Plum Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I was looking at the cap payrolls and looked for teams over the cap that need to get under it. The teams that caught my eye were Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, they have no RFAs to sign but they are both over the cap by 1 million+. Their top 9 don't look really great either, although PIT has Geno and Sid. Philadelphia's top 9: Voracek - Giroux - Hartnell Simmonds - Lecavalier - Read? Schenn? - Couturier? - Talbot/Rinaldo/Laughton? Their top 9 looks weak with Schenn, Couturier, Talbot/Rinaldo/Laughton. It is safe to say their top 9 isn't very strong and being over the cap by 2 million doesn't help their chances to make it any stronger. That is where we can come in. Pittsburgh's top 9: Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis Neal - Malkin - Jokinan? Bennett - Sutter - _____ < Possibly, Vitale? D'Agostini? Again just like Philly they have holes in their lineup and are over the cap. These 2 teams don't have any prospects who can really jump into that top 9 and fill that role. Maybe Cousins? Pittsburgh's D is nothing to concern about, but maybe they can trade one of their prospects for a player who can step into that spot, (Jensen?). Some of these players I feel uncomfortable to put into their top 6, (Read, Jokinan, Philly's and Pit's 3rd line RW). Even Pittsburgh's goaltending is something to concern about since Fluery has been shaky, even though Vokoun had a decent playoff run I don't know if their goaltending problem is solved. This is where I want to hear some proposals of yours including these teams, I would like to see some proposals that will involve what I'm talking. I will be including some of my own proposals into this thread but I have just started thinking about this no less than half a hour ago. What are some of your proposals? Edit: Talked to a Pittsburgh fan and he told me that the 9-13 forwards are where it looks bad. Thought of a trade maybe this? To VAN: Harrington, 5th round pick. To PIT: Jensen, Polasek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 geeze .. both those top sixes look pretty dynamite to me ... ummmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 geeze .. both those top sixes look pretty dynamite to me ... ummmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just because another team is having cap problems doesn't mean we should be asking "what can the Canucks do?".... If the right deal presents itself to us then we can potentially make a trade with them, but we are short on cap space ourselves and to be honest I like the look of our team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 What I'm focusing on is top 9. The RW spot for both these teams looks pretty weak, plus they are over the cap. So obviously things have to be done from these teams before the start of the season. Will we be involved? Can Jokinen or Read step in the top 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I would gladly take Talbot off of Philly's hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Just because another team is having cap problems doesn't mean we should be asking "what can the Canucks do?".... If the right deal presents itself to us then we can potentially make a trade with them, but we are short on cap space ourselves and to be honest I like the look of our team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Here is my opinion To pit Shroeder and 2nd To Van Engelland They get who they need for their third line while we get a big dman that can clear the crease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 To Philly Jensen and a 2nd To van Laugton Rinaldo Talbot We take their entire fourth line but give them a player that can play in their top 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Here is my opinion To pit Shroeder and 2nd To Van Engelland They get who they need for their third line while we get a big dman that can clear the crease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Shroeder can play the Wing and you are underestimating Engeland because he has the potential to be a top four dman but just to make you happy how about they add Brian Domoulin a prospect in their stacked d pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 Here is my opinion To pit Shroeder and 2nd To Van Engelland They get who they need for their third line while we get a big dman that can clear the crease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightmeirl Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 philly places pronger on ltir, they actually have almost 3 mil cap space pittsburgh is missing a 3rd line rw but for them it really doesnt matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Jensen, Polasek for Harrington, 5th round pick 2014. This seems even, they get Jensen to slot in, fills the role. They have a stacked defense prospects so it wouldn't effect it significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Jensen for one of pit's d prospects cuz they have like 10 or Jensen for Schenn/Couturier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Bennett > Jokinen. If Sid has chemistry with Kunitz/Dupuis I wouldn't call that a weak line either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Schenn and Couturier are wildcards. Big name prospects only 22 and 20 and both have only played 110 and 123 games due to the short season. Both will be entering their 3rd season and especially if you look at Flyers prospects this is often the year they breakout. For reference Carter, Richards, Giroux all had massive production spikes in year 3. With that being said the Flyers line 3 will likely be Read - Couturier - Talbot. Couturier is already a great 3rd line center given his defensive side and Talbot is the perfect 3rd line player also very strong defensively and gritty but possess a strong offensive touch for a 3rd liner. Read himself is underrated but offers a nice offensive compliment it could be one of the most dangerous line 3's in the NHL if Couturier's offensive upside kicks in this year. It should also be noted Gagne will likely attend the Flyers training camp and many believe they will sign him and he would be a perfect line 3 player given his defensive abilities that would be a very strong defensive group with Couturier and Talbot. Personally I didn't see any concerns with ether team though. Nether team lost anything that they can't make up for and both teams are always among the best offensive teams. Pitts was runaway #1 last year and even Philly who had players struggle was still #9. Schenn will likely play on the top line with Giroux and Hartnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Schenn and Couturier are wildcards. Big name prospects only 22 and 20 and both have only played 110 and 123 games due to the short season. Both will be entering their 3rd season and especially if you look at Flyers prospects this is often the year they breakout. For reference Carter, Richards, Giroux all had massive production spikes in year 3. With that being said the Flyers line 3 will likely be Read - Couturier - Talbot. Couturier is already a great 3rd line center given his defensive side and Talbot is the perfect 3rd line player also very strong defensively and gritty but possess a strong offensive touch for a 3rd liner. Read himself is underrated but offers a nice offensive compliment it could be one of the most dangerous line 3's in the NHL if Couturier's offensive upside kicks in this year. It should also be noted Gagne will likely attend the Flyers training camp and many believe they will sign him and he would be a perfect line 3 player given his defensive abilities that would be a very strong defensive group with Couturier and Talbot. Personally I didn't see any concerns with ether team though. Nether team lost anything that they can't make up for and both teams are always among the best offensive teams. Pitts was runaway #1 last year and even Philly who had players struggle was still #9. Schenn will likely play on the top line with Giroux and Hartnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Well they will have to make changes, they're over cap by 2 million. Maybe we can get involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Jensen for one of pit's d prospects cuz they have like 10 or Jensen for Schenn/Couturier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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