bossram Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Kassian is young and developing. Honestly, he needs more time in the AHL. If we keep playing him up here, he won't be anything more than a 4th line bruiser. He has flashes of offensive ability and crushing checks, but isn't consistent. He's not great defensively either. I'd like to see him in the AHL next year to refine his game. I don't mind Weise. He knows his job and goes out and does it. He's pretty speedy and is solid defensively. As for Bitz, he offers more physicality than Weise but truthfully he is slow. Far slower than Weise or Kassian. As a result we cannot use him, ever, in a defensive role. His job is pretty much only to be a bruiser and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understand Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Kassian is better.Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandVanFan Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I'm on the side with the fact that Kassian isn't a bad pickup for the Canucks, just the timing and the trade were not probably the best. Why make a trade for a guy who probably won't make a huge impact for you in the coming playoffs? He does provide grit but you can see he just doesnt have the sense yet. So basically we traded Cody for the future, so why not make that trade after the playoffs? Does anyone know how many hits Kassian has had since coming over to the Canucks? It doesnt seem like alot lately, and before that Blackhawks game he wasnt hitting anything for a bunch of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Over and over again, people have one and only one excuse for his lackluster performance. "He's too young.. only 21 years old... he has a lot of potential .. still developing... will be a great player in 5 years... but now now..." So... what? Should we look into the playoffs a few years down the road? No, Gillis said he made the trade for the immediate needs of the team. I think he's starting to realize what a mistake he has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rypper-37 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I prefer Kass but I believe roster spot should be competed for. If Kass starts to disappear, then Weise or Bitz or Duco should take over. MayRay is a good example of someone who learned the lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yeah, I could see him being a healthy scratch in an upcoming game if he doesn't turn it up a little. (LA, COL, DAL) - all potential 1st round opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkoshack Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 So many morons ready to write this kid off already. Short memories seem to forget how little Hodgson did at 21 last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeneir Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 How is he better? I just don't see it... U see something different? Bitz is bigger and probably tougher. Skating wise, I don't see Kassian being a very fast or good skater etierh, it looks like even Victor Oreskovich skates better than Kassian. So tell me, which part of Kassian's game u have seen is bettr than guys like Bitz or Oreskovich since he is a Canucks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 lets all pick on Kassian! The guy who has the potential to be as good as rick nash... stupid thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 these threads are so pointless. You want kassian to play physical. First you have to get a solid forecheck going which our team has not been able to accomplish the last few games. We haven't been able to get close to any of there guys to throw a bodycheck unless its in our defensive zone. Secondly Kassian is a lot smarter than our bottom 6 guys as in weise and bitsz - which always throw themselves out of a good positional spot on the ice just to make a small minor hit. Kassian knows to make a small minor hit - will not affect the game in anyway that it's better to stay where he is, and stop the other team from attacking. Third. Kassian is not going to run around like morons like eager, burrish and so on, there always on the ice for goals against - just because your hitting doesn't mean the other team isn't attacking. When you have the chance to hit- YOU DO. When you don't you don't go looking for one, which is what all of CDC wants him to do. Fourth, this kid is going to be a stud- you will all be praising him come a few years. Wait until playoff's roll by and this kid is crushing everyone he see's, then there will be 20 threads on how amazing this kid is. there should be a minimum to make threads, its getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The other thing about Kassian's play that should be considered is the team that he came from, Buffalo. Not only does he have to learn Van's puck possession game but also has to fit into the culture. From what I have seen Buffalo plays the lanes, up and down. Kassian would be schooled along those veins. Sabres break more up the wings and Van goes up the middle. Like others have mentioned AV probably wants Kassian to look and learn for the balance of the regular season. There is no reason for extra pressure on a young rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_dynasty Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The thing that concerns me is that if you read some threads on the Sabres forum...they say Kassian is a floater. Not exactly what I want to hear if he's supposed to be a bruising 4th line checker. Yes he has potential...but let's be honest. Is he going to surplant Burrows, Sedins, Kesler, Booth and Higgins from the top 6 anytime soon? Right now...NO. Maybe in a few years...but not now...not for this cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The thing that concerns me is that if you read some threads on the Sabres forum...they say Kassian is a floater. Not exactly what I want to hear if he's supposed to be a bruising 4th line checker. Yes he has potential...but let's be honest. Is he going to surplant Burrows, Sedins, Kesler, Booth and Higgins from the top 6 anytime soon? Right now...NO. Maybe in a few years...but not now...not for this cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 you're? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gally Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Marchand was on the fourth line of the b's when they came into the playoffs and look what bs ended up doing? Give the kid a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 What are you smoking comparing him to Nash? Whatever happened to you "need to earn your ice time"? Kass should be in the AHL not in the NHL so he can get lots of ice time. Sofar out of 10 he is a 1 1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Ya but that was last year and this is now. Hodgson proved he can produce points this year and play a dependable two-way game. He wasn't going to win the Selke but he was solid and responsible at both ends of the ice. If for whatever reason Kesler or Henrik gets injured long-term (touch wood) we have no insurance at an offensive centre. Do you really want Pahlsson Malholtra or Lappy to centre your second line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 It was just one year ago when he was the same age as Kassian now, that Cody played 8 games and got two points and people were calling him a bust. Now Kassian who started training camp with a whole other team, came in when the team was pretty much a lock for the division title playing lackluster hockey, is getting bashed and saying that it was a fail of a trade. The mentality on these boards is ridiculous sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 It was just one year ago when he was the same age as Kassian now, that Cody played 8 games and got two points and people were calling him a bust. Now Kassian who started training camp with a whole other team, came in when the team was pretty much a lock for the division title playing lackluster hockey, is getting bashed and saying that it was a fail of a trade. The mentality on these boards is ridiculous sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubrick Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Kassian Dale Weise was brought in to add some grit but he has stopped hitting, doesn't fight and was next to invisible when Sedin got headhunted. He was brought in to take care of business in that specific situation and did nothing. I don't see anything in Kassian Weise that is better than Oreskovich. Bitz and Weise Kassian add better offence and are more physical. Why is Kassian Weise being played over them? I'm not trying to dump on Kassian Weise, he's just not NHL ready. Are you guys seeing something in him that I'm not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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