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Top 10 Most Dominant Players of All Time

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why are people saying 'Ovechkin in his prime'... The guy is 27, he isn't 40 and won't retire for some time. I think he is yet to hit his prime. The Sedins started their prime in their late 20's/early 30's like a lot of other NHLers. He has had 65 and 85 point seasons the past 2 years which have been considered bad. If those stats are bad then what do you consider good or amazing. This year our top players (stats-wise) were the Sedins with 81 and 67.

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Lindros top 10 really ?

Bossy and Forsberg belong

I would have Gretzky above Lemieux

Too soon for Crosby (imo)

what about Patrick Roy (Patrick Waaa) and Messier (disliked him Him after Edmonton)

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My top 10

1) Wayne Gretzkey- how can anyone with the NHL record for most points, assists and goals in both the regular season and playoffs not be dominate

2) Mario Lemieux- only player whose skills and stats compare with the Great One

3) Bobby Orr- putting on the numbers like he did as a defencemen show's he was able to dominate.

4) Mike Bossy- 2nd all time for PPG, 3rd all time for PPG and winner of 4 Stanley Cups.

5) Patrick Roy- 3 Conn Smythe trophies show Roy could dominate win it counts

6) Gordie Howe- could hurt you physically and on the score board, a dominate player in the NHL for decades

7) Sidney Crosby- Fourth highest PPG of any player with more than 500pts despite playing in today's tight checking NHL, scored the golden goal and is youngest ever captain to win a Stanley Cup.

8) Pavel Bure- one of the most exciting players to ever play the game, was impossible to stop when he was in his prime.

9) Maurice "the Rocket" Richard- the orginal Rocket. Like Pure he was impossible to stop when in full stride and was one of the most existing players to watch as fan but one of the hardest to play against.

10) Eric Lindross- Showed flashes of brillance and when heathly proved he was amongest the best power forwards in the game.

Honorable Mention

1) Scott Stevens- Just ask number 10 on my list how hard Scott Stevens was to play against, dominated by intimidating his oppendents with big hits.

2) Dominik Hasek- the nickname say's it all really.

3) Mark Messier- if you don't think he can dominate just ask the 94 Canucks.

4) Peter Foresberg- one of teh best two way players to ever play the game, dominated the league when healthy.

5) Valeri Kharlamov- it took a cheap shot from Bobby Clarke to shut him down and help Canada win the Summit Series.

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I would like to see Peter Stastny get a mention.

  • 1st player in NHL history to collect over 100 points in rookie year (109). Note: Wayne Gretzky had 137 points in his first year in the NHL (1979–80), but was not considered a "rookie", due to his time spent with the World Hockey Association's Indianapolis Racers and Edmonton Oilers, where he won the rookie of the year award in that league during the 1978–79 season with 104 points.

  • One of four players to record 1000 or more points in the decade of the 1980s (1059). Previously, only Phil Esposito had topped 1000 points in one decade.

  • One of 7 players in NHL history to record at least 6 consecutive 100+ point seasons.

  • Shares NHL record for assists by a rookie (70) with Joé Juneau.

  • Holds NHL record for points in a game by a rookie with 8 (four goals and four assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).

  • Holds NHL record for points in a road game with 8 (four goals and four assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).

  • Holds NHL record for points in 2 consecutive games with 14 (3 goals and 3 assists on February 20, 1981 against Vancouver Canucks and 4 goals and 4 assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).[1]

  • Recorded 100th NHL point with an assist on March 29, 1981 against the Montreal Canadiens. He was the first official NHL rookie to accomplish the feat.

  • Recorded 1000th NHL point on October 19, 1989 with a goal against the Chicago Blackhawks, and was the second European-born player, and first trained in Europe, in NHL history to do so. Stan Mikita, the first European-born player to score 1000 points, was born in Slovakia, but raised in Canada.

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 200 points (131 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (117), Mario Lemieux (128) & Cy Denneny (130)

  • 2nd fastest player in NHL history to score 300 points (186 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (159) tied with Mario Lemieux (186)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 400 points (247 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (197) & Mario Lemieux (240)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 500 points (322 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (234) & Mario Lemieux (287)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 600 points (394 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (273) & Mario Lemieux (323)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 700 points (457 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (317) & Mario Lemieux (363)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 800 points (531 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (352) & Mario Lemieux (410) & Mike Bossy (524)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 900 points (599 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (385) Mario Lemieux (463) & Mike Bossy (582)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 1000 points (682 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (424) Mario Lemieux (513) & Mike Bossy (656)

Also as the poster above said Joe Sakic must also be in with a shout.

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I would consider Scott Stevens to be an honorable mention as well as Ovechkin. As much as people hate him, he can single handedly manhandle any team on any given day.

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why are people saying 'Ovechkin in his prime'... The guy is 27, he isn't 40 and won't retire for some time. I think he is yet to hit his prime. The Sedins started their prime in their late 20's/early 30's like a lot of other NHLers. He has had 65 and 85 point seasons the past 2 years which have been considered bad. If those stats are bad then what do you consider good or amazing. This year our top players (stats-wise) were the Sedins with 81 and 67.

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I would like to see Peter Stastny get a mention.

  • 1st player in NHL history to collect over 100 points in rookie year (109). Note: Wayne Gretzky had 137 points in his first year in the NHL (1979–80), but was not considered a "rookie", due to his time spent with the World Hockey Association's Indianapolis Racers and Edmonton Oilers, where he won the rookie of the year award in that league during the 1978–79 season with 104 points.

  • One of four players to record 1000 or more points in the decade of the 1980s (1059). Previously, only Phil Esposito had topped 1000 points in one decade.

  • One of 7 players in NHL history to record at least 6 consecutive 100+ point seasons.

  • Shares NHL record for assists by a rookie (70) with Joé Juneau.

  • Holds NHL record for points in a game by a rookie with 8 (four goals and four assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).

  • Holds NHL record for points in a road game with 8 (four goals and four assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).

  • Holds NHL record for points in 2 consecutive games with 14 (3 goals and 3 assists on February 20, 1981 against Vancouver Canucks and 4 goals and 4 assists on February 22, 1981 against Washington Capitals).[1]

  • Recorded 100th NHL point with an assist on March 29, 1981 against the Montreal Canadiens. He was the first official NHL rookie to accomplish the feat.

  • Recorded 1000th NHL point on October 19, 1989 with a goal against the Chicago Blackhawks, and was the second European-born player, and first trained in Europe, in NHL history to do so. Stan Mikita, the first European-born player to score 1000 points, was born in Slovakia, but raised in Canada.

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 200 points (131 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (117), Mario Lemieux (128) & Cy Denneny (130)

  • 2nd fastest player in NHL history to score 300 points (186 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (159) tied with Mario Lemieux (186)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 400 points (247 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (197) & Mario Lemieux (240)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 500 points (322 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (234) & Mario Lemieux (287)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 600 points (394 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (273) & Mario Lemieux (323)

  • 3rd fastest player in NHL history to score 700 points (457 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (317) & Mario Lemieux (363)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 800 points (531 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (352) & Mario Lemieux (410) & Mike Bossy (524)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 900 points (599 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (385) Mario Lemieux (463) & Mike Bossy (582)

  • 4th fastest player in NHL history to score 1000 points (682 GP) behind Wayne Gretzky (424) Mario Lemieux (513) & Mike Bossy (656)

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If Ovechkin was unstoppable, where is his ring? He was good but couldn't get it done when it mattered,

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How is Rocket Richard not in any of these conversations? He is just as good as Howe if not better. I generally agree with the list otherwise.

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I think skill, dominance and explosiveness have a lot of overlap but are not exactly the same thing.

For example, I would put Lindros in my top 10 for dominance but not for skill or explosiveness. The Sedins rank high in skill but aren't explosive players and don't dominate physically. Bure is a great example of an explosive player.

Skill is more puck-handling/passing/shooting, explosiveness is speed combined with skill and dominance is physicality combined with skill. A player with immense skill (Gretzky) can be dominant without the physical part of his game but he is a rare exception.

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Shannahan ought to be on there - arugably one of the most dominant power forwards of all time.

Messier, as much as we hate him, is definitely top 10.

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Ovechkin in his prime was a lot better than any of the Kings forwards who all just won a cup.

Cup rings don't mean anything when evaluating an individual hockey player.

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How could people have mentioned Patrick Roy and not Terry Sawchuck?

He boasts a career high of 1.90GAA in the 1950s and was literally unstoppable.

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Anyone who doesn't have Lindros in their top 10 should look at youtube videos of him, seriously. Everyone else was basically a rag doll when he hit them. If only the Stevens-Lindros hit didn't happen what could have been....

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So basically, for me, it's the same thing as the "greatest players" except that you ignore longevity. I was gonna make a simple list, but you know me, I had to go on and expand on each player and stuff.

1. Wayne Gretzky

Gretzky is the most dominant player, period. He controlled the ice like none other. It seemed like he always knew exactly what was going to happen.

2. Bobby Orr

No defense man ever dominated like Orr. He could change the speed of the game with just one rush.

3. Mario Lemieux

Lemieux dominated with such an unstoppable force during his reign.

4. Mike Bossy

One of the best snipers of all-time. He could make nothing turn into a goal with a good shot.

5. Dominik Hasek

He gets bonus points for his nick-name. :P. The Dominator really dominated when he was at the top of his game. Some others were more consistent, but few were better during their best moments.

6. Joe Malone

If you've never heard of Joe Malone, look him up. He's the only player with more than 100 games that has scored MORE than 1 goal per game. He scored a mind boggling 44 goals in 20 games in 1917-18. He also scored 7 goals in one game, another record.

7. Marcel Dionne

Over 1.3 points per game over his career. Dionne had six seasons of 50 goals or more as well as six seasons of 120 points or more, including three consecutive 130+ point seasons.

8. Pavel Bure

No bias here. Seriously. Most of this list is based off statistics. The stat that put Bure on this list is his career goals per game. He has the 3rd highest goals-per-game of players since 1940 (min. 100 games).

9. Sidney Crosby

Thus far Sidney Crosby has slowly been dominating the league more and more. When he started in the NHL he was one of the most dominant players in the league. Now, he's pretty much the undisputed most dominant player in the league. He hasn't finished his career yet, but so far he's been very dominant when he's healthy.

10. Valeri Kharlamov

The only non-NHLer on the list, Kharlamov completely dominated with the Red Army team in the 1970s. He didn't let up against Canada in the 1972 Summit Series, when Canada had to get Bobby Clarke to break his ankle to stop him from almost single handedly beating the Canadians.

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Don't forget that guys like Crosby and Ovechkin are controlling games and putting up historic numbers despite playing in a league where checking is much tighter, defences are far better and goalies are leagues better than what they were with new technologies helping their equipment.

No disrespect to Gretzky and Lemieux, but they wouldn't be anywhere near as dominant in todays league as they were during their eras and it's something we shouldn't forget when comparing players of different times.

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