know he can bring, but his hand-eye was there, and his face-off % being top-5 in the regular season and TOP-3 in the playoffs proves it. I am totally against the fact that the reasons why these two were as disappointing as they were was because of Mason's vertebra injury and Manny's eye injury (to a small extent), I believe it's more coming off to very emotional seasons and learning new lessons that had all come so fast. It's also important to note that these two both missed training camp, so they both had to spend a large portion of the season playing catch-up. Emotion played a HUGE factor this season for some individuals more than others.

Okay, Kesler, Edler and Bieksa; three of some of our most important players had been injured down the stretch of this season and playing injured. They are our core guys! The ones Gillis locked up (hoping Edler soon) to be the guys that this team depends on in the next few years. We DON"T need a team overhaul. I do have to admit, and pretty well unrelated to their severe injuries, MayRay and Manny don't necessarily fit into these teams plans. Gillis said in his season-end press conference, he wants this team to become younger and stronger. But, however, we've seen these guys at their best, of course when they hadn't been injured. Heck, Raymond's not even in his prime yet. Frankly, I believe no of these guys are going anywhere during the draft or anywhere neat the beginning of the summer. I believe that a few months of rest, time to rehabilitate, time to spend with their families (Raymond not to long ago had a new child), and deal with their own personal lives will do these to particular individuals and the team as a WHOLE a lot of good. Have a good summer, be ready for training camp, and we'll see what happens from there. Fortunately, we are blessed, and I mean BLESSED to have one of the smartest GM's in the whole National Hockey League, and he thinks everything through thoroughly. Wait this off-season out, re-evaluate Mason Raymond and Manny Malhotra, then decide on their fates.

I've always said this: 'You can NEVER have enough pass first players.' There's proof to that. Look at the Penguins with Crosby and Malkin. They are two of the league's most elite of them all. They are wonderful hockey players with great sense, we know they can score, but their line-mates like the James Neals and the Pascal Dupuis' complete a signature top-6 line in hockey. They all have astounding hockey players who create scoring chances with pretty yet simple plays and finished of whether you snipe the puck like Steven Stamkos or go to the net like a vintage Ryan Smyth. Same goes with the Sedin line. The Sedins (both) are wonderful playmakers who can also finish and have Burrows to feed the puck to. As wonderful as these two are, Kesler and Booth look like misfits without their playmaker that the desperately need. Both of these players have scored at least 60+ points in their young careers, but they're both 'do it yourself' type of players. We've seen flashes of magic with the AMEX line with Higgins along their side, but let's face it, Higgins is a versatile player who gives it his all every shift making the players around him better, but, he gives our third line another dimension that makes it better than anybody's in the NHL, and he's not a true playmaker. This second line we have needs it!

Everybody underestimates Roberto Luongo's trade value. Yes, it's true, Schneider can get us something magical, but we can get great things out of trading Luongo. GREAT things. Look at the evidence: In 2007, the Oilers acquired Anaheim's 1st round pick that year, former top-10 pick Ladislav Smid, Joffery Lupul, and a conditional pick all for just Chris Pronger to be sent the other way to the Anaheim Ducks. In 2008, the Penguins landed Hossa for Colby Armstrong, Erik Chritensen, (at the time, before injury bug hit him) super-prospect Angelo Esposito, and the 'Pens' first rounder that year. I believe our best trading partner is with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Why not? Luongo's wife's from there. It's also where his family lives. Tampa Bay also has tremendous assets. They have some wonderful roster players, including a 10th overall pick, and I believe they wouldn't be to afraid to deal this pick because they got another first rounder out of the three-way Kyle Quincey trade and they have a few second and third rounders. I can see the Vancouver Canucks trading Roberto Luongo straight up for Teddy Purcell and their 10th overall draft pick this year. Teddy Purcell his a playmaking 6'2 201 pound right winger who ranked 37th in the NHL in points this year. He's a wonderful player for the Lightning with great vision and playmaking ability that the Booth-Kesler line desperately need. We'd be getting even better and even younger with a trade like this.

If, this is IF all goes well for Malhotra and Raymond this offseason and give Raymond a (FAIR) deal, I could see a healthy lineup looking like this:

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Alexandre Burrows
David Booth - Ryan Kesler - Teddy Purcell
Chris Higgins - Maxim Lapierre - Jannik Hansen
Mason Raymond (not 4th liner, but move up and down - Manny Malhotra - Zack Kassian

Possibly acquire more toughness and plan something else with MayRay? (Brandon Prust = droooooooooooooool).

We have lots of defensive depth, LOTS AND LOTS! Get younger though, and pick up that super prospect everybody in BC's raving about, yep, Justin Schultz (http://eliteprospect...hp?player=18241).

Dan Hamhuis - Kevin Bieksa
Alexandre Edler - Chris Tanev
Keith Ballard - Justin Schultz

Yes, Sami Salo may just happen to have enough left in the tank for one more season (hoping he does!).

This is all in my dreams, I have many scinerios for this team's becomming in the not too distant future, but this all seems like a likely route.

Gillis said he wants this team to become better, younger, and stronger. He also believes we have great defensive depth (agreed), so don't expect mant changes there, butchya' never know, SHEA WEBER shall still be a posibilty for the time being (wink wink nudge nudge).

There's absolutely nothing to worry or panic about. Despite the early exit, we have one of the most elite teams in the NHL. We as fans just have to be patient, and Mike Gillis and the rest of the crew will do whatever they can to make this team even better than before. We're still a win now team. There's just work that needs to be done first.

I need all of your thoughts! Thank You! Yes, it was a long read, but I had put a lot of thought into it.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:03 PM

There's not really much to say.. You covered every topic


huh.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

What about Sami Pahlsson?
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:19 PM

What about Sami Pahlsson?


He's almost in his mid 30's, pretty well there now... He wasn't what the Canucks had hoped that he'd be either. He's a UFA too, expect him to be released.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

How the hell can you honestly say we had a disappointing season. We won the Presidents Trophy... we had a disappointing post-season. I didn't read the rest, probably the same crap this forum has seen for the last few weeks.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:52 PM

holy crap you must have spent the day writing this
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:05 PM

How the hell can you honestly say we had a disappointing season. We won the Presidents Trophy... we had a disappointing post-season. I didn't read the rest, probably the same crap this forum has seen for the last few weeks.


Lot's of valid points actually, go get an Eskimo pie and take your time reading this
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:18 PM

holy crap you must have spent the day writing this


I FREAKING LOVE WRITING B)
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:37 PM

He's almost in his mid 30's, pretty well there now... He wasn't what the Canucks had hoped that he'd be either. He's a UFA too, expect him to be released.


I thought he was what we expected and more. Our third line was one of our best lines down the stretch and he scored more than we expected he would. Overall good play for a guy who played a little over a month with us.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:40 PM

Lot's of valid points actually, go get an Eskimo pie and take your time reading this


His point was vaild also... There is "roughly" 70 percent of the league that would love to have the season we had
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:46 AM

Schultz is not gonna sign with a team, even if it's the Canucks, that doesn't give him top 4 minutes.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:54 AM

Are the nucks still interested in Ott

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:42 AM

Schultz is not gonna sign with a team, even if it's the Canucks, that doesn't give him top 4 minutes.


I don't see why Schultz couldn't be paired with Edler. I think that would be perfect.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:59 AM

There's absolutely no denying it. The Vancouver had a disappointing season. Just simply, disappointing. The team had themselves a relatively short summer after an astounding and heroic run to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. The Canucks didn't have 'IT'. This had nothing to do with a controversy or problems in the locker room, and I too believe it wasn't the cup run hangover either.

How do I start? To cram a lot into a simple explination, we were banged up and to an extent, not very conditioned. Ryan Kesler had offseason surgery all the way into July, where it was painfully obvious that he wanted to play ASAP, so he came back only 5 games into the 'reg' season. I do believe he was rushed. Dan Hamhuis needed an abdominal procedure done as well. I had also noticed, the two players Canucks fans had been bashing the most: Mason Raymond and Manny Malhotra, had both come back from absolutely horrific career threatening injuries. I read in an article from 'The Province', and Raymond told the media that hockey is 70% mental... Raymond's speed was there, had his quick release back, but a Raymond with no confidence, wouldn't drive to the net and be a dangerous scorer like he was 2 years ago. As for Manny, you couldn't exactly say the speed was there and the grittiness we ALL know he can bring, but his hand-eye was there, and his face-off % being top-5 in the regular season and TOP-3 in the playoffs proves it. I am totally against the fact that the reasons why these two were as disappointing as they were was because of Mason's vertebra injury and Manny's eye injury (to a small extent), I believe it's more coming off to very emotional seasons and learning new lessons that had all come so fast. It's also important to note that these two both missed training camp, so they both had to spend a large portion of the season playing catch-up. Emotion played a HUGE factor this season for some individuals more than others.

Okay, Kesler, Edler and Bieksa; three of some of our most important players had been injured down the stretch of this season and playing injured. They are our core guys! The ones Gillis locked up (hoping Edler soon) to be the guys that this team depends on in the next few years. We DON"T need a team overhaul. I do have to admit, and pretty well unrelated to their severe injuries, MayRay and Manny don't necessarily fit into these teams plans. Gillis said in his season-end press conference, he wants this team to become younger and stronger. But, however, we've seen these guys at their best, of course when they hadn't been injured. Heck, Raymond's not even in his prime yet. Frankly, I believe no of these guys are going anywhere during the draft or anywhere neat the beginning of the summer. I believe that a few months of rest, time to rehabilitate, time to spend with their families (Raymond not to long ago had a new child), and deal with their own personal lives will do these to particular individuals and the team as a WHOLE a lot of good. Have a good summer, be ready for training camp, and we'll see what happens from there. Fortunately, we are blessed, and I mean BLESSED to have one of the smartest GM's in the whole National Hockey League, and he thinks everything through thoroughly. Wait this off-season out, re-evaluate Mason Raymond and Manny Malhotra, then decide on their fates.

I've always said this: 'You can NEVER have enough pass first players.' There's proof to that. Look at the Penguins with Crosby and Malkin. They are two of the league's most elite of them all. They are wonderful hockey players with great sense, we know they can score, but their line-mates like the James Neals and the Pascal Dupuis' complete a signature top-6 line in hockey. They all have astounding hockey players who create scoring chances with pretty yet simple plays and finished of whether you snipe the puck like Steven Stamkos or go to the net like a vintage Ryan Smyth. Same goes with the Sedin line. The Sedins (both) are wonderful playmakers who can also finish and have Burrows to feed the puck to. As wonderful as these two are, Kesler and Booth look like misfits without their playmaker that the desperately need. Both of these players have scored at least 60+ points in their young careers, but they're both 'do it yourself' type of players. We've seen flashes of magic with the AMEX line with Higgins along their side, but let's face it, Higgins is a versatile player who gives it his all every shift making the players around him better, but, he gives our third line another dimension that makes it better than anybody's in the NHL, and he's not a true playmaker. This second line we have needs it!

Everybody underestimates Roberto Luongo's trade value. Yes, it's true, Schneider can get us something magical, but we can get great things out of trading Luongo. GREAT things. Look at the evidence: In 2007, the Oilers acquired Anaheim's 1st round pick that year, former top-10 pick Ladislav Smid, Joffery Lupul, and a conditional pick all for just Chris Pronger to be sent the other way to the Anaheim Ducks. In 2008, the Penguins landed Hossa for Colby Armstrong, Erik Chritensen, (at the time, before injury bug hit him) super-prospect Angelo Esposito, and the 'Pens' first rounder that year. I believe our best trading partner is with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Why not? Luongo's wife's from there. It's also where his family lives. Tampa Bay also has tremendous assets. They have some wonderful roster players, including a 10th overall pick, and I believe they wouldn't be to afraid to deal this pick because they got another first rounder out of the three-way Kyle Quincey trade and they have a few second and third rounders. I can see the Vancouver Canucks trading Roberto Luongo straight up for Teddy Purcell and their 10th overall draft pick this year. Teddy Purcell his a playmaking 6'2 201 pound right winger who ranked 37th in the NHL in points this year. He's a wonderful player for the Lightning with great vision and playmaking ability that the Booth-Kesler line desperately need. We'd be getting even better and even younger with a trade like this.

If, this is IF all goes well for Malhotra and Raymond this offseason and give Raymond a (FAIR) deal, I could see a healthy lineup looking like this:

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Alexandre Burrows
David Booth - Ryan Kesler - Teddy Purcell
Chris Higgins - Maxim Lapierre - Jannik Hansen
Mason Raymond (not 4th liner, but move up and down - Manny Malhotra - Zack Kassian

Possibly acquire more toughness and plan something else with MayRay? (Brandon Prust = droooooooooooooool).

We have lots of defensive depth, LOTS AND LOTS! Get younger though, and pick up that super prospect everybody in BC's raving about, yep, Justin Schultz (http://eliteprospect...hp?player=18241).

Dan Hamhuis - Kevin Bieksa
Alexandre Edler - Chris Tanev
Keith Ballard - Justin Schultz

Yes, Sami Salo may just happen to have enough left in the tank for one more season (hoping he does!).

This is all in my dreams, I have many scinerios for this team's becomming in the not too distant future, but this all seems like a likely route.

Gillis said he wants this team to become better, younger, and stronger. He also believes we have great defensive depth (agreed), so don't expect mant changes there, butchya' never know, SHEA WEBER shall still be a posibilty for the time being (wink wink nudge nudge).

There's absolutely nothing to worry or panic about. Despite the early exit, we have one of the most elite teams in the NHL. We as fans just have to be patient, and Mike Gillis and the rest of the crew will do whatever they can to make this team even better than before. We're still a win now team. There's just work that needs to be done first.

I need all of your thoughts! Thank You! Yes, it was a long read, but I had put a lot of thought into it.

Cheers.
GO CANUCKS GO!!!


Mike Gillis, is that you?

Incredible ideas, yet much much simpler than half the garbage people propose on here.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

i always respect people who take the time to post a well thought out thread ;)
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:43 AM

There's no way that Tampa is parting with the 10th overall pick for anyone but Schneider. Add Purcell on top of that, a 60+ point guy who thrived playing with Stamkos, and you have a deal that just doesn't make sense. The market for Luongo will be good, but not that good. Tampa needs that 10th overall pick to draft a D-man. Purcell + 10th overall pick for Luongo won't happen in a million years. Steve Yzerman's head would roll if that deal went down.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:19 AM

Awesome post! Thank you!
Just one question, why is every one denying one simple fact that over rides everything else?
This team does not have A NEVER DIE ATTITUDE!!!!!
Your team can have all the talent in the world, if there is not work ethic you have what we have now, just ask SJ.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:31 AM

Awesome post! Thank you!
Just one question, why is every one denying one simple fact that over rides everything else?
This team does not have A NEVER DIE ATTITUDE!!!!!
Your team can have all the talent in the world, if there is not work ethic you have what we have now, just ask SJ.


The one simple fact that rides over everything else is that we don't have a ''never die attitude'' ?? Wtf does that even mean? Care to elaborate on this ''fact'' you speak of?

I guess making it through to the SCF with injuries to half our core players, battling through adversity, winning games in game 7 OT, equals bad work ethic....

Edited by DirtyHarry, 11 May 2012 - 09:35 AM.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:45 AM

What do i mean? well do we have a cup? NO!
Boston was just as beat up as we were! The difference was and it was obvious they WILLED them selves to win, Van rolled over and died!
As far as this year I don't even know what to call it, it was just painful!
You don't think that any of the other teams are banged up, come on man! The will to win is what drives those other teams, I am not sure any more what is driving this team because it sure isn't A WILL TO WIN!
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:00 AM

Winning the pres trophy is one thing, the Cup is a whole different animal, it takes a lot more that what we have seen from this team in the past two years.
They will hopefully dig deep in the off season and find that extra will power and determination to put it all together next season and bring home the cup. This is a deep team there is really no excuse except a lack of effort! Our pres trophy win this year was because our div is not the strongest and our team is a juggernaut. So gauging success on the pres trophy is................well not really an accurate way of gauging success! The CUP is every teams success gauge, That is why every one calls it "the holy grail of sports"!
We don't have one yet do we?
So how successful are we really?
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

Nice post. I agree that some of our forward group under performed. Booth and Kesler just don't mesh as both are shoot first players and should be on separate lines. I believe the following changes will improve our depth immensely:

1. Package Luongo & Raymond & a pick to Toronto for Dion Phaneuf & TO's 1st round pick

2. Sign Zack Parise to a $6.1 cap hit or less (could be front packed)

3. Sign Jason Garrison to a $2.5 cap hit or less

4. Resign Aaron Volpatti ($0.61) & Salo ($2mil)

5. Add a rookie (Jensen) to the line up. Balance out the lines & roll 4 lines that can each play responsible & productive mins. Let Kesler carry a line (he is at his best when playing against opposing teams best players).

6. Move Hansen to the Sedin line. He adds speed, net presense and hockey smarts

7. Reunite Burrows & Kesler. They compliment each other quite nicely. Burrows passing ability adds to Keslers game.

8. change the old hockey adage of first line, 2nd line e.t.c. Simply roll 4 lines and play the most productive line. Creating internal competition.

A line up combo is as follows:

Forward group

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Hansen

David Booth - Zack Parise - Jensen

Chris Higgins - Kesler - Burrows

Volpatti - Lappy - Kassian

Dale weise

Defensive Group

Dion - Salo

Edler - Garrison

Hamhius - Bieksa

Gragnani - Alberts

Goalie

Corey

J.S Giguere ($0.5)
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:02 AM

What do i mean? well do we have a cup? NO!
Boston was just as beat up as we were! The difference was and it was obvious they WILLED them selves to win, Van rolled over and died!
As far as this year I don't even know what to call it, it was just painful!
You don't think that any of the other teams are banged up, come on man! The will to win is what drives those other teams, I am not sure any more what is driving this team because it sure isn't A WILL TO WIN!


Go cheer for those teams then if that's what you truly believe ''realnucksfan''. You're sadly mistaken if you think the players on this team don't have a will to win. Probably the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Do you realize most of these guys have taken a pay cut in order to help the organization put together a team that can compete for the Stanley Cup every year? What does that tell you? If it tells you that they don't want to win then you're even more stupid than i had originally thought.

And if you wanna pull out the injuries argument, there's no way the Bruins had more injured players than us in the finals last year. Raymond, Edler, Ehrhoff, Henrik Sedin, Kesler, Malhotra and Hamhuis were ALL playing or not playing with significant injuries, not to mention Rome was out with a suspension. The Bruins had at most 2 or 3 injuries, actually i can only think of one big one which was Horton.

Just because this group doesn't have a cup, it doesn't mean they don't have a will to win, pull your head out of your ass man, that is a ridiculous argument. If anything that makes them want to win even more. If you truly believe this crap you're spewing out your mouth, then like i said, go cheer for another team. realnucksfan, my a$$.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:10 AM

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:17 AM

Would love to hear your thoughts on why we can't win then Dirtyharry, please do share. by the way that was just my thoughts, nothing serious O.K.?
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

Great post.

IMO we need:

1) a LARGE hitter/shooter with the Sedins

2) a playmaker for the 2nd line

3) a good punishing top 4 D-man

We have enough depth to pick and choose for our 3rd and 4th lines

In goal we should be ok which ever way it goes

Thoughts?
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

Great post.

IMO we need:

1) a LARGE hitter/shooter with the Sedins

2) a playmaker for the 2nd line

3) a good punishing top 4 D-man

We have enough depth to pick and choose for our 3rd and 4th lines

In goal we should be ok which ever way it goes

Thoughts?


1. hitter with Sedins = Hansen
2. 2nd Line Center = Zack Parise
3. Punishing 4-dman = Dion Phaneuf
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

We have lots of defensive depth, LOTS AND LOTS! Get younger though, and pick up that super prospect everybody in BC's raving about, yep, Justin Schultz (http://eliteprospect...hp?player=18241).

Dan Hamhuis - Kevin Bieksa
Alexandre Edler - Chris Tanev
Keith Ballard - Justin Schultz


No doubt that is a pretty skilled D, but, alas, it is would probably the smallest and weakest in the league.

Bieksa - nearly all his so-called toughness comes from looking intimidating in a scrum
Edler - the only big man but doesn't hit often
Hammer - our best D overall, but doesn't merit his nickname (not since Lucic)
Tanev - zero toughness quotient, most often stapled by opposing forwards
Schultz - know nothing of his physical game but his buck eighty frame is a clue
Ballard - hip checks are still there and probably sticks up for teammates more than anyone but won't see the ice time under AV

I want us to sign Schultz as much as the next guy, but any such move needs to be counterbalanced by adding size and toughness and dispatching some of our truculence lacking D.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:36 AM

Wow great post good thoughts overall. The follow comments are carrying the rap though. The totality of Harry and nucksfans comments bring thought to the post. Valid points both of them. Try to remember though that too much change is not good and that to play hockey in the NHL is a huge accomplishment. It took a ton of personal sacrifice and work ethic to get there. I think the club is feeling through how to create a "dynasty" type team in a CBA/FA world. Long term success takes time and experimentation. We are only a few years in and need to respect what everyone is trying to accomplish. Time will tell, instant gratification does not work when thinking long term success.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:49 AM

Would love to hear your thoughts on why we can't win then Dirtyharry, please do share. by the way that was just my thoughts, nothing serious O.K.?


What makes you think they can't win? I think they CAN win. Why anyone thinks they can't win when they were the best team in the league 2 years in a row despite injuries and fatigue is beyond me. They made it to game 7 of the Stanley Cup final with basically the same core of players. The run last year wore our players down with severe injuries and just plain fatigue.

This year they worked their butts off to make it back to the playoffs but simply got outworked by a fresh young talented LA team that will probably go to the cup finals this year. Again i don't want to use injuries as an excuse but we were banged up again this year missing our top scorer for half the series....how can anyone ignore that?

This team just needs a good long off season to rest, train and heal up any injuries, get away from the game, let management do a bit of re-tooling and come to training camp fresh and ready for another marathon like we saw last year. The players just simply had nothing left in the tank, and it's easy to understand that. It had nothing to do with not having the will to win.

Just be glad this team has the ability to make the playoffs every year. Some kids on here just don't remember, or weren't alive during the dark old days of not even making the playoffs, or scraping to make them and then getting bounced in the first round.. Be grateful we have this great team to watch every year.

Sorry for the rant...but someone saying this team doesn't have the will to win is idiotic and it annoyed me.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:16 PM

Your right, I could have been a little more specific with my statements, you do have great points, I am a die hard Canucks fan have been for 22 years, have seen a lot of good and bad Nucks teams, this one is by far the best I have i my 22 years or cheering for Van! just wish they could find that extra gear thats all i am trying to say! B)
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