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#1 bure's triple deke

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:04 PM

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"I had a great six years in Vancouver... Unfortunately, I was not able to bring a Stanley Cup there. Probably my biggest regret."

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Here's a likely suprising fact about Roberto Luongo. At 339 regular season wins, he stands behind only Curtis Joseph (454) and John Vanbiesbrouck (374) as the most prolific goaltender in NHL history not to win a Stanley Cup. (See the all-time wins list here.) At age 33, it stands to reason that Luongo has a legitimate shot at topping the list before he calls it a career. And by as early as next season, if he's not still mired as a backup in Vancouver, he will likely surpass the Beezer for a dubious second place ranking.


Of the three hard-luck goalies, Luongo has come the closest with a Game 7 in the Finals to his credit. Vanbiesbrouck made it as far as the 1996 Finals with the Panthers, where they were swept by Colorado, while Joseph has two third round appearances (1999, 2002) to his name as a Maple Leaf. Coincidentally, Florida and Toronto represent the two most likely destinations for the Canucks' three-time Vezina nominee.

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Now, the Canucks may not be the sure-fire contender they were two years ago, but you have to think his best shot would have been with the Sedins and a healthy Kesler playing in front of him. I won't even begin to consider the Maple Leafs' merits as a championship team, largely in part to their complete absence of any. But Florida, which Luongo has already personally earmarked as his next destination, represents a scenario brighter than it initially seems.

Having already taken the current Eastern Conference champs to a seventh game in the opening round, the Panthers are a young team that are only getting better. Nobody's going to accuse Florida's goaltending for their playoff exit (their netminders posted a combined 2.41 GAA and .920 save percentage), but as long as Jose Theodore and Scott Clemensen is your tandem in net, you're not getting confused for a Cup contender either. Consider Luongo a hefty step in the right direction.

Assume the Panthers do land him. The invariable question is: Can Luongo remain an elite goalie¹ long enough for their young-and-upcoming roster to catch up to his level? If the conditions are right – and Panthers GM Dale Tallon accomplishes the same kind of rebuild that Canucks fans are all too familiar with in Chicago – there is a remote possibility Luongo could do with the Panthers what he couldn't here.

And when it comes to a player as consistently successful as Luongo has been in this league, if he does end up having another sniff at the Cup, you are almost required to root for him. Not because he was once our own, but for the same reason you cheered for guys like Ray Bourque and Dave Andreychuk when they finally got their moments.

You might knock him for some of his playoff performances as a Canuck. And you might be glad his days in Vancouver are numbered. But in the grand scheme of things, Luongo doesn't deserve the Cujo fate. Not for someone with three Vezina nominations. Not for someone who practically carried the Canucks in his first three years here. And not for someone with 339 wins.

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¹ This is assuming you belong to the 50% of hockey fans in Vancouver that believe Luongo is, indeed, still an elite goalie.
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#2 Dogbyte

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:11 PM

If Florida wins the CUP before we do I'll cry.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:12 PM

The asterix made me LOL :lol:
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

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Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:15 PM

Another great article by Bures Triple Deke :)
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:16 PM

Pointless stats really
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CanucksSayEh, on 12 March 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:
When the playoffs come around, nobody is scared of getting in a fight, but every night, they get their mom to check under the bed for Raffi Torres.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:22 PM

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Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


What a weird thing to say. These are the names of the best goaltenders to never win a cup. Arguably only one goalie wins the cup each year, so unless there is only ever one elite goalie in the league and whoever is that goalie wins the cup every year, there is bound to be some elite goalies who never win it.

Give your head a shake if you think none of those guys are elite. Especially Lu.
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#8 Jägermeister

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:22 PM

Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


Ed Giacomin is undoubtedly an elite goaltender.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:28 PM

Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


Cujo was pretty amazing when he was with Edmonton.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:29 PM

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Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


Hextall is on his way to your house to punch you.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:38 PM

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Lu is one of the best goalies in the game today(top 7)

canucks fans are the worst in the league(bottom 5)
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:40 PM

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Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:40 PM

What a weird thing to say. These are the names of the best goaltenders to never win a cup. Arguably only one goalie wins the cup each year, so unless there is only ever one elite goalie in the league and whoever is that goalie wins the cup every year, there is bound to be some elite goalies who never win it.

Give your head a shake if you think none of those guys are elite. Especially Lu.


Luo doesnt even have as good of a record as kipper kipper is the only one with a win % above .500 cujo had a team in edmonton like they do now but he actually got them into the playoffs and was the biggest part of them knocking off the top seeds. hextall is one of the only 2 goalies to lose in the finals and win the conn smyth.. luongo small part of the best team in the league in the last 2 years and has never raised his game in the playoffs...
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:44 PM

LOL, Kipper with 599 games
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:46 PM

Great job. A CDC'er that can articulate hockey history.Bravo!
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:51 PM

luongo small part of the best team in the league in the last 2 years and has never raised his game in the playoffs...

..... three Vezina nominations.
......someone who practically carried the Canucks in his first three years here.
339 wins.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

Didn't read all of that, but if Luongo goes back to Florida and wins a cup, doesn't that make his overall career much more theirs than ours?

I like the Panthers more than many other teams he could go to. But that's because they've been lovable losers. Let's say Florida's path to a cup with Luongo has to go through Schneider and the Canucks. The hate for Luongo would be amped way up then, y'think?

But if he goes to TO, he's dead to me.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

I read an article comparing stats of Lou VS Theodore ans Clemmenson with Marchison waiting in the wings. Lou gives them 1/8 of a goal per game over the tandem. How much do you think Florida is going to pay for that tiny improvement? Not that bushel full Canuck fans are hoping for !!!
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:54 PM

Lu is one of the best goalies in the game today(top 7)

canucks fans are the worst in the league(bottom 5)

Not top 7 last year 14 and 16th !!
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:10 PM

if florida wins the cup with him... :mad:
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:36 PM

Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


you'er clueless.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:46 PM

Not 1 elite goaltender on that list.


Kipprusoft is/ was an elite goalie... He won the Vezina a couple of years ago. And that has to be considered elite
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:53 PM

I just had to say you spelled Miikka wrong on your top 10 list. But good article. I hope he has a ton of success once he leaves. Unless it's against the Canucks, I'll be cheering for his team.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:19 PM

With and without Luo:

2011-2012-First in Division,Conference and League
2010-2011-First in Division,Conference and League
2009-2010-First in Division,third in Conference and fifth in League
2008-2009-First in Division,fifth in Conference and seventh in League
2007-2008-Last in Division, eleventh in Conference and twenty first in League
2006-2007-First in Division,third in Conference and eight in League -Luongo's first year

2005-2006--Fourth in Division,Ninth in Conference and seventeenth in League
2004-2005-Lockout
2003-2004-First in Division,third in Conference and seventh in League
2002-2003-Second in Division,fourth in Conference and sixth in League
2001-2002-Second in Division,eighth in Conference and thirteenth in League
2000-2001-Third in Division,eight in Conference and fifteenth in League
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:30 PM

luongo small part of the best team in the league in the last 2 years and has never raised his game in the playoffs...


This tells me you became a Canucks fan after 2011. 2007 is your answer my friend.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:41 PM

Not top 7 last year 14 and 16th !!

Another blind hater that only looks at the bad and not the good. Well here's his stats for 2010-11 bud

Record: 38-15-7
GAA: 2.11
SV%: .928

That's good for top 3 in the league in all categories.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:48 PM

With Schneider

2013-2014-First in Division,Conference and League. Stanley Cup.
2012-2013-Lockout

With and without Luo:

2011-2012-First in Division,Conference and League
2010-2011-First in Division,Conference and League
2009-2010-First in Division,third in Conference and fifth in League
2008-2009-First in Division,fifth in Conference and seventh in League
2007-2008-Last in Division, eleventh in Conference and twenty first in League
2006-2007-First in Division,third in Conference and eight in League -Luongo's first year

2005-2006--Fourth in Division,Ninth in Conference and seventeenth in League
2004-2005-Lockout
2003-2004-First in Division,third in Conference and seventh in League
2002-2003-Second in Division,fourth in Conference and sixth in League
2001-2002-Second in Division,eighth in Conference and thirteenth in League
2000-2001-Third in Division,eight in Conference and fifteenth in League


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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:58 PM

If Florida wins the CUP before we do I'll cry.


Me too, although honestly I am really not too worried about that.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:03 PM

With Schneider

2013-2014-First in Division,Conference and League. Stanley Cup.
2012-2013-Lockout


You don't know that...
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:07 PM

..... three Vezina nominations.
......someone who practically carried the Canucks in his first three years here.
339 wins.


2 Vezina nominations in Vancouver - 0 wins.
I dont agree that he carried the Canucks in his first 3 years here.
In year 1 he did, but he was helped a lot by our defense-first system.
In year 2 he didn't carry us anywhere as we missed the playoffs.
In year 3 he was very good but only played 54 games and our team had learned to score some goals by this point.
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