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If We Knew What Schneider Would Become, What Position Would He Have Been Drafted?

Sandro17

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Smashian Kassian Canucks Hall-of-Famer

Smashian Kassian

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1. Ovechkin

2. Malkin

3. Rinne

4. Radulov

5. Schneider

6. Krejci

7. Green

8. Callahan

9. Streit

10. Edler

11. Zajac

12. Franzen

13. Ladd

14. Versteeg

15. Goligoski

16. Booth

17. Grabovski

18. Stafford

19. Meszaros

20. Dubinsky

21. Bolland

22. Wheeler

23. Barker

24. Dubnyk

25. Brouwer

26. Comeau

27. Hansen

28. Grossman

29. Wolski

30. Campoli

That's the way I see it, based if the GM's knew what they would be like now, and the player's abilities and what they bring. Not at all by team priorities.

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Thirteen Abbotsford Prospect

Thirteen

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Took him 6 years to devlope. I think his draft # is right on considering he could of been a bust if he was taken by a team that laid more pressure on him instwas of letting him find his game and perfect it the way he has in Vancouver.

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well he for sure would have been drafted higher than dubnyk and montoya. but lets be honest, if going into the 2004 draft we thought we'd wait 8 years to get impactful goaltending out of our first round pick, we probably wouldnt have drafted him at all. not that it was indicative of his play, but just crappy circumstances since he's always been stuck behind luongo

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Schneider doesn't become what he is without the patience Vancouver had because of Roberto Luongo.

Rushed and Schneider could have easily been a Steve Mason or a career backup. Knowing Vancouver's media, he would have been torn to pieces under the pressure of playing goal in Vancouver while not being ready for the #1 role.

Remember how bad he was just 2-3 years ago when Luongo was injured? He couldn't even take the starting job away from the likes of Sanford, LaBarbara and Raycroft. Without Luongo, Schneider would have been expected to be our starter 2-3 years ago, and there would have been a good chance that his career gets ruined by the media pressure.

A player's draft position does not depend purely on potential but also how fast the player becomes NHL-ready and the team's immediate needs. Most teams that pick a goaltender in the top 10 need him immediately within the next 2-3 years. Since Schneider wouldn't have been NHL-ready in 2-3 years, he definitely shouldn't have been a top 10 pick.

Not every goaltender is elite from the start like Roberto Luongo (4th overall - played in the NHL as a starter since 21 years old). Some guys like Schneider take a long time and some patience, and that's what he needed. Only guys like Roberto or recently, Carey Price, who can dominate from an early age should go high in the draft - as in a top 10 pick.

Schneider should have gone somewhere in the bottom half of the 1st round because he wasn't going to be elite right away - which is where he went. Somewhere between 15 and 30th overall.

He is very lucky that we had the time and patience to develop him into the product that he is today.

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Sorry, but these "what if" crystal ball topics are stupid. He got drafted in the position he was drafted in, plain and simple. Draft position is based on team needs or getting the best player available at the time. Goalies rarely go in the first round and are rarely top 5.

In addition, all Schneider has become is a member of a great goalie tandem in Vancouver. He is still the back-up. I admit he seems to have tremendous upside but what the hell does that have to do with his original draft position.

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Schneider doesn't become what he is without the patience Vancouver had because of Roberto Luongo.

Rushed and Schneider could have easily been a Steve Mason or a career backup. Knowing Vancouver's media, he would have been torn to pieces under the pressure of playing goal in Vancouver while not being ready for the #1 role.

Remember how bad he was just 2-3 years ago when Luongo was injured? He couldn't even take the starting job away from the likes of Sanford, LaBarbara and Raycroft. Without Luongo, Schneider would have been expected to be our starter 2-3 years ago, and there would have been a good chance that his career gets ruined by the media pressure.

A player's draft position does not depend purely on potential but also how fast the player becomes NHL-ready and the team's immediate needs. Most teams that pick a goaltender in the top 10 need him immediately within the next 2-3 years. Since Schneider wouldn't have been NHL-ready in 2-3 years, he definitely shouldn't have been a top 10 pick.

Not every goaltender is elite from the start like Roberto Luongo (4th overall - played in the NHL as a starter since 21 years old). Some guys like Schneider take a long time and some patience, and that's what he needed. Only guys like Roberto or recently, Carey Price, who can dominate from an early age should go high in the draft - as in a top 10 pick.

Schneider should have gone somewhere in the bottom half of the 1st round because he wasn't going to be elite right away - which is where he went. Somewhere between 15 and 30th overall.

He is very lucky that we had the time and patience to develop him into the product that he is today.

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