Silfverberg Snipes Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 They just need the 'bounces' to go their way dontcha know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well, look at Pittsburgh. people would kill their mothers to have Crosby and Malkin on their team, yet they JUST had the same kind of losing streak and have only moderately more success in the playoffs the last 2 seasons despite going all in like they did last year with Jokinnen Morrow and Iginla. I am not going to seriously start worrying until we see serious signs of Albertaism Conference Finals is not "moderately more success" than getting swept in the first round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbo Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Agreed - they are not getting any lasting traction. Their 5th loss to the Panthers on the heels of losing games with over 30 shots on goal paints the picture. They need to shake up the lines and bench some underperformers . . . with no millionaire exceptions. Start with the powerplay line. The Sedins and Kesler haven't delivered in 3 years and and trend line goes straight down to 10%. It doesn't get worse, so why stick with a losing formula. Put a bunch of kids out there 5 on 4 - really how can they do worse, and they may even do better. Throw enough mud at the wall and something will stick, but they gotta start trying something new. (At least it will give their #1 forward line a rest for 2 minutes.) The rest of the lines need to be shaken up, just to shake up the attitude of the team. Why not split up the Sedins? Sure they work well together, but that doesn't mean that two good forward line firing all cylinders all the time can't be made out of all the talent on this team. And maybe, just maybe, three. I may be dumb, but it doesn't take a $2M a year coach to see that they can build a better house with this lumber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Agreed - they are not getting any lasting traction. Their 5th loss to the Panthers on the heels of losing games with over 30 shots on goal paints the picture. They need to shake up the lines and bench some underperformers . . . with no millionaire exceptions. Start with the powerplay line. The Sedins and Kesler haven't delivered in 3 years and and trend line goes straight down to 10%. It doesn't get worse, so why stick with a losing formula. Put a bunch of kids out there 5 on 4 - really how can they do worse, and they may even do better. Throw enough mud at the wall and something will stick, but they gotta start trying something new. (At least it will give their #1 forward line a rest for 2 minutes.) The rest of the lines need to be shaken up, just to shake up the attitude of the team. Why not split up the Sedins? Sure they work well together, but that doesn't mean that two good forward line firing all cylinders all the time can't be made out of all the talent on this team. And maybe, just maybe, three. I may be dumb, but it doesn't take a $2M a year coach to see that they can build a better house with this lumber! Congrats on your first post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck'nAnimal Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 So what is it? Do they have focus issues? Inconsistency issues? Or is it just one of those things where they happen to be running into teams that are playing really well when they go into a funk? De Niro, I think it's the air in Vancouver. It does something to the players when they play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Big win in game three against CHI to go up 3-0 in the series just to play like crap 3 straight and barely eek out a win in OT in game seven. Huge win in game 5 of the finals that same year and we all know what happened in games 6 and 7. Big matinee win in Boston 7 months later and play 20 games of uninspired shinny hockey after that. PP seemed to take a dive after that game too. Fast forward to the game against SJ a couple weeks back and voila. It's déjà Vu all over again. One common theme has been the lack of production from the Sedins and Kesler after the big wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The reality of this thread is about a sense of belonging and not the Canucks at all. Instead this is all about a sense of fitting in, a sense that someone agrees with my opinion therefore we're all better and more special than the other posters. Ego is more powerful than you know. Once you remove ego from the discussion, you can have meaningful dialogue. But related to the post, the team has already regrouped this year to win, they're in a losing funk that they need to break out of. Buzzkill ... I know... sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck'nAnimal Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 It seems to me that this has been a recurring theme for this team for a while now. They'll have a big emotional hard fought win over a tough opponent, and then struggle to maintain their intensity for a long time afterwards. Do they have focus issues? Inconsistency issues? Or is it just one of those things where they happen to be running into teams that are playing really well when they go into a funk? To address your concerns seriously: 1. The consistency issue has been a constant problem throughout the 43 years that the Canucks have been in the league. Even when we were lacking in talent, it's been an issue. The 'Nucks would get up for the big teams and let the teams below them in the standings walk all over them. It was also glaring during the Pat Quinn era when we had the Russian Rocket in terms of talent and in terms of finding the back of the net. 2. Is it lack of consistency in their play. Yes. Is it lack of focus: Yes... And it does happen to be that they end up running up against teams that are playing well, because the teams lower in the standings than the Canucks bring in their "A" game while the Canucks "mail it in" and wind up losing points that they should have picked up. The intangibles are going to be harder to address and unless the Canucks develop consistency (which Torts is trying to instill in them) and focus - they are always going to be a mediocre team (with talent). 3. We have had issues with scoring for the past 4 years - even when we went to the SCF in 2011, we had issues with scoring that year. No game was an absolute blowout. You see other teams beating teams by 4-1, 5-1 margins and see the Canucks winning their games by 3-2, 2-1 margins and you know that it just takes a lucky bounce the other way - the Canucks could have been on the other side of the score and not to their advantage. The scoring issue has not been addressed in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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