smurf47 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 And you think MG doesn't want to keep two #1 goalies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Schnieder's value would be more but it's not because he's the better goalie, it's because of his age and contract. He could also go to any team in the leauge so there would be bigger market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Oh, OK. So neither you nor Smashian Kassian see the value - cap space - in having one contract expiring in 2014, versus the other one expiring 6 years later. Bryz proved what he is last year; an average goaltender who's stats were inflated playing in Phoenix's system (like Smith's are today), and, worse, he's a loudmouth and a headcase. Give me Komisarek with a contract expiring in 2014 over Bryzgalov with a contract expiring in 2020 very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 actually...he IS a better goalie ....and his age and contract are better ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I assume I was comparing Schneider to Luongo in that post, it was a while and I don't want to find it. It's hard to compare Luongo to Schneider. Schneider has played a small fraction of the games Luongo has and Schneider has yet to play a full season as a team's starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Just because Luongo has played more games does not mean he's better than Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 No but it does mean he is more proven. If they both had the same contract that Schneider has, Luongo would be more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 No but it does mean he is more proven. If they both had the same contract that Schneider has, Luongo would be more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 In your dreams , more valuable. Proven can mean a lot of different things. Lou has proven to be inconsistant from game to game, has proven that hes not on par with top notch goalies(Quick) in the playoffs. Being middle of the pack in stats last year, proved hes just above average in NHL last year...and..yes, Schneider proved last year that hes better than Lou...and by a long shot !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yet this is the guy that, according to you, can bring Ryan Johansen to Vancouver. Good luck with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 On Bryzgalov: I see Calgary as a possible destination-for Kiprusoff. If Philly threw in a couple of their excellent young forwards(eg: Courtourier, Voracek, or Read). The Flyers lose some depth; yet rid themselves of a major blunder, turning it into a positional strength. In Calgary, Bryzgalov might stop blabbing & simply focus on his job. Then if they swung a similar deal with Iginla, the Flames could have a young, resurgent squad worth watching. For the Canucks, we're going all the way this year with the incredible-duo. After a championship-run-teams will overpay for Mr Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 On Bryzgalov: I see Calgary as a possible destination-for Kiprusoff. If Philly threw in a couple of their excellent young forwards(eg: Courtourier, Voracek, or Read). The Flyers lose some depth; yet rid themselves of a major blunder, turning it into a positional strength. In Calgary, Bryzgalov might stop blabbing & simply focus on his job. Then if they swung a similar deal with Iginla, the Flames could have a young, resurgent squad worth watching. For the Canucks, we're going all the way this year with the incredible-duo. After a championship-run-teams will overpay for Mr Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Assuming there is a season and the Canucks win the Stanley Cup, why would anyone overpay for the backup goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Assuming there is a season and the Canucks win the Stanley Cup, why would anyone overpay for the backup goalie? Because BOTH of our fine 'tenders will get a shot(eg:minor injury, flu, etc...), & both will play brilliantly. A little optimism is occasionally warranted. So how do you like Bryz in Cowtown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Why? Because the guy is a very good hockey player. The Avalanche paid a pretty hefty price for Varlamov, and TB traded 3 picks+ for Lindback. They were back-ups. And Luongo is by far the better player compared to either of these. And prior to last season, how big a price would anyone pay for Schneider, who was the Canucks' back-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Luongo is simply not comparable, whatsoever, to anyone that you've mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 Briere is more proven than Giroux - but nobody in their right mind would take the former over the latter. It's similar here. Luongo is a declining asset, and Schneider is just hitting his peak. And Corey has been putting up some of the best numbers in the league at his position. Schneider is worth FAR more than Luongo, regardless of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 That's a poor analogy. Schneider has NEVER been the #1 goalie for an entire season. He has good numbers but he was in a good situation to put up good numbers. If you have a young defenceman who played 30 games in a season but he just played on the #1 PP unit and in offensive situation and put up 20 points and compare that to a veteran defenceman who plays the entire season and plays against the oppositions best players and plays less on the PP and gets 30 points, it doesn't mean the young guy is better. It means he is less proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnorFutureGM Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 then , what is your excuse for the poorer season that Lou posted? He got yanked once every 11 games, proved his inconsistancy and Schneider excelled at every opportunity. If you knew anything about goaltending, it would be obvious to you who is better. Schneider is better in every facet except puck handling , where they both are below standard ! the floor is yours !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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