smurf47 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Have you ever heard of Andrew Raycroft? The man was in a similar situation as Schneider. He won awards in the CHL and then shifted between the NHL and AHL for the next 2 seasons and he did reasonably well. He then jumped into the NHL (year before the lockout) and carried the Bruins to second place in the Eastern Conference. That season, he had great numbers and won the Calder Trophy. (57 games played, 29-18-8 record with a GAA of 2.05 and sv% of .926) At this point in his career he had 78 NHL games under his belt and was projected by many to be a superstar goaltender for years to come, much like Schneider. So what happened to him? After the lockout, he struggled and after 30 games he was sent down to the AHL and eventually traded to Toronto where he had one decent season (37 wins, but only .894 sv%) and everything spiralled downhill after that. I think it would be a bad idea of if MG decides to find out whether Schneider is a superstar or not by trading Luongo who is a proven, elite goaltender in the NHL. It would probably be smarter to keep them both (unless a team heavily overpays for one of our goalies) until November/December to see if Schneider can handle the workload before making the trade. This way, we will have cap space (Kesler is on LTIR) for both goalies and Schneider will be given a chance to start as the no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Did not the four or five groin injuries dictate that Luo had to change his style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Did not the four or five groin injuries dictate that Luo had to change his style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCanucks Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I am getting pretty tired of people saying that Schnieder cant handle the workload. There is more proof that he can actually handle than that he cant. He is young, has shown to get consistently better when given more games, and has generally been outstanding after sitting for long stretches. On top of that in 2008/2009 he played 70 total games - posting a 44 - 21 - 0 record and in the range of a .920 save %. In 2009/2010 he played 66 games.and again posted very good numbers. So this whole Cory cant handle the workload that Luongo has is completely incorrect. Luongo wants out. He spoke the words himself. He will be moved. Get used to the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCanucks Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 So Schnieder cant perform for a full season? Says who? You? Mr. Expert? Wow you should be a GM in the NHL if you know so much put a sock in it dude, go get a clean diaper and move on. Wow, so tired of these whiny people not realizing that we have a superstar in Schnieder. When he hoists the cup in a nucks uni, I will bombard you with emails asking you if you still believe this garbage you are spewing. You realize Schnieder has won and been a starter at every level right? He's played 60 plus in the AHL for numerous years right? Yes its not the NHL but clearly fitness and mental strength are not issues. And how do you propose we find out. Play him 62 and lou 20? Wow, team first Lou won't go for that will he? "time to move on" lou can't handle that can he? Then there is the cap issue and how much you're tying up in a backup... None of your comments make any sense Think deeper man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocnhockey Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 IMHO, it will be a grave mistake to trade Luongo, he should be our starting goaltender. So many people have started talking about this now and realize, as impressive as CS has been in the few games he's played for us, he has not played a full season yet and if something was to happen to sideline him during the season, or his confidence gets rattled, WTH is gonna back him up. Bobby-lu will always be #1 in my books! Everything I've stated is the truth and is supported by my own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Woul be nice to see him playing in Chicago, at least he will have a chance to win a cup. Going to Toronto and Florida will be just collecting pay check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Luongo was supposed to finish his career here, have his number retired and everything...what the heck happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 +1. Good rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Luongo was supposed to finish his career here, have his number retired and everything...what the heck happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocnhockey Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This entire ordeal can be attributed to Roberto's inconsistency in the playoffs, his mental fragility, the questionable length of his contract, and the emergence of another starting goaltender. These four factors have made obvious the need to move him. When he arrived in Vancouver, people believed that had he played behind the West Coast Express, this city would have seen its first Stanley Cup championship. We have seen him crumble in the playoffs every year, however, even behind some of the most complete and dominant rosters in team history. Mike Gillis has proven he does not concede to public pressure. He understands this decision is in the best interest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This entire ordeal can be attributed to Roberto's inconsistency in the playoffs, his mental fragility, the questionable length of his contract, and the emergence of another starting goaltender. These four factors have made obvious the need to move him. When he arrived in Vancouver, people believed that had he played behind the West Coast Express, this city would have seen its first Stanley Cup championship. We have seen him crumble in the playoffs every year, however, even behind some of the most complete and dominant rosters in team history. Mike Gillis has proven he does not concede to public pressure. He understands this decision is in the best interest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Singling out a goalie in the Boston series is absurd - especially when the Canucks scored 8 goals. If you're going to single any player out for the Boston series, single out Tim Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwedishCrowns Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Luo sucks! I hate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Groin injuries. If not for them Luo could be still playing lights out in net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Groin injuries. If not for them Luo could be still playing lights out in net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Trading a proven starting NHL goalie and someone who guarantees the Canucks 30 wins a season is just a bonehead move by MG. Cory Schneider is still a nobody, and will be a nobody compared to Luongo until he strings consecutive 30 or 40 win seasons together AND shows up big in the important playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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