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#1 timberz21

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

To Philly :

Luongo
Ballard

To Vancouver

Philly 1st 2014
Bryzgalov
Voracek (Couturier and Schenn is out of the question for Philly, maybe even Voracek)


To take on Bryz's contract is not ideal, but it

EDIT : all my reasoning didn't go through and im too lazy to it again. My all point was Philly 1st my be worth a lot with their bad start, Hartnell, Mezsraos and Briere (back soon) are injured.

Edited by timberz21, 25 January 2013 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:21 PM

woooo :towel:

Edited by shawn antoski, 25 January 2013 - 02:22 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:41 PM

To Philly :

Luongo
Ballard

To Vancouver

Philly 1st 2014
Bryzgalov
Voracek (Couturier and Schenn is out of the question for Philly, maybe even Voracek)


To take on Bryz's contract is not ideal, but it


But it...is worth it? Can be bought out in the summer?

I'd definitely do it, but I'm not sure Philly would go that extreme for Luongo.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:58 PM

Typical CDC trade. Luongo and Ballard for something worth WAY more.
Luongo>Bryzgalov
Voracek>>>>>>Ballard
Philly 1st>>>>>>>Nothing
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:59 PM

It's not happening

Edited by MarchandSucks, 25 January 2013 - 03:00 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

If we're doing Philly a favour by taking Bryz and giving them a better goalie and defensive help amidst their injuries, I'd hope we'd get a better return than Voracek and a 1st. I only say better as Voracek has a good sized cap hit himself and we'll have to find someone other than Ballard to drop to get under the cap for next year.

If you just try and look at them as names on a page then it doesn't look good for Philly, but we take back a huge risk in Bryz that we'd have to pay for long term in a buy out scenario. That makes it a lot worse for us than it looks.

EDIT: let me rephrase. Gillis is looking for a player, prospect and pick for Luongo. Voracek is a better than expected option for a player, and we get a great pick, but they also pawn off Bryz on us while we give them Ballard for help on their injury depleted D. It's not bad, but I don't think it's a deal that would be accepted on both sides.

Edited by elvis15, 25 January 2013 - 03:24 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

If we're doing Philly a favour by taking Bryz and giving them a better goalie and defensive help amidst their injuries, I'd hope we'd get a better return than Voracek and a 1st. I only say better as Voracek has a good sized cap hit himself and we'll have to find someone other than Ballard to drop to get under the cap for next year.

If you just try and look at them as names on a page then it doesn't look good for Philly, but we take back a huge risk in Bryz that we'd have to pay for long term in a buy out scenario. That makes it a lot worse for us than it looks.

EDIT: let me rephrase. Gillis is looking for a player, prospect and pick for Luongo. Voracek is a better than expected option for a player, and we get a great pick, but they also pawn off Bryz on us while we give them Ballard for help on their injury depleted D. It's not bad, but I don't think it's a deal that would be accepted on both sides.


Forgot to even take that into account
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

Typical CDC trade. Luongo and Ballard for something worth WAY more.
Luongo>Bryzgalov
Voracek>>>>>>Ballard
Philly 1st>>>>>>>Nothing
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Luongo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryzgalov

The rest of your evaluations are right but the point is we rid them of that terrible contract and give them and exceptional upgrade that they have been needing for years.

Ballard isn't as bad as he looks, certaintly not near the value of Voracek, but he is a capable top 4 guy IMO and for Philly it would look good for them since they need defense and they just got rid of a horrendous contract, so they can surely take on one that isn't favorable if it adds to a need.

Then the 1st is compensation for us having to take on the burden that is Bryzgalov.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 25 January 2013 - 05:16 PM.

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