Do you think Jason Garrison will beat Adrian Aucoin's record for most goals as a Canuck Defenseman? (23g)

[5minutesinthebox]

You do realize that he's a d-man and not a winger, therefor the Sedin's aren't really "assisting" him, right?

[*vInTaGe*]

Well here's hoping, but that's quite a high total.

[King of the ES]

His shot % is still 2nd best in the entire NHL for a defenceman.

[5minutesinthebox]

my bad, i was going from memory. the same principle applies though.

and yeah, he adapted, but this thread is about goals, not assists.

[5minutesinthebox]

Utterly pointless stat.

[4thLineGrinder]

at least the fan base here will let the G-bomber have some time to adjust to a new system before placing unnessesary expectations and pressure on the guy.

"If he dosn't have at least 15 goals by the all star break we can call him a bust, fire AV, fire MG, trade the sedins, ect ect."

he has a bomb of a shot but isn't his defensive play what earned him his ice time in the first place? I'd just like him to stay healthy and hopefully develop some chemisty with our current D core through pre season

[5minutesinthebox]

at least the fan base here will let the G-bomber have some time to adjust to a new system before placing unnessesary expectations and pressure on the guy.

"If he dosn't have at least 15 goals by the all star break we can call him a bust, fire AV, fire MG, trade the sedins, ect ect."

he has a bomb of a shot but isn't his defensive play what earned him his ice time in the first place? I'd just like him to stay healthy and hopefully develop some chemisty with our current D core through pre season

[5minutesinthebox]

DP

[BananaMash]

That being the case, I presume that you think it was foolish to give him a 6-year, $27.6M deal?

[TimberWolf]

If you are expecting him to break the record or the deal was a bust, you may have a terrible viewing experience.

I think he will get about 15 provided he gets favourable powerplay minutes

[AFrame14]

I voted no, as I think we will see a regression in Garrisons goal totals. His stats got inflation from Campbell, and I feel he'll be a sturdy shut-down guy who puts up a goal here and there in Vancouver.

[mmmcookies1975]

Yes...I'm an optimist. Plus Garrison has come to a better skilled team than Florida.

[King of the ES]

Tell me how its a pointless stat genius. You understand what shot % is right? It means when shoots the puck, 9.5% of the time it goes in. Thats 3% more than anyone else on the Canucks defence. The next closest was Salo, and we all know how many minutes he played. Compared to Edler, our top defensive point getter , he was 5% more accurate.

[King of the ES]

Did I say that? No. I think it was a good deal considering the market value of defense. I think he will break 10 goals, but I think his main asset to Vancouver is going to be his shut-down ability, especially if he's paired with Edler.

Man this site. You have one opinion that goes against the collective and you don't hear the end of it.

[BananaMash]

I'm not knocking you at all. I happen to think that it was a foolish, risky, and reactive signing (a reaction to not procuring J. Schultz).

My point was that if you're not expecting a lot of offense from him, and just "steady, reliable, defensive play", what was the point of signing him to such a massive contract, when we could've instead just extended Sami Salo, or even Aaron Rome? I don't understand all of this "oh, we don't need him to score a bunch, we just want solid, defensive play" talk. The guy was given 6 years and nearly $30M. He better be bringing the sort of offense that he brought to Florida last year, because that's why he was given the contract that he was.

I mean, do you really think Jason Garrison would've got the deal that he did this summer if he posted stats equivalent to his 2010-11 season? Think again. And stop having such low expectations. He signed for big money, now it's time for him to step up. Welcome back to Vancouver, Jason.

[King of the ES]

Garrison is much younger, and even if he had hit only his 2010-2011 season numbers (5 goals, 13 assists) he probably could have made ~$4,000,000 (probably just under) just because he is entering the prime of his career for a defender.

[Red Light Racicot]

Lol?

[BananaMash]

Weak argument. Who cares that he's younger? He hasn't proven anything. You can't compare his history in the NHL to Willie Mitchell's. When WM signed his big deal with us, he had played nearly 2X more NHL games than Garrison has, and was far more established as a serious defence-first defenceman. I consider myself a pretty knowledgeable and in-the-loop NHL fan, and I don't recall hearing anything of Jason Garrison prior to this past season, so I don't know where all of this "amazing shut down d-man" talk has come from. He was an undrafted, low-cost alternative for the Panthers to plug into their lineup and save money. That's really about the jist of it.

Good for him for having a sort-of breakout season in what is a contract renewal year, but if he's REALLY that good, don't you think that the Panthers may have worked a little harder to sign him? 28 year-old defencemen who are really good aren't easy to find, and you're probably best to hold onto them, just ask Mike Gillis RE: Christian Ehrhoff.

[Captain Aerosex]

No

[Gollumpus]

Good for him for having a sort-of breakout season in what is a contract renewal year, but if he's REALLY that good, don't you think that the Panthers may have worked a little harder to sign him? 28 year-old defencemen who are really good aren't easy to find, and you're probably best to hold onto them, just ask Mike Gillis RE: Christian Ehrhoff.