MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Feel free to lock this if you want. There might be a similar topic to this. I"m posting this because shortly after tonights loss, a huge number of Canuck fans are blaming Gillis for the failure, and is pin pointing the move that was Cody Hodgso Alex Sulzer for Zack Kassian and Mark Andre Gragnani. Ok, so you guys are frustrated probably because we lost tonight. I am too. You guys blaming everyone from players to coaches, and now for the first time ever since he took over as GM, asking for Mike Gillis to get fired. First off, I strongly disagree. Ever since he took over our team has consistently been at the top. A top 6 NHL team the first 2 seasons, a top 1 NHL team the following 2. We won the Presdients trophy back to back, something extremely hard to do. YOu can say he's using the pieces that Brian Burke and Nonis put together, however even with those pieces Nonis failed big time. But anyways, back on topic, you guys are blaming this on the Cody Hodgson trade. First off, Cody Hodgson, had a strong end of December and a wondering month of January. But after that he was mediocre, of course I will blame that on the lack of ice time A.V was giving him. He was then traded for Kassian, who right now, in my point of view is not NHL ready. No Brainer.... So you guys are saying Cody Hodgson would have made a difference? Maybe, but probably not. Cody Hodgson is the probably the sole reason why the Buffalo Sabres didn't even make the playoffs. Lindy Ruff did to Hodgson why A.V didn't do. Give him ice time, he had the ice time and failed miserably for the Buffalo Sabres. He was not generating scoring chances, and on top of that getting scored on. Lets put it this way, he got worst when he left Vancouver. It came to point were, if you really want to look at it, the Buffalo Sabres were better off with their previous number 2 centerman instead of Cody Hodgson, because he was nothing but liability, and ultimately as you see, the Buffalo Sabres didn't make the playoffs, and came in 9th. So now your telling me, Cody Hodgson would have made a difference? He has nice shot? I"m sure he does, he aveaged 2 shots on goal per game, and thats with 2nd line centerman ice time.... so don't tell me, Gillis should be fired because he traded Hodgson! He didn't even help Buffalo in regular season games, how the frack does a 3rd line hodgson make a difference???? I rest my case. Mike Gillis aint going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ugh, why blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This should get things going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev's Smirk Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 He'd be parked on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtpasc Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 did you run out of blue ink? I agree, you can't blame these losses on the CoHo trade, just like you can't blame them on the missing Sedin brother. Playing through adversity is how you win games and a playoff series and the Canucks just aren't doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ugh, why blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Cody wouldnt have made any difference, because AV simply does not trust him, he didnt trust him in the regular season, why would that change in the playoffs. He would be stapled to the bench like Kassian, infavour of our 'defensive spealist' Malhotra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKS4CUP 28 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 He would still be the 3rd liner that he was before he was traded. Nothing would have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 There would be no effect. Right now, it's all units that aren't firing - Hodge included had he stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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js604 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Disagreed. After the trade, many people have already predicted that if our top scorers were out (injured or in a slump), the loss of Hodgson would be apparent. This is exactly what's happening right now with Kesler in a slump and Daniel injured. Even if Hodgson was able to get ONE goal in total in the past 3 games, it could have made a world of difference. ONE goal from him isn't a far fetched expectation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksh0ckey Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 did you run out of blue ink? I agree, you can't blame these losses on the CoHo trade, just like you can't blame them on the missing Sedin brother. Playing through adversity is how you win games and a playoff series and the Canucks just aren't doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Solo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Disagreed. After the trade, many people have already predicted that if our top scorers were out (injured or in a slump), the loss of Hodgson would be apparent. This is exactly what's happening right now with Kesler in a slump and Daniel injured. Even if Hodgson was able to get ONE goal in total in the past 3 games, it could have made a world of difference. ONE goal from him isn't a far fetched expectation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshitomo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Cody wouldn't have made a difference but at least he would've served a purpose. Kassian hasn't done anything, not even hitting, since he got here. I don't even see glimpses of a power-forward at this moment. I hope he develops into one but he's been pretty disappointing. Right now, we're not hitting enough, Kesler-Higgins-Burrows-Henrik can't score, our PP isn't working and Salo isn't crippling players with his bombs:P Being down 0-3 is all on our top 2 lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Can someone tell me why when playing against a rugged defense first team we never gave Gragnani a shot???? Question his defensive abilities all you want, but this guy lead his freakin team in playoff scoring last year.... AS A ROOKIE D MAN. Gillis isn't an idiot, he is very prompt to address his teams needs. We traded away Hodgson and acquired Kassian to add some toughness to the team, and Gragnani to be insurance on the blueline. So what does AV do?? plays Kassian a whopping 3 minutes a game, and scratches Gragnani when we clearly could have used some more offense. With AV doing this we pretty much just subtracted Hodgson, Kassian, and Gragnani from our lineup without any replacements, all while Sedin was already out. Just makes no sense. These guys can play, they just need a chance.... Ask Philly how their youth is working out in the playoffs. I believe AV is gone next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKS4CUP 28 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think you can kind of blame it on the missing sedin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I didn't read the blue text but I will say this. It's even more clean to me now that the Hodgson trade was more fubar than I first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Maker Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Even Grabner instead of Ballard would've helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Nope. We had 2 healthy Sedins for the playoffs in 2009, 2010, and 2011. They didn't win us anything then, and they wouldn't win us anything now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristalinastar Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 He always does this in all of his threads, it's really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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