NoShowWilly Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 we need a prospect to make the jump. This team does not have the tradable assets required to get a top six forward through trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Jensen and Kassian have great futures, but they are ready or they are not. I wouldn't want to push them into roles. Powerforwards just need a bit of age to them. Hard to intimidate grizzled vets with a babyface. Also you could see Kassian (like any mortal) was in young player awe of the superstars he was skating with and against. I don't now if there is a trade with LU that can get what we need, but Raymond is not the answer, so if we are relying on kids being able to step up, better hope they are ready for the task. This is supposed to be a contender, not a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Seriously? If you really thing that all we need is hard work, you're wrong. Just because we make it to the playoffs every year and made it it to ONE final since '94, that doesn't mean squat all. In fact, it means nothing at all. How many finals did the Kings make it to? But they have a cup no? I'd rather miss the playoffs and make our team better rather than have a chance every year and blow it every time. I don't know about you, but I want to see a god damn cup at least in my lifetime, and if we don't make bold moves that will NEVER happen. You don't need to be a hockey analyst to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 They both made bold moves... I'm not saying LA only won because of that. They made trades that made their top 6 better, something that we need to do. And Philly will be rewarded soon, just wait and see. Are you seriously saying that we don't need to make any moves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 They both made bold moves... I'm not saying LA only won because of that. They made trades that made their top 6 better, something that we need to do. And Philly will be rewarded soon, just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Chum: verb (used without object) 3. to associate closely. 4. to share a room or rooms with another, especially in a dormitory at a college or prep school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Chum: verb (used without object) 3. to associate closely. 4. to share a room or rooms with another, especially in a dormitory at a college or prep school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 After the Doan fiasco ( what a waste of time waiting for his answer) I don't see any top 6 additions unless arnott signs and maybe a young gun like Jensen impresses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 And I think you are missing my point, chum. What I'm suggesting here is that LA's "bold moves" paid off because of an outside factor, in this case that Quick played phenomenally well. Without Quick, LA's moves don't look as bright, do they? The Kings were not showing any great signs of improvement from the acquisition of Richards. Carter did contribute 6 goals in the regular season and 8 goals in the playoffs, as did Kopitar and Brown. Doughty, Williams and even Penner each had pretty good playoffs, and none of them would have had 20 games to get all of those points if Quick hadn't played the way he did. Quick was the deciding factor in these past playoffs, and without him LA doesn't make it make it past the second round. And while we're at it, Sutter was pretty important too, right? Both of these guys (Quick and Sutter) were by far more important to LA's success than Richards and/or Carter. You are seriously using "seriously" a lot... seriously. How do you jump to the conclusion that I believe the Canucks do not "...need to make any moves" from my previous post? Not once did I mention Vancouver's situation. My comments were restricted to La's situation and that of the Flyers' which made for a nice compare and contrast in that both of the big names that the Flyers dumped turned up in LA. I do suggest that the Canucks do not/did not have the same amount of quality assets who were disposable to their team as LA. Were the Canucks to make "bold moves", just who could they have traded at last season's deadline? Schneider? Edler? Hodgson? Booth? Burrows? Higgins? Hansen? Raymond? Ballard? Tanev? Picks? Other prospects? These are the guys who would have been the likely candidates to be moved, and no, I have not included anybody with a NTC/NMC on that list, and do remember to leave all 20/20 observations as the quality of their play over the last part of the season and playoffs at the door. I see the general feeling on these forums as being that (from the above list) only Schneider or Edler could serve as the center piece of a significant trade. The team needs were (and perhaps still are), a top-6 right winger, another top-4 d-man and perhaps a 3rd line center. If the Canucks traded Edler, they haven't done anything to fill that gap on defence, unless this trade was for some "superstar" d-man, and just who would be giving up a guy like that if their team had a shot at the playoffs? And if they didn't, what kind of a price would they want in addition to Schneider or Edler? Colombus got Johnson and a conditional 1st for Carter, and that trade was pretty close to being a contract/salary dump by Colombus. If the Canucks did pick up a top-6 winger, how much better off would the team be without Edler on defense and/or without Schneider backing up Luongo in case of issues in goal? And no, I do not believe that Hodgson and a 1st gets the Canucks a player like Richards or Carter. This is where my contention enters, that the Canucks didn't have the "disposable" parts which LA had available to trade, and the reason for this was because of the Canucks' better record for the past decade. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead420 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't know where the insults are coming from, but touche. I just think Luongo (fully aware of the fact that he will be moved) would probably get a little frustrated sitting around, waiting for Gillis to trade him "until the time is right." And the meantime, he goes out there and fetches us wins. Forgive me for seeing it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Kesler's face looks a lot like Cammalleri's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostdivision Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 And I think you are missing my point, chum. What I'm suggesting here is that LA's "bold moves" paid off because of an outside factor, in this case that Quick played phenomenally well. Without Quick, LA's moves don't look as bright, do they? The Kings were not showing any great signs of improvement from the acquisition of Richards. Carter did contribute 6 goals in the regular season and 8 goals in the playoffs, as did Kopitar and Brown. Doughty, Williams and even Penner each had pretty good playoffs, and none of them would have had 20 games to get all of those points if Quick hadn't played the way he did. Quick was the deciding factor in these past playoffs, and without him LA doesn't make it make it past the second round. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Should've packaged Schneider for Nash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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