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Past Canuck Talent Tearin' it up?

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Not necessarily tearing it up but Brian McCabe got better after he left the Canucks.

Grabner had a race for the Calder in NYI but I honestly think it was more about being forced to play more minutes and assume a big role. He's a star on a bottom feeding team and could not crack the line up of the President's trophy team.

One thing I have noticed though...

Many players who leave the Canucks end up declining in production with thier new teams:

Linden, Bure, Bertuzzi, Morrison, Naslund, Erhoff,

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Hodgson hasn't been tearin' much up since he left, other than the Buffalo Sabres' playoff hopes and his right hand.

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-Peter Schaeffer had 2-3 decent seasons for Ottawa. But we got Salo in return.

-Andrew Cassels went on to do stuff for Columbus. Lost as UFA. Might've helped us to keep him for another year.

-Trent Klatt lost as UFA. Played one alright season in LA then retired after the lockout. He wanted a multi-year deal.

-Same with Murray Baron. Played one season in StL then retired after the lockout.

-Chubarov was lost to the Russians. Again, wanted a bit too much for the tight Canucks. He had a few good seasons over there.

These are all from awhile ago.

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One that always bugs me is Cliff Ronning. He was a great second line center for years after we let him walk in free agency. Hometown guy too. Geoff Courtnall had many productive seasons after he left.

Don't forget Rick Vaive. Had a couple of 50 goal seasons.

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Wow, this turned into a "Cody" Thread fast... :picard:

Mike Peca - Although for Mogilny this was a way to give up on a great player that they would need in later years

Geoff Sanderson- Speed kills defences, Good player for years to come

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One that always bugs me is Cliff Ronning.  He was a great second line center for years after we let him walk in free agency.  Hometown guy too.

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Players that Canucks fans might have missed:

-Matt Cooke scored a career-high 19 goals last season. Matt Pettinger? Ugh.

-Wellwood has done alright since leaving, but if he wasn't an ex-Leaf and ex-Canuck, nobody would cover him.

-Grabner has done well for the Islanders, earning a multi-year deal.

-Willie Mitchell won the cup last season. With his noggin' fixed up, he proved to be very valuable for them for when LA was granted their cup run.

-Christian Ehrhoff had an 'alright' season for Buffalo, but is hardly worth the money he earned.

-Torres and Glass were also 'alright' for their new clubs. Glass is now is Pittsburgh while Torres is suspended forever?

-Hodgson has 1g, 12a in 13gp for the Amerks. Skilled, but fairly injury-prone.

Since everything else has panned out so far, the big question is of course will we miss Cody Hodgson? And there is much debate about that. He could do fairly well post-lockout on a team like Buffalo's, which typically used a 4-line attack and an inflated powerplay for their big post-2005 lockout seasons. But is he star material, let lone a legit #1 center? Not sure.

Players we don't:

-Naslund, Morrison, Ritchie, Isbister, and Ryan Shannon all didn't do much after the Canucks lost them.

-Jeff Cowan hasn't done much since his 6-game Brabarian stint with the Sedins.

-Ohlund played one season with Tampa and has been injured since.

-Mathieu Schneider hasn't done much since being dumped.

-Steve Bernier went to the finals last season in NJ as a 4th liner. He took a 5-minute penalty to end that series for them, but was re-signed.

-Darcy Hordichuk and Shane O'Brien, career nothings, went on to become nothings with their new clubs.

-Shirokov currently has 3g, 3a in 18gp for CSKA Moscow.

-Samuelsson and Sturm were injured most of last season. Sammy is now back in Detroit where he can float around while Sturm is likely done.

-Byron Bitz. Not sure what he's doing now.

-Pahlsson has played just one game for Modo this season.

-Gragnani has 14pts, -3 in 20gp for the Checkers. Speedy, but insanely useless, defensively.

-Duco? Where is he?

-Oreskovich? Where is he?

-Rome is getting ready to be a Dallas Star.

-Eric Walsky. Remember him? Swiss league. Injured.

-And Sami Salo joins Ohlund in TB. The lockout hurts him. He may not have much gas left in the tank.

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Not necessarily tearing it up but Brian McCabe got better after he left the Canucks.

Grabner had a race for the Calder in NYI but I honestly think it was more about being forced to play more minutes and assume a big role. He's a star on a bottom feeding team and could not crack the line up of the President's trophy team.

One thing I have noticed though...

Many players who leave the Canucks end up declining in production with thier new teams:

Linden, Bure, Bertuzzi, Morrison, Naslund, Erhoff,

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Surprised no one mentiond Martin Gelinas. When the Canucks dumped him (frack you Mike Keenan) after two consecutive 30 goal seasons. He proved he still had a little gas left in the tank.

After he was shown the door he played another 726 games, scoring 153 goals and 357 points. Not bad for a guy who the Canucks acquired for the cost of a waiver wire pick up of $5,000.

That's the best pickup ever apart from the Red Wings getting Kris Draper from Winnipeg for $1.

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Seen a couple people say we let Shirokov walk for nothing when in fact we traded him to Florida for Mike Duco...

Sergei's not exactly tearing it up in CSKA, but then again he's got a lot of returnee Russian NHLers playing ahead of him. Not all that great of a loss IMO

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I'm surprised some people are still bringing up Shirokov, considering he couldn't even light it up with the twins in his brief regular season stint with us. Hell, even Jeff Cowan could for a short, Shirokov-like stretch.

He did light it up with the twins in the preseason though. (Do we get too excited about the preseason?) It's a real shame that Shiro couldn't convert his preseason success into any regular season success, but that's the way she goes. Perhaps we could've converted him into something better than Mike Duco if he did something.

Still, no NHL team would pay Shiro his KHL money unless he was very good. It was boom or bust for him with the twins and he definitely busted. It's a shame.

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