Cpt.Clutch Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Stuck in traffic right now. CKNW reports the bridge is closed until further notice due to falling ice which has damaged vehicles and injured a few people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horny Manatee Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Who can we blame? Christy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Who can we blame? Christy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Port Mann Bridge closed in both directions due to falling ice and snow; two people injured Global News : Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:00 AM The new billion-dollar Port Mann Bridge has been closed in both directions indefinitely due to falling ice and snow. There are reports two people have been injured, and approximately five vehicles have been hit. "The closure was necessary because falling ice from the bridge injured a motorist who required ambulance attendance, and damaged vehicles," said Sergeant Peter Thiessen, spokesperson for LMD Traffic Services in a release. "The bridge was closed for safety reasons, and will be re-opened as soon as the weather situation improves." Global News has received several tweets from drivers saying that “ice bombs” have been falling and causing serious damage to their vehicles. Catherine was a passenger in her work vehicle driving across the Port Mann Bridge when a chuck of ice hit the back of the vehicle. "Suddenly there was a big smash," she said. "I think it's just dented on the roof. It was crazy." She said cars were stopped everywhere on the bridge as well. Other motorists have had their windshields smashed, hoods dented and mirrors damaged. Drive BC is advising commuters to take alternate routes such as the Patullo Bridge or the Golden Ears Bridge until an assessment can be completed. Read it on Global News: Global BC | Port Mann Bridge closed in both directions due to falling ice and snow; two people injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The engineers and Kiewit construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 From Global... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampage Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 From Global... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 lol wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Who's the Port Man and why is he closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 and they had to pay for the privilege of being bombed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Recalling SkyTrain fail due to snow. Snow and ice are regularly overlooked aspects in engineering. Basically, there was no way they could tell that this was going to be a problem beforehand. But they sure will be paid a lot in order to fix the problem pronto. Not a good way to spend Christmas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 damnn .. not only is the falling ice dangerous but the drivers reaction to something smashing into their car out of nowhere might cause them to swerve and take out other drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Recalling SkyTrain fail due to snow. Snow and ice are regularly overlooked aspects in engineering. Basically, there was no way they could tell that this was going to be a problem beforehand. But they sure will be paid a lot in order to fix the problem pronto. Not a good way to spend Christmas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Who can we blame? Christy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Bettman/Fehr. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The easiest way to solve this issue is to leave the other bridge standing. so it can be used in cases of emergency. Set up a system that makes it still work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The easiest way to solve this issue is to leave the other bridge standing. so it can be used in cases of emergency. Set up a system that makes it still work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No can do. It's in the way of the remaining lanes bridge approaches. They have to remove the old bridge to install them. Also you can bet that recycling the bridge (which has a lot of steel in it) is part of the contract. That would be a big $$$ item to the contractor. Randomly taking it out of the contract would be a massive change. Basically your looking at the world's biggest change order (at the last minute to boot). No way that happens. Try to force it and this ends up in court with construction halted until it's resolved many, many years into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 So halt the construction and tie up the company in litigation. Sounds like a perfectly good plan. The way I see it you actually end up with more lanes if you do it my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I suspect that some sortof steel mesh will be affixed directly underneath the freezing points in question, then whatever falls off will be caught so it can melt. Either that or the shape of whatever is catching the ice will be changed so it can't accumulate. Worst case they'd run electric heat up there to keep it from freezing up during these times. All solutions aren't great to work on, given the location. Hope for non-freezing weather in the meantime. Umm best way to solve this would not to be having cables over the traveled portion of the bridge. Kind of hard to retrofit that. If I was the bridge guys I would just eat the claims for damage and whatever the penalty is for not having the bridge open when this kind of freeze up happens every couple years. Though it's safe to say there will be lawyers involved before (and if) anything gets fixed for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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