TOMapleLaughs Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 So what your saying is because Canadian teams are having an off year 2014, this year it's all atrributed to the NHL draft? What happen in 2011 and Kesler was a big reason canucks went to the cup? Are you just dicrediting that? Same with OTT and how big of role Spezza played in their 2007 run? What is just a ruise for the great demise of canadian teams in 2014? Or the NHL rigged the draft in 2008 so that the sens would get stuck with Karlsson and his lazy defensive ability and gave the southern market teams like the Hurricanes CBJ and Hawks, those real NHL gems like Beach, Boychuk, Filiatov... I get it now.... NHL rigging the draft indeed.The 2008 draft wasn't strong, and respectfully, neither is Karlsson. He's an offensive wizard, but so was Mike Green. Ottawa is worse off this season than last season when he was injured. It takes a lot of events to get a specific group of professional sports teams to all stink at the same time. To me, it's not a coincidence that they're Canadian now. Just looking at what's already happened. But yes, the odd Canadian team making the finals and losing appears to be part of the process. I would not be shocked if Montreal made it really far this season, and next season they begin a spiral downward, starting with some bs drama about Subban that leads to him being dealt. But if it's not Montreal who does it, rest assured some other Canadian team will rise up and dramatically fall, as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 You want to look at the 2003 draft Edmonton drafted 22nd and at the time draft Marc-Antoine Pouliot and 18 year old kid, just came off a 114 pt season in the QMJHL. How did the oilers know he wasn’t going to drop of the world? I mean it wasn’t like he wasn’t a good choice. 6’1, 200lb center. Did the league know this guys was going to be a bust, because it sure didn’t seem like EDM was going off the charts when they chose him at the time. In 2003 Why did CBJ draft Zherdev 4th overall? Why did NYR draft Jessiman? NYI Nilsson? SJ Bernier? You act like the league decides what player is going to be good and which ones will suck. That the league has a hand in player development and who wins the scoring titles. There may be league bias but that’s the extent. This isn’t the WWE, there are too many stakeholders involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 The 2008 draft wasn't strong, and respectfully, neither is Karlsson. He's an offensive wizard, but so was Mike Green. Ottawa is worse off this season than last season when he was injured. It takes a lot of events to get a specific group of professional sports teams to all stink at the same time. To me, it's not a coincidence that they're Canadian now. Just looking at what's already happened. But yes, the odd Canadian team making the finals and losing appears to be part of the process. I would not be shocked if Montreal made it really far this season, and next season they begin a spiral downward, starting with some bs drama about Subban that leads to him being dealt. But if it's not Montreal who does it, rest assured some other Canadian team will rise up and dramatically fall, as planned. If he got dealt to the canucks I wouldn't complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ducks also had Fowler and Etem 'mysteriously fall' to them in the 2010 draft. They're getting quite a few draft favours it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Tinfoil hat time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Tinfoil hat time!Yeah, yeah. It's all an amazing coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmania Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Yeah, yeah. It's all an amazing coincidence. No it's really not. It's just amazingly dunderheaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Kesler Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Looking at the Canadian contingent in those lists and you can plainly see why all Canadian franchises are struggling to remain competitive.It's truly a tale of woe:1-5:Spezza - Did make finals and lose. Struggles to remain healthy. Rumoured to be on the block.Price - Constant rumours of partying and whatnot. Fairly inconsistent, but is good now.L. Schenn - Traded after not panning out in TO.Three? That's it? No wonder all Canadian teams stink now.6-15:Kadri - One-dimensional wonderHemsky - Laughable injury historyKarlsson - Great offensively, lazy defensivelyPhaneuf - Just not all that goodDubnyk - SieveHodgson - Traded prima donna16-30:Kesler - On the blockEberle - One-dimensionalRask - Insanely tradedSchneider - See RaskSchroeder - Busting out?Pacioretty - Decent, but not great.2nd round+:Subban - Not re-signed yet. Like Price, has 'off-ice issues' blah, blah, blah and he probably won't be a career Hab.Grabovski - TradedSilverberg - TradedEdler - On the blockCanadian teams have been subsidizing the south for years and years. In return for their efforts, the NHL takes their franchises and moves them south when hard times hit Canada.Most of these drafted players applaud themselves when they get traded from their Canadian team to and American one because they know they have a shot at winning then.The players on your lists traded to a Canadian team are usually overpaid, have already won a cup and/or are just in it for a paycheck.Hindsight is 20/20 alright. The draft is rigged.Jesus Christ, man. You personally keep Reynolds Wrap afloat with all the tinfoil wrapped around your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The draft is rigged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Who knew the NHL had crystal balls and can see what the players are gonna be like in the future. I guess this last draft means that Bo Horvat is gonna be a bust and Shea Theodore is gonna be the next Chris Pronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Of course the draft is rigged. Pro leagues don't let these things happen by chance, derp.However, what was the point of this thread anyway? That some players pan out and others don't? Double-derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Looking at the Canadian contingent in those lists and you can plainly see why all Canadian franchises are struggling to remain competitive. It's truly a tale of woe: 1-5: Spezza - Did make finals and lose. Struggles to remain healthy. Rumoured to be on the block. Price - Constant rumours of partying and whatnot. Fairly inconsistent, but is good now. L. Schenn - Traded after not panning out in TO. Three? That's it? No wonder all Canadian teams stink now. 6-15: Kadri - One-dimensional wonder Hemsky - Laughable injury history Karlsson - Great offensively, lazy defensively Phaneuf - Just not all that good Dubnyk - Sieve Hodgson - Traded prima donna 16-30: Kesler - On the block Eberle - One-dimensional Rask - Insanely traded Schneider - See Rask Schroeder - Busting out?Pacioretty - Decent, but not great. 2nd round+: Subban - Not re-signed yet. Like Price, has 'off-ice issues' blah, blah, blah and he probably won't be a career Hab. Grabovski - Traded Silverberg - Traded Edler - On the block Canadian teams have been subsidizing the south for years and years. In return for their efforts, the NHL takes their franchises and moves them south when hard times hit Canada. Most of these drafted players applaud themselves when they get traded from their Canadian team to and American one because they know they have a shot at winning then. The players on your lists traded to a Canadian team are usually overpaid, have already won a cup and/or are just in it for a paycheck. Hindsight is 20/20 alright. The draft is rigged. Is he not among the goal leaders in the NHL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Is he not among the goal leaders in the NHL... 39th today.. Decent, but not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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