Heretic Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 That's quite the statement. You should elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 All human beings are hypocrites. Without religion, we'd still be small bands of non technological people roaming the earth...we never would have evolved to the state we are now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The human race would be much more advanced if it weren't for the interference of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 All human beings are hypocrites. Without religion, we'd still be small bands of non technological people roaming the earth...we never would have evolved to the state we are now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 So religion invented the transistor and the microprocessor? Good to know. The human race would be much more advanced if it weren't for the interference of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Common ignorance more like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I'm not 100% sure about this. If it weren't religion, they'd just make something else up that would cause similar problems. Stuff like political parties, but more extreme. The human mind is obsessed with organizing things into groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Brahma, organization is a good thing. Makes things much more efficient. Control and oppression are not good things. That's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 There is good and bad to organization. I'm just saying that even without religion, different groups would be created that would end up leading to the same types of problems such as control and oppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Yes, because I'm so disturbed that I genuinely want him burned alive... Nice to see you standing up for him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Maybe. But we have yet to see atheists in the name of atheism, an extremist approach, organize large cults in an effort to stone gays among others and claim it as the will of the FSM. We're better off without religion and god or gods -- it's nothing more than primitive belief systems to explain reality which is obviously not applicable to the 21st century given how much we now know which evidently contradicts and disproves those primitive beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Very wrong. We are where we are in the world because religion lost it's grip on societies. If religious leaders had their way back in the day, I bet we'd still be riding horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I'd rather believe Dr. Haidt then a biased opinion from someone who hates religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Then I suggest you don't put all your faith in one person, even if he's a doctor. From the article you referred to... Other psychologists have mixed views about Dr. Haidt’s ideas. Frans B. M. de Waal, a primatologist at Emory University, said he disagreed with Dr. Haidt’s view that the task of morality is to suppress selfishness. Many animals show empathy and altruistic tendencies but do not have moral systems. Read up on the history of religion. You'll fine mass murder and oppression all in the name of religion. Don't be naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 It says he disagrees with 1 part of one of his views. Read up on the history of mankind. You'll find more mass murder and oppression that wasn't done in the name of religion. Take off your blinders and fingers out of your ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Wtf are you talking about? When did I say mass murder and oppression was exclusive to religion? You can deny religion's ugly record in the history of mankind and put all your faith in the findings of one study from one psychologist if you want. I don't have blinders on my friend, but I think you do. And I think you are in denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 lol...oh this wasn't meant as irony. I agree with you thatreligion is in general bad especially looking at it's history. Like anything else there are good aspects to it especially individually but like anything else it fails on a more broad spectrum level. Just like any other organization. Look at broad spectrum news. It has people like you convinced that the middle east is some dangerous place filled with people who pull people out into the streets to murder them and will kill you if you burn a Koran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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