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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:09 AM

Toronto can't step up their offer because they are already doing the best they can; offering an entire team of plugs.


Again, I don't think Brian burke was ever interested in Luongo, probably because of the contract, as we know, he is not a fan of that type of contract. Nonis we know, is really interested in him, but Burke has the final say. Burke has offered us refusable offers in order to look like he is trying to add better players, when in fact he has very little interest. This way, he can protect his own interest, by at least look like he is trying to trade for Luongo. If he does nothing, and everything goes bad next season, he will get thrown under the bus. However if he's made the offers to Gillis, at least the media cannot lash out at him for "not trying" because he can say, he's already tried, to trade for Luongo. Epic fail on his assistant too, for saying they don't want to give up too many assets for Luongo. Fail.

We will gladly hang onto him into the regular season were his value will go up, once teams realize they need goaltending, or once Luongo starts playing real good again, the interest will be there. Burke can go screw himself.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:21 AM

No kidding. He's not a free agent, he's under contract w/ the Canucks, so why would they be talking to his agent? They're not allowed to. If they're interested they'll be talking to Gillis and Gilman


So they are potentially taking on 10 years of contract without speaking to Luongo or his agent?
You would think Gillis would grant them the right to do that, what a dick!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:22 AM

Hey breaking news...Vancouver canucks have signed Jason Garrison.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:35 AM

Again, I don't think Brian burke was ever interested in Luongo, probably because of the contract, as we know, he is not a fan of that type of contract.  Nonis we know, is really interested in him, but Burke has the final say.  Burke has offered us refusable offers in order to look like he is trying to add better players, when in fact he has very little interest.  This way, he can protect his own interest, by at least look like he is trying to trade for Luongo. If he does nothing, and everything goes bad next season, he will get thrown under the bus.  However  if he's made the offers to Gillis, at least the media cannot lash out at him for "not trying" because he can say, he's already tried, to trade for Luongo.     Epic fail on his assistant too, for saying they don't want to give up too many assets for Luongo. Fail.

We will gladly hang onto him into the regular season were his value will go up, once teams realize they need goaltending, or once Luongo starts playing real good again, the interest will be there.   Burke can go screw himself.


If Burke is counting on using the "I tried" excuse, he's going to be in trouble. MLSE will counter with "you failed".

Burke can state that he's comfortable with his goaltending, but it's just posturing. As is his feigned "disinterest" in Luongo. He's trying to minimize the cost, as are Tallon and Yzerman.

Of the three, Burke is the most likely to lose his job if he misses another postseason. Stevie Y will survive because he's Stevie Y and Tallon will likely get a mulligan.

However, fans and media in all three cities would look at their respective GMs and say "You should have made the deal" should they fail to make the playoffs next year.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:43 AM

Hey breaking news...Vancouver canucks have signed Jason Garrison.

OMG REALLY :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

So they are potentially taking on 10 years of contract without speaking to Luongo or his agent?
You would think Gillis would grant them the right to do that, what a dick!

"@hfialkov: Correcting earlier tweet. Panthers haven't spoken to Canucks recently. I mistakenly said Luomgos agent sorry #flapanthers"

Well if Gillis were to give them permission, it would only be once a potential deal is in place. If people thing Luongo saying he would like to go back to Florida handcuffed Gillis, well letting them speak to Luongo's agent would likely handcuff Gillis more than anything Luongo could ever say.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

OMG REALLY :shock: :shock: :shock:
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LOL...
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:08 PM

If Burke is counting on using the "I tried" excuse, he's going to be in trouble. MLSE will counter with "you failed".

Burke can state that he's comfortable with his goaltending, but it's just posturing. As is his feigned "disinterest" in Luongo. He's trying to minimize the cost, as are Tallon and Yzerman.

Of the three, Burke is the most likely to lose his job if he misses another postseason. Stevie Y will survive because he's Stevie Y and Tallon will likely get a mulligan.

However, fans and media in all three cities would look at their respective GMs and say "You should have made the deal" should they fail to make the playoffs next year.


If MG can't move Lu for a decent return, whether that be prospects, picks or players, the owners have to question MG's handling of the whole Luongo/Schneider affair and subsequent expectations for Lu.

WIth a number of teams obviously in need of better goaltending, the difficulty in moving Lu (who's cap hit and realistic 6 year tenure are not a stumbling block) would seem to indicate Lu's reputation and/or the drama surrounding him, make him a far less attractive asset than MG and many Vancouver fans believe.

Lu's contract was MG's baby and he has to own-up to that. The politics and awkwardness surrounding Cory and Lu is also of his making. If he can't move LU after all has been said by him, Lu and others, MG has badly mismanaged the Vancouver goalie situation and as an owner, I would be concerned what that could mean for the team going forward.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:18 PM

If MG can't move Lu for a decent return, whether that be prospects, picks or players, the owners have to question  MG's handling of the whole Luongo/Schneider affair and subsequent expectations for Lu.

WIth a number of teams obviously in need of better goaltending, the difficulty in moving Lu (who's cap hit and realistic 6 year tenure are not a stumbling block) would seem to indicate Lu's reputation and/or the drama surrounding him, make him a far less attractive asset than MG and many Vancouver fans believe.

Lu's contract was MG's baby and he has to own-up to that.  The politics and awkwardness surrounding Cory and Lu is also of his making.  If he can't move LU after all has been said by him, Lu and others, MG has badly mismanaged the Vancouver goalie situation and as an owner, I would be concerned what that could mean for the team going forward.


What you term "badly mismanaged", I would call another season with the best goaltending tandem in the league, albeit with more Cap commitment than he would like.

There is nothing to say that Luongo couldn't be asked to waive his NTC at the trade deadline, should it then become apparent to Burke, or one of the Florida-based GMs that their goaltending is once again not getting it done and they are in danger of missing the playoffs.

I believe that Gillis would have exactly zero trepidation about going to Aquilini and telling him the offers for Luongo's services simply weren't good enough and that he would revisit them later in the season. YMMV.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:28 PM

What you term "badly mismanaged", I would call another season with the best goaltending tandem in the league, albeit with more Cap commitment than he would like.

There is nothing to say that Luongo couldn't be asked to waive his NTC at the trade deadline, should it then become apparent to Burke, or one of the Florida-based GMs that their goaltending is once again not getting it done and they are in danger of missing the playoffs.

I believe that Gillis would have exactly zero trepidation about going to Aquilini and telling him the offers for Luongo's services simply weren't good enough and that he would revisit them later in the season. YMMV.


its not all that bad if we go with the Luongo-Schneider tandem. Luongo+Schneider+Garrison make less than the Wild's Parise & Suter. Yet some people will still say the the Wild's GM is the GM of the year for signing those two this offseason.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:35 PM

What you term "badly mismanaged", I would call another season with the best goaltending tandem in the league, albeit with more Cap commitment than he would like.

There is nothing to say that Luongo couldn't be asked to waive his NTC at the trade deadline, should it then become apparent to Burke, or one of the Florida-based GMs that their goaltending is once again not getting it done and they are in danger of missing the playoffs.

I believe that Gillis would have exactly zero trepidation about going to Aquilini and telling him the offers for Luongo's services simply weren't good enough and that he would revisit them later in the season. YMMV.


I don't have a problem with last year's goalie tandem scenario. I am speaking more to the post-season. Much of the difficulty for MG results from Lu's comments following the team's loss in the 1st round and since. So in MG's defence, I acknowledge Lu has not done him any favours. How do you bring Lu back to training camp after what he has said publicly? There is no more "Lu is #1 and Cory is his backup" on the Nucks. Cory was clear he wants to be a starter and he was given a contract to reflect that. I can't see both of them (friends or not) sharing duties and believe it would be a huge distraction for the rest of the team.

MG played this like he was confident Lu would go (or knowing Lu had requested a trade and wasn't cming back). So to not be able to move him for a decent return has to be seen a a failure in strategy and/or judgement.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:43 PM

If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.


Kind of what I was trying to say. I agree!
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

How Panthers even CAN speak to Luongo's agent if Luongo IS under contract with Canucks?

The tweet was corrected, but there is no reason Gillis wouldn't give permission to Florida to talk to Lu and his agent. Lu has a NTC, to he would want to get an idea of his role in Florida. Before a deal is done they most definitely will have spoken.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

A deal will happen- we're just the ones who are impatient.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:07 PM

The tweet was corrected, but there is no reason Gillis wouldn't give permission to Florida to talk to Lu and his agent. Lu has a NTC, to he would want to get an idea of his role in Florida. Before a deal is done they most definitely will have spoken.


I would imagine they would want Lu to eventually be a mentor for Markstrom, just like he was to Schneider. Schneider does owe alot of credit to Lu for helping him become the number 1 goalie he has.

And if you look at it, Markstrom's 22 years old right now. He's at least a year or two away from making the NHL IMO. So when you take into account the fact that Schneider didn't become a starter until he was 26, that's another 4 years for Markstrom.

So that would allow them to have at least 4 years of Luongo being the starter and giving them a chance to win while their young prospects develop. Then after 4 years, Luongo is 37 years old and probably more or less ready to take on a backup role for a couple years before he retires at age 39. And the good thing is having a bigger cap hit will help them because they'll have alot of young players on cheap contracts. Then the last 4 years of his contract can easily be bought out because of the lower salary at the end of his contract, or he can simply retire.

Really it makes alot of sense when you break it down for the Panthers.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:25 PM

I would imagine they would want Lu to eventually be a mentor for Markstrom, just like he was to Schneider. Schneider does owe alot of credit to Lu for helping him become the number 1 goalie he has.

And if you look at it, Markstrom's 22 years old right now. He's at least a year or two away from making the NHL IMO. So when you take into account the fact that Schneider didn't become a starter until he was 26, that's another 4 years for Markstrom.

So that would allow them to have at least 4 years of Luongo being the starter and giving them a chance to win while their young prospects develop. Then after 4 years, Luongo is 37 years old and probably more or less ready to take on a backup role for a couple years before he retires at age 39. And the good thing is having a bigger cap hit will help them because they'll have alot of young players on cheap contracts. Then the last 4 years of his contract can easily be bought out because of the lower salary at the end of his contract, or he can simply retire.

Really it makes alot of sense when you break it down for the Panthers.


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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:33 PM

In b4 sundins boyfriend sees this and goes apesh*t hahaha


Haha.

This situation is quite a bit different though since Markstrom and Schneider were both rookies. Plus I think alot more mentoring does go into goalie tandems like these.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:40 PM

If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.


Agreed. However, every GM's ability to do anything is based on REPUTATION percieved by the other GMs.

If Gillis bends over for Luongo , then he will have lost some mojo for further deals. It was very uncool for Lui to blab he wants to leave and hint he wont come back regardless.

If I am Gillis I keep Luongo until the right deal comes along. Other GMs may be waiting for Gillis to cave, but Luongo himself will have to face training camp and his team mates.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:49 PM

I don't have a problem with last year's goalie tandem scenario.  I am speaking more to the post-season.  Much of the difficulty for MG results from Lu's comments  following the team's loss in the 1st round and since. So in MG's defence, I acknowledge Lu has not done him any favours.  How do you bring Lu back to training camp after what he has said publicly?  There is no more "Lu is #1 and Cory is his backup" on the Nucks.  Cory was clear he wants to be a starter and he was given a contract to reflect that. I can't see both of them (friends or not) sharing duties and believe it would be a huge distraction for the rest of the team.

MG played this like he was confident Lu would go (or knowing Lu had requested a trade and wasn't cming back).  So to not be able to move him for a decent return has to be seen a a failure in strategy and/or judgement.


I don't see it as the huge distraction that so many others do. Yes, Cory would be the number 1 and Louie the backup, but in the end it will be performance that determines who plays and who doesn't.

Is it a gamble? Certainly. Luongo could have a poor season, thus diminishing his value. However, he could be motivated to re-take the #1 position and play lights out, thus increasing his value, especially to teams on the playoff bubble.

Personally, I think Gillis has to hold out for real value. If that takes all year, so be it.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

If Gillis can get any sort of significant return for Luongo after whats gone on, he deserves a gold medal.

Just look at all of the blunders that have gone on since the end of the season that has hurt this process.

From Lu hinting that he wanted a trade, to AV leaking it to the media that he had actually requested a trade, and even more recently to Luongo saying that he would prefer to go to Florida.

If anyone thinks this is an easy trade for Gillis to make, you're ignoring the situation here.

If anyone's hurt Luongo's value the most, it's Luongo. Teams are afraid to take him on long term because of what's gone on here the last 6 years. With the meltdowns, the media confrontations, and the losing the number 1 position to a younger goalie. It's no surprise that teams are a little hesitant.

This is why I believe MG has to accept the situation at face value and take less than he'd like. Not saying he ought to let himself get soaked, but it's starting to look like his expectations are too high at present.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:39 PM

MG wil not give Lui away for plugs. If he can't get a solid player back, there will be no deal. There's no pressure to unload him. Don't be surprised if you see him on our roster this coming season.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

This is why I believe MG has to accept the situation at face value and take less than he'd like. Not saying he ought to let himself get soaked, but it's starting to look like his expectations are too high at present.


None of us knows that for sure. It's just as likely that Florida is very high on acquiring Lu, and that Gillis is just waiting until a different, or another specific player or pick, is added to the deal coming our way.

It's still almost three months until the Canucks play their first regular season game. These deals may take a lot of consideration by both sides, but a decision is made in a moment.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:45 PM

I disagree, I absolutely think he'll be traded this off-season, when Roberto said it was "time to move on" I think that really confirmed all the speculation. If he were on our roster next season, it could end up being a hostile situation. He might not like being a backup and could even demand a trade.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:01 PM

I disagree, I absolutely think he'll be traded this off-season, when Roberto said it was "time to move on" I think that really confirmed all the speculation. If he were on our roster next season, it could end up being a hostile situation. He might not like being a backup and could even demand a trade.

Yeah, I think it would be less of an internal problem, but more of a media circus.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

I disagree, I absolutely think he'll be traded this off-season, when Roberto said it was "time to move on" I think that really confirmed all the speculation. If he were on our roster next season, it could end up being a hostile situation. He might not like being a backup and could even demand a trade.


If he demands a trade, it will play more into GIllis's hands as he would then have to broaden his list of teams he would be willing to be traded to.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

61 more pages before we hit 200

than we will see a trade happen because Gillis is asking to much at the moment but I think it will be slightly lowered

I would not mind signing a couple depth players while we wait
as a 7th / 8th Dman
Aaron Johnson for 850K for a year
as 4th linner /13th or in on the Wolves
Cal O'Reilly for 1.6 million(1.2million) for 2 year 2 way deal (800K if up with the big club or 600k in the minors)
as 3rd line plug in if we can not sign anybody like Doan or Semin
Winger Eric Fehr ... been a fan when he was with Washington but was ok with the Jets this past season ........ he will take a pay cut but 1 year deal for 1.5million

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

If he demands a trade, it will play more into GIllis's hands as he would then have to broaden his list of teams he would be willing to be traded to.


Correct.

I don't think Lu would relish the awkward situation he'd be under, constantly, in the dressing room or from the media. Pretty sure Schneider is well-liked by his teammates. Lu's a smart guy, and a proud one. I'd think he'd want to be #1 on pretty much any new team than a back-up even during most of one more season here.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:51 PM

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than we will see a trade happen because Gillis is asking to much at the moment but I think it will be slightly lowered

I would not mind signing a couple depth players while we wait
as a 7th / 8th Dman
Aaron Johnson for 850K for a year
as 4th linner /13th or in on the Wolves
Cal O'Reilly for 1.6 million(1.2million) for 2 year 2 way deal (800K if up with the big club or 600k in the minors)
as 3rd line plug in if we can not sign anybody like Doan or Semin
Winger Eric Fehr ... been a fan when he was with Washington but was ok with the Jets this past season ........ he will take a pay cut but 1 year deal for 1.5million

thoughts


Wouldn't mind Aaron Johnson, and that's it. But for 700K.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

None of us knows that for sure. It's just as likely that Florida is very high on acquiring Lu, and that Gillis is just waiting until a different, or another specific player or pick, is added to the deal coming our way.

It's still almost three months until the Canucks play their first regular season game. These deals may take a lot of consideration by both sides, but a decision is made in a moment.

Of course none of us knows, but Deniro pointed out, and I agree, that certain factors beyond MG's control have conspired to diminish MG's negotiating position. This may make it necessary for MG to soften his position a little.
I'm not sying Lou is not worth anything. But MG has admitted himself that he has been the problem with respect to a deal not getting done. He has said that he wants a lot in return. All I was pointing out is that his expectations may be so high that no deal can get done, no matter how interested Florida, or anyone else for that matter, is. Again, just to make sure I'm not being vague, I don't think Lou isn't valuable and I don't think MG needs to get soaked in a Luongo deal. Just not as valuable as MG makes him out to be at this point in the game.
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