J-Dizzle

I know Hoglander and Rathbone are fan faves, but I would be very, very supposed if either of those guys had Calder caliber rookie seasons. Podkolzin maybe but I don’t know that he’s the offensive dynamo to put up the kind of numbers required. All potentially very good players but I don’t know they’re in the same league as Brock, Petey and Quinn.

It will be interesting to see what the reffing is like. Usually at the start of the year they’re calling everything and in the playoffs the whistles go away..... this is kind of both lol.

Edit: NM

Seattle Chaz Ftw.

No I posted it because it popped up on my Facebook page and I thought it was well presented. I actually wasn’t aware of the 24 hour pal check but I’m sure you were.

https://www.thecutbanksconversations.ca/just-an-opinion/butits-just-assault-rifles?fbclid=IwAR1-VH7LHMYzFqZ-nIYvgoMoQTdZrmFmvG_LVa8iL36hzDD0P8_fat8rias Decent article by a BC resident not sure if I’m supposed to copy/paste or just post the link via forum rules... I don’t usually link articles.

Boeser Reinhardt

So just taking a few of those off your list there @Warhippy because I was genuinely curious 2014 Moncton.... The firearms in this case WERE obtained legally, however by the sounds of it the individual never should have got past the vetting. A former coworker said that "he's always seemed to have a problem with authority. Issues with parents, bosses, police..."[39] He also reportedly held anti-government and anti-authority views, had a fascination with conspiracy theories, and talked about killing other people and himself.[34][37][39] Two days before the shooting, Bourque made rants against all figures of authority to his father, during which he was described as becoming "paranoid".[38] The day after the shooting, a local firearm and outdoor supply store, Worlds End Warehouse, issued a statement on their Facebook page, confirming that Bourque was known personally by employees of the store but that he "was never a customer and never purchased firearms or ammunition from [them]".[40] One of Bourque's friends described an incident where Bourque had gone camping with several coworkers and brought "his rifle with him, without ammunition, which he held onto the whole night while drinking. That kind of freaked us out, so we didn't invite him the next time".[39] It remains unclear if anyone had previously reported safety concerns related to Bourque's firearm possession but local police stated that he "was not known to them".[4] In Canada, individuals who are concerned about the mental state or intentions of a firearms owner can notify the Canadian Firearms Program so that police can investigate.[41] Following his arrest, Bourque claimed that he originally planned to harm the oil industry by setting fire to several Moncton gas stations and then shoot random people, but abandoned the plan due to issues with his bicycle. He purchased the .308 Norinco M305 used in the shootings on July 24, 2009 legally, but had an expired firearms license at the time of the shooting.[2][12][14] 2014 Edmonton... Phu Lam (aged 53) had a criminal record dating back to 1987, which included drug and violence-related offenses.[4] At the time of the shooting, he was in bankruptcy proceedings and owed a large amount of money on at least a dozen credit cards due to a gambling problem.[6] Lam was arrested twice in Edmonton, for sexual and domestic assault. The 9mm handgun used in the shooting was registered in 1997 but was stolen in 2006 from Surrey, British Columbia.[3] In November 2012, a complaint was filed against Lam after he threatened to kill his ex-wife Thuy Tien Truong and five other relatives.[6] Quebec City Mosque.....Bissonnette is another example of someone who likely should have been weeded out in the vetting process. At the time of the shooting he was on an ssri, it would be interesting to know the level of what he was being treated for but there were certainly some significant signs of problems there. I don't have unlimited time and if anyone wants to add by looking at the other incidents or add to this go for it.... it seems to me when it comes to mass shootings we have more of a mental illness issue than a gun issue in Canada. Perhaps a better system than trying a blanket ban would be requiring further vetting for individuals diagnosed with mental illness. As someone who has dealt with depression I'd be a little intimidated by that as I don't feel that I would necessarily get a fair shake BUT would view that as a better option than targeting an essentially non-offending target group. As far as general gun crime goes have a look.... it would appear to me that gang crime with illegally trafficked handguns is a significant issue... that's where your border crack down comes in. https://sencanada.ca/content/sen/committee/421/SECD/Briefs/Stats_Can_Presentation_ppt_e.pdf

We'll disagree strongly there, but I think that's been hacked out over this thread about a million times. I'd actually really be interested in seeing the stats behind that chart you posted on how individuals attained firearms (more so over the past 20 years +/- as beyond that I don't know is applicable to our current environment). I haven't actually been able to dig up a ton on that.

I applaud the fact that you're consistent... you are one of verrrrry few. IF we're going to restrict guns so aggressively you'd have to be an absolute hypocrite not to also be an prohibitionist (congratulations on not being a hypocrite lol).

Humour me here - because in theory you're right (although I think there's a lot to discuss there in regards to why guns are easily accessible to people who use them to commit violence) - what is responsible for more deaths in Canada in a given year, guns or alcohol?

and???? triggers don't pull themselves anymore than a van steers itself into a group of people. Once you put something in your hands with the intent of killing or harming someone else it doesn't matter what it was created for.... THANK GOD, most of these idiots haven't figured out there are far more effective ways of killing a lot of people in a short time than semi-automatic firearms.

I absolutely would argue that they would still happen. Up until a couple weeks ago a van was responsible for the deadliest massacre in Canada in modern history. There are people in the world who want to inflict as much damage as they can when they go out, if guns aren't available they'll find something else.

Oh wow. Thanks for that.

Again, enlighten me on how a database or the now in place 'assault rifle' ban would have prevented these, that's what I'm asking, although I'd love to see more information on exactly what guns were used, and legally owned... just out of interest? Edit.... just now understood why you were laughing at the last statement....that is pretty good.

Hmmmm. Certainly seems like another one a database or ‘assault rifle’ ban could have stopped......

Looks like the liberals may have accidentally included 12 gauge shotguns (your squirrel gun... not that anyone in bc hunts squirrels) in the ban. just checking in To see if anyone’s demonstrated how the ban or a database would have prevented the few mass shootings that have happened in Canada this Century???? Things seemed to be pretty quiet on that front.....

Hamhuis Jeff Cowan, simply for having a bra thrown at him.

I think most of ‘those people’ just want to see others kept safe. Unfortunately they’re - imho - barking up the wrong tree to see that happen.

I stopped following this thread because it was going around in circles.... probably will stop again pretty quickly as the discussion has primarily been less than informed for the most part. Just wanted to know if we had established if any of the mass shootings In Canada over the past twenty years would have been prevented by a data base or now by this quasi gun ban?

Motte should be back... he’s an rfa. Leivo will be a UFA and I’m guessing won’t be re-signed given the crowded state of our top 9.

Hamhuis Reinhart

Interesting bit there where Benning got input from Peter on Hoglander before the draft.

my appologies...partisanship.

I don't know that this is actually true. Rather, it's just that the media has a tendency towards partisanship AND those who are extremely partisan are also extremely loud. While it's growing, in my real life experience there are less people that are utterly partisan than my media and internet experience (unless you step onto a university campus... then the above statement is out the window lol).