They're only in conflict because you wish to twist them that way.
I didn't twist a thing. I simply highlighted them. The conflict was inherently visible.
Premeditated motive and intent is really irrelevant when someone kills another person, although, not according to the bureaucracy that is the court system in the US. Going into the intent is really just going into technicalities.. pointlessly, in this case surrounding execution in my scenario.
Irrelevant? To a homicide case?? Just a pointless technicality??
No, if you read my post, not if they are executed with expediency, taxpayer costs to kill death row inmates aren't that high solely from the cost of killing them but the long process of keeping them in jail, giving them the luxurious treatment, then killing them. An expedient execution for the most heinous crimes removes that element and it no longer becomes costly.
Expeditious executions leads to innocent people being put to death, because of mistakes. They've been tried in the past. They don't work. This is why there's a lengthy appeal and rigorous defence process. If you want quick executions then perhaps build a time machine to travel back to the Wild West, or purchase a domicile in Saudi Arabia. The Islamic theocratic gov't will ensure a quick and entertaining executions for your viewing pleasure. You won't have to worry about due process there.
Because the process takes so long to go through, get rid of that perpetuity of defence, give a chance to show how the most obvious crime is in fact a lie and once they inevitably fail put them to death immediately. No muss, no fuss, no insane taxpayer costs.. middleground.
The defence isn't perpetual, it's limited. Sometimes the most obvious crimes from the surface aren't and evidence can come to light later on. Quick executions would put innocent people to death unnecessarily and mistakenly. That is a muss, there would be a fuss, and the lawsuits against the gov't would certainly be borne by the taxpayers.
A person killing another person, especially on video, is pretty black and white to me. By your logic, we can't trust that a rover landed on Mars.. you know, because things are so confusing.
Nope, it isn't black and white. It can be fuzzy, distorted, blocked, unclear, not show the full scene, etc, much like a rover on Mars. Also, it doesn't show what led up to the killing. It may not show a case of self-defence. It would simply show the act of killing. That's not enough to convict someone.
Edited by Sharpshooter, 09 August 2012 - 02:19 AM.