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#61 Dasein

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

Name a regular season game in recent memory that would have higher TV ratings. Don't worry, I'll wait......still waiting....

TO is the biggest eastern market, Van is the biggest western market. It's 2013, people have cable on their cell phones! There's canucks fans in AFGHANSTAN!

So...thanks for your worthless contribution to this thread, now BEAT IT!


Toronto population = 2.6 million
Vancouver population = 0.6 million

NYC population = 8.2 million

If all the people in Toronto and Vancouver watched the game, it would be 3.2 million views.

If a little over a third of New Yorkers watched the game, it would match that number. Now add another American city with a big population and fairly well-known fanbase with a bit of a rivalry (Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, etc). Do all the math you want, but if you're forgetting the numbers, there's no point in doing it.

Canada has a higher percentage of hockey fans per population, and although American cities have lower percentage of hockey fans in their population, they have so many more people.

Also, put them in a Winter Classic. Guaranteed most hockey fans that aren't even a fan of the two teams would watch it. So there's no way a VAN-TO showdown would be the most watched game.

2011 Winter Classic had 4.6 million viewers - and that's just the number from NBC. Add Canadian views from CBC and that numbers got to be upwards of 5-6 million.

Edited by Dasein, 09 January 2013 - 08:18 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:21 PM

People like you will need to be reminded that Luongo shows up for more big games than he melts down, while the team generally never shows up offensively in the playoffs. Maybe then people like you shut the hell up.


Yeah I guess your'e right. If the team doesn't score then why shouldn't Luongo give up half a dozen goals a game?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

I'm sure the winter classic will get more views, the stanley cup rematch game from last year will probably have more views.


LA vs NJ will have more viewers? I'd rather watch paint dry...and personally, I'd watch a game with a good story line over a gimmick like the winter classic every time.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

Toronto population = 2.6 million
Vancouver population = 0.6 million

NYC population = 8.2 million

If all the people in Toronto and Vancouver watched the game, it would be 3.2 million views.

If a little over a third of New Yorkers watched the game, it would match that number. Now add another American city with a big population and fairly well-known fanbase with a bit of a rivalry (Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, etc). Do all the math you want, but if you're forgetting the numbers, there's no point in doing it.

Canada has a higher percentage of hockey fans per population, and although American cities have lower percentage of hockey fans in their population, they have so many more people.

Also, put them in a Winter Classic. Guaranteed most hockey fans that aren't even a fan of the two teams would watch it. So there's no way a VAN-TO showdown would be the most watched game.

2011 Winter Classic had 4.6 million viewers - and that's just the number from NBC. Add Canadian views from CBC and that numbers got to be upwards of 5-6 million.

Toronto population = 2.6 million
Vancouver population = 0.6 million

NYC population = 8.2 million

If all the people in Toronto and Vancouver watched the game, it would be 3.2 million views.

If a little over a third of New Yorkers watched the game, it would match that number. Now add another American city with a big population and fairly well-known fanbase with a bit of a rivalry (Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, etc). Do all the math you want, but if you're forgetting the numbers, there's no point in doing it.

Canada has a higher percentage of hockey fans per population, and although American cities have lower percentage of hockey fans in their population, they have so many more people.

Also, put them in a Winter Classic. Guaranteed most hockey fans that aren't even a fan of the two teams would watch it. So there's no way a VAN-TO showdown would be the most watched game.

2011 Winter Classic had 4.6 million viewers - and that's just the number from NBC. Add Canadian views from CBC and that numbers got to be upwards of 5-6 million.


Thanks for the numbers, puts things into perspective. I suppose it would also matter what time of year they played because I don't think many ppl in NY are watching the Rangers if the Yankees are in the playoffs. Same goes for the Knicks/Giants etc.

But I suppose in the perfect storm, the winter classic would draw more viewers. But that's about it!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:36 PM

And why do my posts quote the previous person's post twice when I reply? That's annoying...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

Name a regular season game in recent memory that would have higher TV ratings. Don't worry, I'll wait......still waiting....

TO is the biggest eastern market, Van is the biggest western market. It's 2013, people have cable on their cell phones! There's canucks fans in AFGHANSTAN!

So...thanks for your worthless contribution to this thread, now BEAT IT!


Any Winter/Heritage Classic, any rematch of the previous years Cup Finals, most Rangers games against any other big market, alot of original 6 match-ups. I'd put my money on those having higher ratings than a Schneider/Luongo duel everytime.

Dont care if there are Canuck fans Afghanistan, Guam, and Timbuktu....not enough hockey fans outside of Vancouver will care to get the ratings required to come even remotely close to any ratings record. What, you think Flyers fans will give a hoot about that game? Or Sharks fans are gonna skip thier own game to watch Toronto vs Vancouver? You think that game is even gonna be aired in most markets? HAHA!

How about this......The biggest regular season game in the history of the NHL will be the first time Raffi Torres faces the Blackhawks after the Hossa hit. That game will be HUGE!!!!! (see how dumb that sounds). The Luongo game will be big in Vancouver, and thats it.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

I heard there's gonna be no inter-conference games this season, which is lame because I was finally able to get tickets to Leafs-Canucks this year. Of course it's the year they cancel the game and never reschedule it. I was really looking forward to that. Of course they went and held onto my money all through Christmas too, when I could've really used it. Still angry...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

There will be at least 4-5 millions viewers in Canada alone and think how many Leafs/Canucks fans there are in the US. This game would get over 6 million viewers guaranteed and I'd be shocked if the cup finals rematch game this year got over 2 million.

So yeah, hate you a little less now buuut sure, you can beat it.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

Meh I'm not a fan of the OCD style scheduling where they try to match things up all evenly. Who cares if some match ups make the schedule a bit goofy they should focus more on having match ups people want to see. cut out 5 games of conference play so each team can go on a 5 game out of conference road trip. That way there could be a Van vs Tor game not to mention Montreal, Ottawa and Boston.

Edit - er I guess that should be cut 10 games since they need the home games also.

Edited by spliced, 09 January 2013 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:44 PM

In a regular season matchup Luongo would stand on his head shutting out the Canucks and making them look foolish....

Though if it was a playoff series game 7, ol' Lu would let in at least 4 goals in the 1st and get replaced by the back-up.

Choke-artist!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:21 PM

But is he the better option right now when the Sedins are in their prime?

Luongo is in his prime right now and will be for the next 3-5 years the Sedins are in theirs. That is our window. That's what we're concerned with. With every passing year, our window diminishes as the Sedins age.

Schneider sure looks better when we look going forward and think "Okay, in 5 years, Luongo retires, but in 5 years, Schneider's only 31 and in his prime." But anything past our window isn't our concern right now. And I'd say anything past this upcoming season isn't our concern - our concern is to win this season.

Luongo can get us there as well as Schneider can. Schneider brings a better return because he's younger and he's for the future - not for the win-now mentality any team taking Luongo has in mind.

Teams can build a contender around a 26-year-old Schneider just as we did a 26-year-old Luongo. We can take the pieces that can help us now and solidify the team in front of Luongo to win.

Remember that with Luongo, we were only one win away. Remember the decimated and injury-plagued team that was in front of Luongo in game 7. We had no chance from the start - even if it was Schneider in net.

What we need to do is build the best team in front of either goalie this season. I believe Luongo can get us there, and Schneider can get us better pieces. So I'd stick with Lu.


If Schneider isn't yet in his prime (which he isn't) and he is already this good, I don't know how you can trade him. I don't think it has anything to do with the Sedin's both goalies have shown a high level of play, either goalie can take us to the finals right now, but Luongo wants out, which is another big factor in this, Luongo wouldn't exactly be thrilled if we traded Schneider and he stayed here.

You also have to consider how much value Schneider brings to our team. Luongo has had his chances, and he has lost all the fans, he wants to move on when the opportunity arises and Schneider has proven he is just as good as an an up and coming goalie, when he is in his prime he will be absolutely dynamite, and we will need him to carry us in the future when our skates aren't as good.

Basicly here is how I see it, both are really good right now, Schneider is younger and is still developing, Luongo has a much worse contract, Luongo want's to move on, Schneider is going to be the better option going forward aswell as just as good an option right now.

The writing is on the wall I'm afraid, it is unfortunate the way he has been treated here but Lu is on his way out.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

There's a VERY real possibility that CS is a top 10 goalie after this year.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

Never say never, nucks leafs for the cup!! Well ok it will never happen this year.


And if Luongo on the Leafs wins the cup? All hell would break loose on cdc.

Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

 

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

I like how the thread title is worded to imply Luongo is a Canuck and Schneider is a Leaf.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:17 AM

As long as we trade Schneider and NOT Luongo, ill be fine with that!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:22 AM

duplicate post, please delete... terrible internet issues!

Edited by kmotamed, 10 January 2013 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:24 AM

duplicate post, please delete... terrible internet issues!

sorry

Edited by kmotamed, 10 January 2013 - 12:32 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

duplicate post, please delete... terrible internet issues!

i feel bad about this

Edited by kmotamed, 10 January 2013 - 12:32 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:07 AM

duplicate post, please delete... terrible internet issues!

i feel bad about this


I get it, duplicate post...jeez.


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I love your responses to each duplicate posts lol

Edited by Monteeun, 10 January 2013 - 01:08 AM.

Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

 

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

As long as we trade Schneider and NOT Luongo, ill be fine with that!


I guess your'e not going to be fine with it then.




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