Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 If AV is still coach I honestly don't know if I can watch the Canucks next season. I can't watch this same movie for a third time. Especially not when there are so many other teams out there that are exciting to watch and actually play to win. I will always love the Canucks and be a fan. They will always have my support. But honestly, I have not felt this level of disinterest about the team since the Keenan years. And I never thought I would ever get to that point. The coaching decisions are only part of it. The whole team just does not care so why should I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 What is your song for us now TM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I am not sure AV going is obvious. Gillis seems like he is unwilling to ever admit that his "vision" could ever be wrong. And AV has been a big part of his vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Off to work on dads estate today but I will catch you all sometime soon i am sure. Adios for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 RFA extension: The Florida Panthers have re-signed pending RFA defenseman Dmitri Orlov to a two year deal. Dmitri Orlov: 2 years, $ 3.0 million dollar contract ( $ 1,500,000.00 per season ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 RFA extension: The Colorado Avalanche has re-signed pending RFA goaltender Jonathan Bernier to a three year deal. Jonathan Bernier: 3 years, $ 6.45 million dollar contract ( $ 2,150,000.00 per season ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 RFA extension: The Dallas Stars have re-signed pending RFA forward Nick Cousins to a three year deal. Nick Cousins: 3 years, $ 2.4 million dollar contract ( $ 800,000.00 per season ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 RFA extension: The Dallas Stars have re-signed pending RFA defenseman Nick Jensen to a two year deal. Nick Jensen: 2 years, $ 1.25 million dolar contract ( $ 625,000.00 per season ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 UFA extension: The Carolina Hurricanes have re-signed pending UFA forward Ray Whitney to a one year deal. Ray Whitney: 1 year, $ 4.0 million dollar contract ( $ 4,000,000.00 per season ). Deal includes a full no-movement-clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Agreed completely. If Raymond and AV are still in the organization I don't think I can be as committed to this team anymore. Raymond? I get that everyone loves to hate him, but come on now... FINALLY he's been able to get healthy. And now that he is? Tied for 4th on the team in goals, with 10, equaling his total from last season. I think we can all agree the Canucks need more scoring. Extrapolated over a full season that's an 18 goal, 40 point season. Not to shabby for just over 2 million bucks. Kills penalties. Had the highest shooting percentage of his career this season, and 3rd highest among Canucks with more than 50 shots. Showed some pretty good chemistry with Jordan Schroeder, who should be up full time next season. Is still blazing fast and showed a lot more willingness to go into the corners and battle. He's been winning more puck battles and re-gaining possession for the team. He's got flaws of course, as does any player. But for the price and the potential to get back to the 25 goal, 50-60 point form he showed before, I don't see any reason other than cap space why we wouldn't bring him back. He took a pay cut to prove himself and he performed well, especially given the struggles of the rest of the team all season. I'm not going to say he's going to be the next Zach Parise or anything, but he's capable of being a solid top 6 winger who can produce points. He was damn good this year. Inconsistent? Definitely, but show me a Canuck this year that wasn't. Ballard and Booth need to go. I like them both, but for what they bring (or at least what they're given the chance to bring) and $4 million+ each, those are the guys that need to be moved. Them, and a goaltender. Then a few good, cap friendly signings, bring up some youngsters for next year (Schroeder, Kassian, Jensen) and we're cap compliant. As frustrated as I am, we know what this team is capable of... I wonder what a coach with a more workmanlike style would do for this team? I'd like to see something like that tried out... heck, get rid of Gillis too (he's as responsible for this mess if not more than AV) and give Lindy Ruff a go with this team, at least for one year before we tear the core apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Raymond? I get that everyone loves to hate him, but come on now... FINALLY he's been able to get healthy. And now that he is? Tied for 4th on the team in goals, with 10, equaling his total from last season. I think we can all agree the Canucks need more scoring. Extrapolated over a full season that's an 18 goal, 40 point season. Not to shabby for just over 2 million bucks. Kills penalties. Had the highest shooting percentage of his career this season, and 3rd highest among Canucks with more than 50 shots. Showed some pretty good chemistry with Jordan Schroeder, who should be up full time next season. Is still blazing fast and showed a lot more willingness to go into the corners and battle. He's been winning more puck battles and re-gaining possession for the team. He's got flaws of course, as does any player. But for the price and the potential to get back to the 25 goal, 50-60 point form he showed before, I don't see any reason other than cap space why we wouldn't bring him back. He took a pay cut to prove himself and he performed well, especially given the struggles of the rest of the team all season. I'm not going to say he's going to be the next Zach Parise or anything, but he's capable of being a solid top 6 winger who can produce points. He was damn good this year. Inconsistent? Definitely, but show me a Canuck this year that wasn't. Ballard and Booth need to go. I like them both, but for what they bring (or at least what they're given the chance to bring) and $4 million+ each, those are the guys that need to be moved. Them, and a goaltender. Then a few good, cap friendly signings, bring up some youngsters for next year (Schroeder, Kassian, Jensen) and we're cap compliant. As frustrated as I am, we know what this team is capable of... I wonder what a coach with a more workmanlike style would do for this team? I'd like to see something like that tried out... heck, get rid of Gillis too (he's as responsible for this mess if not more than AV) and give Lindy Ruff a go with this team, at least for one year before we tear the core apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 No goals in his last 17 playoff games, and he's actually been healthy for what? 3 of those games? He's hardly the only Canuck that needed to be better in the playoffs. Where's Daniel's goals when we need them? His last playoff goal was in 2011, and he's supposed to be our leading scorer. Jannik Hansen? 5 goals in 55 career playoff games total, and none since 2011. How about Chris Higgins? 4 goals in 33 playoff games for Vancouver, also none since 2011. But yeah, Raymond's the problem, all he does is skate fast. Give me a break. You also ignored every other point I made regarding his play this year, which makes sense given that it flies in the face of the mocking tone of your post. He won a lot of puck battles, went to areas he didn't usually go to before and created a lot, even if the chances weren't converted, he played well. He also has some pretty good chemistry with Jordan Schroeder who is supposed to be a key piece for us moving forward (I wonder how much losing his linemate in Schroeder contributes to the drop off in production?) and had his highest shooting percentage of his career this year. Raymond equaled Higgins and Hansen in terms of goals despite playing under 16 minutes per game, and was only 2 behind Daniel. Er, sorry.... I mean, he skates fast and falls down. That's the standard CDC statement regarding Raymond, right? I almost hope the Canucks do let him walk so he can sign somewhere else and score 25 goals again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 No goals in his last 17 playoff games, and he's actually been healthy for what? 3 of those games? He's hardly the only Canuck that needed to be better in the playoffs. Where's Daniel's goals when we need them? His last playoff goal was in 2011, and he's supposed to be our leading scorer. Jannik Hansen? 5 goals in 55 career playoff games total, and none since 2011. How about Chris Higgins? 4 goals in 33 playoff games for Vancouver, also none since 2011. But yeah, Raymond's the problem, all he does is skate fast. Give me a break. You also ignored every other point I made regarding his play this year, which makes sense given that it flies in the face of the mocking tone of your post. He won a lot of puck battles, went to areas he didn't usually go to before and created a lot, even if the chances weren't converted, he played well. He also has some pretty good chemistry with Jordan Schroeder who is supposed to be a key piece for us moving forward (I wonder how much losing his linemate in Schroeder contributes to the drop off in production?) and had his highest shooting percentage of his career this year. Raymond equaled Higgins and Hansen in terms of goals despite playing under 16 minutes per game, and was only 2 behind Daniel. Er, sorry.... I mean, he skates fast and falls down. That's the standard CDC statement regarding Raymond, right? I almost hope the Canucks do let him walk so he can sign somewhere else and score 25 goals again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Congratulations to Brandon Saad on the well deserved Calder nomination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Well he's played in all 17 of them. So he was obviously healthy. I'd never said he was the only problem. Higgins has been awful, Burrows hasn't done much, Edler has been awful, Bieksa horrific, the list goes on, Raymond isn't the only guy that needs to go. But considering he's going to want a raise, there's no way in hell he should return. He's fast, and is good defensively, i agree he has good chemistry with Schroeds but do you really want a Raymond and Schoreder 3rd line in the playoffs? He doesn't fit with Kesler or the twins, hence not a fit in our top-6, and he isn't a guy that thrives in a bottom-6 role in the playoffs. I'm sure he will score 20 goals somewhere where he's a better fit, and good for him, but it won't be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Say good bye to Lapierre, Raymond, Alberts, Luongo, Roy, Malhotra and Barker --- and if #boldmoves happen - maybe one of Edler/Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Don't forget Ballard and Booth, I'd like to see at least one "bold move" as well, shake up the core a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I have a feeling that Booth will get one more year - you can use the 2 amnesty buyouts this summer or next.... so Ballard this year, then Booth next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 OOO I missed some good discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 McQuaid with a goal, +3 and 6 hits in under 10 mins of ice, way to make use of your ice bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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