uber_pwnzor Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Teams follow the Chicago method now. Get a bunch of young guys, go for (and hopefully win) the cup, and then dismantle the team. That's the new paradigm for NHL success, it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyTimeWithJeffCarter Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Oilers are set, Horcoff is gone in a few years afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass9 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 They've got to be the most overrated team right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So much for the Oilers being able to gel in Oklahoma and carry it over to the NHL. Hopkins has simply not produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understand Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 All the "superstars" in the lineup, yet, the Oilers are in last place year after year....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt 'n Kass Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Someone needs to tell the Oilers that the "suck to get a bunch of young stars" phase of the plan is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 They can hold onto these players for a good long time. But ether way it's a good problem to have. Why would a team want to say they don't have to worry about the cap because the caliber talent of there roster is so poor they won't ever have to worry about paying them? Plus keep in mind if they all develop and warrant those big paychecks they could still trade 1 away and get a huge return. Another superstar talent or elite prospects and high draft picks. Someone needs to tell the Oilers that the "suck to get a bunch of young stars" phase of the plan is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Wilson Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 They can hold onto these players for a good long time. But ether way it's a good problem to have. Why would a team want to say they don't have to worry about the cap because the caliber talent of there roster is so poor they won't ever have to worry about paying them? Plus keep in mind if they all develop and warrant those big paychecks they could still trade 1 away and get a huge return. Another superstar talent or elite prospects and high draft picks. Well keep in mind you have to give prospects time to develop. When Pittsburgh did it they had an easier time signing Free Agents and they still sucked. A roster that featured.. - Sidney Crosby - Mario Lemieux - Mark Recchi - John Leclair - Zigmund Palfy - Sergei Gonchar - Marc-Andre Fluery - Brooks Oprik - Ryan Malone - Ryan Whitney etc. Team finished with 58 points in 29th of 30 teams. The next season they had 105 points with most of those guys gone. It will likely just turn on like a switch for Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 If they don't sign for more then 6 million each they will be fine...... But as we all know, its more then just having a bunch of 1st overall picks to make a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I remember when this same topic was labelled; "The Pittsburgh Penguins are financially screwed for the future" And they still have Crosby and Malkin to go with Fleury and many others. I don't see why Edmonton wouldn't be able to keep most of their guys long-term and stay (they are getting there) competitive at the same time. One or two of them might get moved anyways with time as players evolve differently than expected and they might end up needing something different. It'll work itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I remember when this same topic was labelled; "The Pittsburgh Penguins are financially screwed for the future" And they still have Crosby and Malkin to go with Fleury and many others. I don't see why Edmonton wouldn't be able to keep most of their guys long-term and stay (they are getting there) competitive at the same time. One or two of them might get moved anyways with time as players evolve differently than expected and they might end up needing something different. It'll work itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 There's a difference between Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Fleury and Nugent/Hall/Eberle/Yakupov/Schultz/Dubnyk. One of them have the 2 best players in the world and the other team has guys that don't have the potential to be better than Crosby/Malkin. If Eberle/Hall is already making 6 million next year, why wouldn't Nugent or Yakupov get 6 million after their ELC are done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't think it is fair to look at teenage and very early 20 year old players and automatically state there potential as if if were in stone. Especially considering you listed Kris Letang who was a 3rd round pick who far surpassed his judged potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 its safe to say none will be better than Malkin/Crosby. Letang has been solid for the Penguins ever since he joined the lineup also had good potential even though he was drafted in the 3rd. These guys didn't just get good over night. These guys have been good and consistent ever since they joined the NHL. Look at the first 2 seasons of their careers Malkin 191 points Crosby 222 points Hall 95 points Eberle 119 point Crosby more points than both and Malkin almost does. Its not even comparable. There's a only a few people who have as much potential like Stamkos, Tavaris I don't know whats more bothering, the Penguins can win without Crosby, Malkin or that Edmonton can't win with Hall, Eberle, schultz, yakupov, dubnyk in the lineup? but "the Penguins general sucess really is not carried by either player" is not quite accurate. During the years where they got to the SC finals and when they won the stanley cup Regular season Malkin--------------------------------------Crosby---------------------------------------Next leading scorer 07-08 47g 59a 106p--------------------07-08 24g 48a 72p (52gp)--------------07-08 12g 53a 65p (Gonchar) 08-09 35g 78a 113p--------------------08-09 33g 70p 103p---------------------08-09 22g 27a 49p (staal) postseason Malkin--------------------------------------Crosby---------------------------------------Next leading scorer 08 10g 12a 22p--------------------------08 6g 21a 27p-----------------------------08 12g 14a 26p (Hossa) 09 14g 22a 36p--------------------------09 15g 16a 31p---------------------------09 7g 8a 15p (Guerin) would say when they are both healthy and playing the team always has a chance at winning the cup and were huge in those 2 playoff runs with both stepping up their game in 09 to capture that stanley cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingArcher Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Everyone nowadays seems to be fearing the abundance of talent that the Edmonton Oilers have been blessed with over the past couple of years; with the likes of Yakupov, Nugent-Hopkins, Hall, and Eberle, and for good reason Oilers fans should be excited; although, if I'm Steve Tambellini, I'm not too excited about the future. Think about it, you've got 4 potential superstars (Eberle has already evolved into one) as well as another young denfensive dynamo in Justin Schultz. Pretty soon, if all of these players live up to their potential, there is no doubt that they will want to get paid the amount they are worth. It would be a perfect scenario for Edmonton if each player was generous enough to take pay cuts, but hockey is a business and there will always be that greedy player that's "in it for the money"... With 3 first overall picks... I think it will be really hard to keep ALL of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 That's why there's such a thing as restricted free agency. Unless they can win now, other teams will offer big bucks to these guys and the Oilers will receive compensation. They really should've been far more aggressive earlier at free agency, and perhaps traded for better blueliners, but once they get going, they'll soon overtake Vancouver as the next divisional powerhouse, even if they miss the boat to signing these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass9 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Overrated team, only player I'd love to have is Ebs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt 'n Kass Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Well keep in mind you have to give prospects time to develop. When Pittsburgh did it they had an easier time signing Free Agents and they still sucked. A roster that featured.. - Sidney Crosby - Mario Lemieux - Mark Recchi - John Leclair - Zigmund Palfy - Sergei Gonchar - Marc-Andre Fluery - Brooks Oprik - Ryan Malone - Ryan Whitney etc. Team finished with 58 points in 29th of 30 teams. The next season they had 105 points with most of those guys gone. It will likely just turn on like a switch for Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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