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#1 bloodycanuckleheads

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

This has been bugging me for literally years now...

Why on Earth isn't AV pulling Lu for the shoot-outs? Luongo isn't just bad in shoot-outs - he's absolutely terrible. Just horrible. If the Canucks are in a tight game - and it goes to a shootout with Luongo in net - you can bet we lose. Virtually every single time. It's not even close. He can't stop shootout shooters. Like, at all. Ever.

So, even though Schneider would be cold - wouldn't we be better off pulling Lu after overtime - and bringing Schneider, just for the shootout?

We've been the best team in the NHL for years now - yet one of the worst at the shootout. Even with an ice-cold goalie, fresh off the bench, we've gotta have a better shot at winning than sticking with Luongo, don'tcha think?
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:41 PM by BloodyCanuckleheads

I could definitely see Grabner going. He seems to have done his best to play his way out the door (and Gillis seems to be the smartest GM we've ever had, so, put two and two together)...

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:43 PM

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We haven't scored a single goal in both shootouts Luongo has been in. Are you kidding?


Both games he;s played so far should have never even gotten to a shootout, we've blown two 2-0 leads and he's played great both games.

Edited by Primus099, 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I hope you're not serious.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

Dude he stopped 2 out of 3 tonight....
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

So you suppose Schneider would score in the shootout too?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

Oh my god...... Luongo was STELLAR all night, including the shootout.

Let Luongo take the shootout attempts. My 13 year old minor hockey playing brother could put in a better effort than the BS our shooters spat out tonight.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

Luongo stopped the first two shots our team can't score anything for him maybe av should put in someone else for a change
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

Canucks shooters are in the bottom half of the league for shootouts. Luongo lets in one shootout goal and lets all blame him. Some people are crazy.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

Luongo actually played well in this shootout. He has been terrible in the past.

Also, teams have tried putting backups in for the shootout just like this and there has never really been any positive results.

Shooters just as much as goaltending. Team is built on passing, no real danglers, resulting in sub-par SO results.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

He meant pull Luongo so he is available as a shooter....


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

And you risk injuring your ice cold goalie. IDIOT.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

We haven't scored a single goal in both shootouts Luongo has been in. Are you kidding?


Nuff said. :picard:
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

he was amazing lol carters goal was golden stfu

if anything AV is dumb for putting edler out there still
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

Firstly, you can't switch goalies before a shootout and secondly, wow, just wow...
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

It is extremely dangerous to throw a cold goalie into a shootout. Shootouts are murder on the groins and getting a goalie to come off the bench to face 3 breakaways is a great way to pull or tear a muscle.

Plus, the goalie who has been facing shooters all game is likely to have a better read of where they might be aiming in shootouts.

I know Luongo is not the best but, if talking specifically about tonight, the Carter move was unstoppable. It was fantastic.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:46 PM

So, Luongo is the scorer for all of our shootouts?

Luongo was brilliant in tonight's shootout. The goal he allowed on the blocker side is his typical weak spot, witnessed ever since the 2007-2008 season.

Check out Erik Christensen's shootout goal on December 2, 2007 against Vancouver.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:46 PM

Lu wasnt the problem it was terrible pp and running around, instead of hitting which canucks should start doing more of.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

Yeah, okay. the only reason we'd pull him is to make him one of the shooters, since our rotation's so stale.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

Hah.

Because having 0/3 of your shooters miss does not at all add to the reason as to why the Canucks are so bloody awful at the S/O. Luongo should be making all those saves, and scoring too!

Typical Canucks fan logic.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

What I think you mean to say is that the coach should take shootouts more seriously and prepare 9 guys to do shootouts, and go to the hottest hands among the guys that are on the shootout short list, also he should prep those guys with a shootout specialist coach.

Instead our coach doesn't like shootouts and has not ever spent serious time on the deciding mechanism for an extra point in a close matched game.

Edited by Primal Optimist, 28 January 2013 - 11:50 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:49 PM

You guys ALL seem to be forgetting that Luongo is a career LOSER in shootouts. And, not even close to 500. He's terrible. So, it doesn't matter if he stopped 2 of 3 tonight (the other goalie stopped 3 of 3). And, it doesn't matter if our shooters are sub-par (AV is picking guys like Edler to shoot in the top-3, not forwards who can score on breakaways). We are a top team, we are a top-scoring team, but we lose in shootouts - badly. And, it's (for the most part) because of the guy in net...
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:41 PM by BloodyCanuckleheads

I could definitely see Grabner going. He seems to have done his best to play his way out the door (and Gillis seems to be the smartest GM we've ever had, so, put two and two together)...

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:51 PM


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There we have it folks, we have literally blamed everyone for everything at this point


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:53 PM

Luongo saved 2/3 shots and put us in a position to win the shootout if our players could score. He had no chance on the carter shot because of how perfectly he executed that deke. You can't blame Luongo because of our players not scoring in the shootouts you derp.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:53 PM

You guys ALL seem to be forgetting that Luongo is a career LOSER in shootouts. And, not even close to 500. He's terrible. So, it doesn't matter if he stopped 2 of 3 tonight (the other goalie stopped 3 of 3). And, it doesn't matter if our shooters are sub-par (AV is picking guys like Edler to shoot in the top-3, not forwards who can score on breakaways). We are a top team, we are a top-scoring team, but we lose in shootouts - badly. And, it's (for the most part) because of the guy in net...


You're right, if it was Schneider, in either this game or the EDM game, we would have won the shootout 0-0.
Was there something about Schneider getting goal support in the SO while the team has given zero whole goals to Luongo to work with in the SO this year? I may be wrong on the math, but scoring zero goals in a shootout may not give you a good chance to win.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

Luongo was stellar tonight.
Our problem is coaching!
FIRE AV
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

Luongo was stellar tonight.
Our problem is coaching!
FIRE AV
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

Luongo saved 2/3 shots and put us in a position to win the shootout if our players could score.


No, it was 1 goal for LA - vs. no goals for us tonight. You could say Luongo put us in a position to TIE, but not to win.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:41 PM by BloodyCanuckleheads

I could definitely see Grabner going. He seems to have done his best to play his way out the door (and Gillis seems to be the smartest GM we've ever had, so, put two and two together)...

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:57 PM

@OP

Are u stupid? He made 2 good saves in the shootout an played a really good game!
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:57 PM

HAHAHAHA you people are absurd. Luongo was fine, no goalie stops that carter shot.

how about our shooters figure out how to hit the back of the god damned net? Or better yet we not play the trap the entire ???? 3rd period?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

I dont mind Lou in the shoot out, I would however like to see the coaching staff try
other playes on the team for the shoot out. Im sure most teams have Burrows and
Edler figured out by now.
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