So in the last 12 years his average is not top 10 but he is one of the best all time goalies ever?
If his average is not in the top 10 then he's a middle of the pack goalie plain and simple. Sure he is capable of playing lights out but common. He was lucky to be playing on a PT Canucks team that played him most games, that helps out his overall wins and shutouts but he should not be on the list of top all time goalies.
First, huh? You can't just average his position on the list of top 20 goalies per year to determine where he would actually stand on the list of overall SV% over the last 12 years because not all goalies made the list each year. (And even if you did you'd still be wrong.) You'd have to look at the SV% for every single goalie who did make the list over the last 12 years to see where Luo would stand. Seems kind of pointless, but if you're willing to do the math to figure that out, go for it!
Second, do you really not pay attention? Luo not only made the top 20 in 11 different years, he was top 10 in 8 of them. That means over his 13-year NHL career, Luo's SV% was in the top 10 for the regular season 62% of the time. That sure sounds elite to me. But if you'd like to argue it's not, feel free to compare it to the number of times other goalies have made the list over a similar time period. I'd love to see the results.
Third, check your stats again (or, you know, for the first time.) Luo's stats in Florida were actually very good. He had a season low
SV% there of .914. Furthermore, his stats were not
padded here by additional starts because he actually started around the same number of games per season here as he did in Florida.Games played by seasonFlorida
- 47, 58, 65, 72, and 75 (season average: 63.4)Canucks
- 76, 73, 54, 68, 60, 55, and 20 (season average: 58, season average not
including this year, 64.3)
As you can see, his number of games for both teams were in line with what other goalies were playing and even if you exclude this odd season (because it was a half season and he was backup) his games per season average is not even 1 game above his average from Florida. That's hardly enough to pad his stats. And certainly not enough to gift him freaking shutouts! (And I'm not sure why you think he wouldn't have earned his shutouts, unlike I'm guessing every other goalie. Do you think Cory didn't earn his because he also had the Canucks in front of him? Seriously, what is the logic there?)
Can you please remove Cory from you sig it offends me, you have never once defended him only repeatedly let us know how much better Lou is and then come back with but I have Cory name on my sig "I support both goalies BS (being silly)"
Just remove it and admit you a Lou homer.
Wow, you really don't bother to fact check anything do you? I've actually repeatedly defended Cory in multiple posts in multiple threads. And the biggest part of what I've tried to defend him against is unrealistic expectations based on nothing more than wishful thinking that will be used against him later. You are not supporting him by pretending that we can know how great he will be when we don't. If he turns out to be as good as Luo for as long, we should be ecstatic! You are not supporting him by telling him he has to be better than the best goalie this franchise has ever had or else he's a failure.
It's not my fault that you apparently confuse trashing one player with supporting another, or vice versa. If knowing that defending one of them in no way diminishes the talent or accomplishments of the other makes me a "homer" then I guess I am. And proud of it! We could use a lot more.
So, no, I won't be removing Cory's name and I don't really care what you are offended by, especially when you can't tell the difference between a signature and a freaking avatar!
Edited by poetica, 31 May 2013 - 03:25 PM.