Do you think Jason Garrison will beat Adrian Aucoin's record for most goals as a Canuck Defenseman? (23g)

[5minutesinthebox]

That's 3% more than anyone else on the Canucks' defence LAST YEAR.

In 2010-11, Garrison's shooting percentage was 4.3%, less than Ehrhoff, Edler, Bieksa, and even Hamhuis.

So what's your point? SHP is largely influenced by LUCK, and affected by countless variables that make it completely free of informative value. It's a stat that's recorded largely for the sake of recording it. Tell me the informative value of knowing that Garrison's SHP was 9.5%. Do you think that all he needs to do, then, to score 18 goals next year, is simply take 200 shots on net? Fat chance.

Heck, in 2009-10, this guy named Keith Ballard "led" Florida with an 8.9% SHP. How'd that turn out for him?

[bd71]

I'm impressed so many think he can do it. Only 3 D have had more than 23 since the lockout. Green, Weber and Souray twice. Nobody has even been close since 2008-09.

I think it's a good pickup but to expect him to score at that level is not realistic. It's possible that no D player hits 23 in the length of Garrison's contract.

[Martin Frk]

It would be really cool if he could, but highly doubtful

I'll say he gets 16 goals and 24 assists for 40 points

[cIutch]

I voted no, as I think we will see a regression in Garrisons goal totals. His stats got inflation from Campbell, and I feel he'll be a sturdy shut-down guy who puts up a goal here and there in Vancouver.

[cIutch]

Tell me how its a pointless stat genius. You understand what shot % is right? It means when shoots the puck, 9.5% of the time it goes in. Thats 3% more than anyone else on the Canucks defence. The next closest was Salo, and we all know how many minutes he played. Compared to Edler, our top defensive point getter , he was 5% more accurate.

To make it even easier to grasp. Elder had 11g on 228 shots (1 goal on every 21 shots). Garrison had 16g on 168 shots (1 goal on every 11 shots).

But thanks for playing our game

[Tortorella's Rant]

Shooting % does hold water for the most part. It can be a little.. somewhat misleading like plus minus. There is luck involved occasionally as King of ES mentioned. But I would say it is a pretty fair representation of the players scoring ability during the season. I am more inclined to side with ES here. It is a meaningless stat when you talk about Garrison. He had a high shooting % among defencemen and a high goal total as well. It is meaningless because he has not consistently done this nor has he had the opportunity. It's been ONE season. Just like when Henrik won the Art Ross, he had the best shooting % of the top 30 NHL scorers in the league. I would say he is a better goal scorer than he leads people to believe, but aside from that one stat, I have no real evidence to back that up as he hasn't even close close to that % since. Until Garrison consistently puts up offensive numbers like he did in Florida, more so in the goal column, I will be reluctant to call him one of the better goal scoring defencemen in this league.

[Nuck-Shot]

Could be edler too

[King of the ES]

So youre saying that shot % is based solely on luck? So shooters score more because they are simply lucky. Good argument.

[tas]

You used the fact that his goals dropped after Febuary to prove a point. But you cant look simply at his goal production and say that he disappeared later in the season. I see this thread being about production...if Garrison only gets 10g but gets 30as do you still think he has regressed from the previous season.

Vancouvers first unit is far superior to that of Florida thereby spreading defences thinner when trying to defend on the powerplay.

Will Garrison break Aucoins record? Im going to say no, but I think he could hit 18 and have a 40 point season.

Its not a stretch by any means to think that Garrison will have a career year here. Higgins, Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Samuelsson, all had career years after coming to the Canucks. And our system promotes defencemen to join the rush. Combine that with a powerplay that will be right up there as one of the leagues best, and I see his production rising substantially.

[nuck nit]

Now that Salo is gone he has the chance to fill the void.

If he has a chance,it means he plays first minute PP time.

However,he is not an offensive d man,he is a defensive specialist with a hard shot.

Teamed with Brian Campbell is like playing with Gretzky for padding the stats,but let's see what he is capable of,wish him the best and hope for the best.

Personally,I am really tired of seeing Edler break his stick on every second opportunity so I am stoked.

[Nucks fan555555]

Only time will tell

[UFCanuck]

I say he'll get 9 goals, 28 assists for 37 points.

As well as being a great shut down defense partner to cover Edler.

[Kack Zassian]

I would be happy with 10-20-30

[Blame Obama]

coulda swore bieksa had 23 goals not to long ago.. no?

[Tortorella's Rant]

The fact of the matter is he's going to get more assists than last season with all the viable passing options he will have. I would be satisfied with a 10g, 25a season from him. That shouldn't be an unrealistic target for him.

[Dildo Faggins]

Anyone think Garrison has the potential to replace Ehrhoff and put up 50 points?

[nuck nit]

Garrison is a defensive d man with a slapper.

Ehrhoff is a well rounded offensive d man.

Garrison with Campbell -good.Garrison with Bieksa? Not so good.

[DollarAndADream]

Garrison won't score 20. Unless he is some kind of offensive dynamo like Karlsson.

[WEEWILLY01]

no way!!!!!

[-AJ-]

I think people may be disappointed if they're hoping for 15+ goals. I'm only counting on 5-10. If he really clicks on the PP, then he can maybe get 15 or more.