Did I ever say that stats were the only thing that matters? No, and of course that's not true.
The indisputable fact is that at the 30-game mark of the AHL season, Kassian has far less goals, and less points, than what he had last season. That's all I'm bringing up. You can make any excuse you want, the fact of the matter is that it's not encouraging. If he instead was one of the AHL leaders in either/both of the categories, this place would be endlessly abuzz, which you cannot deny.
Here's my problem with a lot of the sentiment around here:
See the problem?
- Zack Kassian: big year-over-year decline in goals, points, and shots. "Who cares? Not concerned, he's gonna be great. Stop trolling".
- Anton Rodin: 1 goal in 22 games. "Who cares? Not concerned, he's gonna be great. Stop trolling".
- Kevin Connauton: big decline in virtually every conceivable category, year-over-year. "Who cares? Not concerned, he's gonna be great. Stop trolling".
- Justin Schultz: 17 goals, 45 points in 32 games: "The AHL sucks anyway, those stats are not impressive and they don't mean anything. Just look at M.A. Gragnani in the AHL".
God King this is getting rediculous, I'm lay gunna it all on the table and explain it for you..
Your taking Canuck Fan cliches and applying them to this when that isn't the case.
Everyone has "admitted" if you will that what Schultz is doing is unbelievable, that still doesn't mean that he will be able to do it at the NHL level, or that it was a "Mistake" he chose Edmonton instead of coming here, or that Garrison wasn't a better signing for us (Which he was)
The reason we aren't worried about Kassian is because he has been playing well, if he was struggling and had lowsy stats then by all means bring it up, I would be concerned too, but everyone can see (Cause they watch the Wolves games) He is playing fine, being physical, making plays, doing good things. That doesn't always result in points, sometimes you get stimeid. And it has also been noted this team is playing terrible and the coaching as been terrible, and I also think it is worht noting he has had 2 or 3 goals wavied off for BS reasons. So to reiterate on Kass, he is doing good things, just not being rewarded yet, everyone can see he is playing fine despite him not producing to the "Dominant" level everyone would love to see. He is still 2nd on the team in scoring and is consistently one of there best players, and that alone proves the team has struggled, he has played well and he stats aren't that bad.
Rodin: I love how you do this, you say "1 goal in 18 games, 1 goal in 22 games" yet you discredit that he actually has 8 Points, playing on the third line and less, playing every 2nd game. You twist the facts in your favour. Now the thing you have to understand about him is no one is expecting him to light it up, no one is really expecting much, I don't know why you harp on it no one is surprised his production is like this. NO ONE. For the record I think he has all the tools in his game, he just has to continue to develop, get stronger, and put it all together, but that doesn't excuse the fact we all hoped for more, but it takes players longer to adjust and Anton has always been sort of a project. No one really expected more, you need to be patient with him.
Connaution: If you read the PGT's everyone agrees he has been not as good as last year, the PP has been brutal (Which affects him but can't be pinned on him, alot has to do with coaching) And he has been on a pair with a terrible defensmen (Joslin) rather than with Tanev like he should be, that's who he plays best with, another example of great coaching from "The Genius" as I call him. The bottom line here is everyone can identify that he hasn't been as good, for one reason or another with one circumstance or another to consider he hasn't been as good, no one is arguing that.
Now the thing you have to realize before you go off on our prospect and whatever. Is:
1. The circumstances.
2. How the overall team is doing
3. What fans realisticlly expect of them
4. What fans hope they will be
5. How long fans expect them to take
6. And to look futher into there play before making incorrect judgments based on reading stats sheets, and this goes for everything not just prospects (This also ties in with the 1st one just a bit)
Now I hope you read read that atleast 10 times before you respond because if you come back with a stat related argument without actually knowing what is going on, and u come back harping on prospects that no one expected to be much further ahead than they already are, then that will be the #1 sign that you are simply Trolling (As if it isn't obvious already like duh) And honestly my post isn't about arguing about prospects anyways so I don't know why you would but you never fail to amazing me so I am bracing myself for the worst.
Now seriously come on King, please just realize these things before you post and unfairly judge with no clue of what is even going on in the first place.
Above all else just take everything I said into heavy consideration before you reply please.
Edited by Smashian Kassian, 04 January 2013 - 07:54 AM.