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#1 Harbinger

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:00 AM

A Surrey resident is recovering in hospital after he was shot with his own gun while chasing off what he believed was a suspicious individual.
“All I can tell you is that there was a suspicious person in the area and the resident ... received a gunshot wound from his own gun while outside his property,” said Staff-Sgt. Blair McColl of the incident, which happened just after 8 p.m. in the 12500-block 70A Avenue.
The man was taken to hospital and is expected to make a full recovery. It’s unclear whether the gun was shot by himself or another individual, or whether a confrontation took place.
Police will not be investigating any further.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:05 AM

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People need to leave the heroics to the professionals.


The professionals dont do sqaut.

Edited by debluvscanucks, 13 January 2013 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:05 AM

Heroics or just territorial? If you wake up an hear a strange noise don't you check it out? No one would complain if you had a golf club or a baseball bat right?
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

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The professionals dont do squat



Getting yourself shot by your own gun. That would be the definition of less.....

Edited by debluvscanucks, 13 January 2013 - 04:39 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

Heroics or just territorial? If you wake up an hear a strange noise don't you check it out? No one would complain if you had a golf club or a baseball bat right?



He tried to play the big man and he ended up being shot. That is Irony.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:14 AM

Too bad he was not packing a semi-auto .. he could have done serious damage ..
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

Was he American?

Goes to show you that in a crisis situation, most people don't know how to handle a gun....
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

I walked right by a police scene downtown yesterday morning. Maybe this was it.

Ah nm this wasn't what I saw. I read in the paper there was another shooting downtown they found a guy shot in the alley.

Edited by Special Ed, 13 January 2013 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:37 AM

Was he American?

Goes to show you that in a crisis situation, most people don't know how to handle a gun....


That is so true. And they say citizens should have guns to protect themselves. It seems they do more damage to themselves with their own gun than protecting themselves or anyone.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

I consider myself a professional ever though i haven't ever shot a gun
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:04 PM

That is so true. And they say citizens should have guns to protect themselves. It seems they do more damage to themselves with their own gun than protecting themselves or anyone.

That is what the studies show. You are many more times likely to be shot or killed with your own firearm or shoot or kill a family member, friend or guest in your home than some faceless criminal.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

The professionals dont do squat.


except taze you.

Edited by debluvscanucks, 13 January 2013 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

That is what the studies show. You are many more times likely to be shot or killed with your own firearm or shoot or kill a family member, friend or guest in your home than some faceless criminal.


Tell that to Alex Jones. ;)
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

I love Surrey.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

And if you do in fact shoot someone you can go to jail - even in Surrey.


When Steven Brandon Mulligan-Brum apologized in court last month for shooting and killing a teen on a Surrey street in 2010, he said he was foolish, had grown up since then and hoped the victim's family would forgive him.


But during his sentencing in New Westminster Supreme Court on Wednesday (May 30), Justice Elizabeth Arnold-Bailey said she didn't buy it and didn't feel Mulligan-Brum was at all remorseful for taking 16-year-old Adem Aliu's life.


"His delivery in court was devoid of any real emotion," she said, noting he was not struggling to stay composed and seemed to talk mostly about how his own life had been impacted.


Arnold-Bailey handed Mulligan-Brum a sentence of seven years, minus two-and-a-half years credit for time served since his arrest, meaning he'll spend another four-and-a-half years in prison.


Mulligan-Brum, 22, pleaded guilty last year to manslaughter for shooting Aliu to death in the early hours of July 14, 2010.


Aliu and a group of about six teens were drinking and roaming the area near 141 Street and 103 Avenue, allegedly vandalizing cars, including a BMW owned by Mulligan-Brum.


Mulligan-Brum was inside his home at the time, and after hearing a ruckus on the street, went outside and around a corner, carrying with him a loaded handgun. He fired two shots in the direction of the group. One of the bullets struck Aliu in the head, killing him.


Defence lawyer Lawrence Myers said his client had a gun in his possession for protection because he felt his own life and that of his family might be in danger. Meyers argued Mulligan-Brum had no intention of killing anyone and was immediately remorseful.


But Justice Arnold-Bailey noted he didn't go to police, and instead hid the gun and waited for police to come to him. The shooting also took place while Mulligan-Brum was on probation for a prior offense and was prohibited from possessing weapons. He has past convictions for uttering threats and drug trafficking.


Mulligan-Brum displayed behaviour considered "truly abhorrent" in a civilized community, said Arnold-Bailey, calling his actions "profoundly" careless, thoughtless and misguided. Still, she credited Mulligan-Brum for furthering his education while in custody and said she's hopeful he can be rehabilitated.


In a victim-impact statement last month from Aliu's adoptive father, Nezir Alija, said the teen was a good student, a talented soccer player and wanted to become an air traffic controller. He had come to Canada from Kosovo in 2006 for a better life, Alija said.

http://www.surreylea.../155779915.html

And if you try to exact vigilante justice you can end up dead as Sam McGowan and his family learned to their regret:



The teen who stabbed Surrey dad Sam McGowan in the chest, killing him in the summer of 2009, has been ordered to serve a three-year intensive rehabilitation and custody sentence.


He will spend six months of those three years in a youth detention centre, with the remainder of the sentence spent in a rehabilitation and counselling program – the terms of which have yet to be determined.


The 17-year-old, who has already served one month of his prison term and who cannot be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, was convicted of manslaughter last June and was sentenced in New Westminster Supreme Court this morning (Jan. 27).


He was just 15 years old in August 2009 when he and a buddy committed two robberies, stealing cellphones from other teens – one of whom was McGowan's son.



McGowan, 42, gave chase, eventually finding the youth hiding behind a tent trailer in the yard of a neighbourhood home. McGowan yelled and the teen ran. He then turned around, facing the victim with a knife, and plunged it into McGowan's chest, killing him.


The youth was initially charged with second-degree murder, but was found guilty of the lesser charge of manslaughter by a jury. The defence argued the young man feared for his life. He also pleaded guilty to two robbery charges during the trial.


In December, the teen apologized in court, saying "I am disgusted with the way I behaved...it's something I'm going to regret for the rest of my life."


His lawyer, David Tarnow, said Friday his client, who has no prior criminal record, was "very disappointed" with the sentence because he felt he'd been doing well since his arrest.


In court, Justice Laura Gerow acknowledged the sentence was in no way a measure of the value of the victim's life.


"There is nothing this court can do to fix the pain.


"No sentence will ever restore him to you."


McGowan's family and friends cried and hugged one another following the sentencing. They said while the accused did not receive a lot of jail time, six months is more than they expected, and they were pleased to see him led from the courthouse in handcuffs.


McGowan's girlfriend Michelle Proulx said she feels for other victims of crime she sees in the news.


"Knowing what we've already gone through and knowing that they're going to be going through this now...


"The case is over now but it's never going to be over ... because seeing what's been going on is a constant reminder," she said of recent violent crimes.


Madison, Proulx's 11-year-old daughter, said McGowan was like a father to her.


"Sometimes I wonder what would've happened if Sam wasn't killed. Would my mom and him be married like they had planned?"


Proulx's older daughter Macky said her mom and McGowan had a "puppy love" type of relationship.


"He had the power to make everyone happy," said Macky. "He tried to make the best of the worst situations."


Longtime family friend Mae Ward encouraged other parents to "stay vigilante" with their kids.


"See who they're talking to on Facebook... wonder where they're going, why they're sneaking stuff into their pocket. Where are they during these hours during the day? What are they doing?

http://www.surreylea.../138208034.html

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

How did he manage that? :lol:
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

That is what the studies show. You are many more times likely to be shot or killed with your own firearm or shoot or kill a family member, friend or guest in your home than some faceless criminal.

Naw, it just proves that Canadian males are less competent in defending themselves guns than 12 year old American girls.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

That is so true. And they say citizens should have guns to protect themselves. It seems they do more damage to themselves with their own gun than protecting themselves or anyone.


Indeed. I wonder what would have happened in the Aurora theatre shooting for example if it hadn't banned guns and 4-5 of the moviegoers were "packing heat". How would any of them have known who was the bad guy, who were his accomplices, and who were the good guys trying to take them out?
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

Was he American?

Goes to show you that in a crisis situation, most people don't know how to handle a gun....


This was far from a crisis situation. Pulling a gun in this situation was definitely not warranted. American mentality at it's finest though, he's lucky he only shot himself. He could easily be going to jail for manslaughter.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

Naw, it just proves that Canadian males are less competent in defending themselves guns than 12 year old American girls.

The studies are American.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

The studies are American.

I'm pretty sure those studies have been discredited, just like I'm pretty sure the 12 year old girl and the mother in these news stories I posted recently didn't manage to shoot themselves. I guess they're the only one prefeshunal enuff to use firearms?
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

I'm pretty sure those studies have been discredited, just like I'm pretty sure the 12 year old girl and the mother in these news stories I posted recently didn't manage to shoot themselves. I guess they're the only one prefeshunal enuff to use firearms?

No they have not been discredited.

They have been validated through peer review and by Harvard University School of Public Health's Injury Research Center that specializes in firearms research and studies.
http://www.hsph.harv...efense-gun-use/
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:37 PM

That is what the studies show. You are many more times likely to be shot or killed with your own firearm or shoot or kill a family member, friend or guest in your home than some faceless criminal.


They need a study correlating the amount of training one has with a firearm and how often "accidents" will occur. Seems to me that most of the people having accidental shootings are probably the same loafs that probably have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.


As for the guy who discharged the gun, was it even a registered weapon or illegal? If all the paperwork is in order... time to make the firearms course more difficult... plus throw in an IQ test on it too. More education is key.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

How did he manage that? :lol:


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

They need a study correlating the amount of training one has with a firearm and how often "accidents" will occur. Seems to me that most of the people having accidental shootings are probably the same loafs that probably have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.


As for the guy who discharged the gun, was it even a registered weapon or illegal? If all the paperwork is in order... time to make the firearms course more difficult... plus throw in an IQ test on it too. More education is key.

They don't need a study for common sense, more training = fewer accidents.

The other element that cannot be equated to training is stupidity. Think Dick Cheney.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rGnMKszxg


Wow...dumbass puts his finger on the trigger before taking it out. :picard:

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