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#121 ThaBestPlaceOnEarth

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

Who are these jerk protesters? Are they really people struggling with poverty? Remembering back to when I was living in Vancouver, most of these activist sorts are fairly well-off, they adopt these causes to have something interesting to do and some ideology to get behind, not because they're actually poor or struggling in life. People with real problems to deal with do not have time to go protest in front of some diner. They're upper-middle-class "leftists" with too much time on their hands trying to make some obscure political point.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

Who are these jerk protesters? Are they really people struggling with poverty? Remembering back to when I was living in Vancouver, most of these activist sorts are fairly well-off, they adopt these causes to have something interesting to do and some ideology to get behind, not because they're actually poor or struggling in life. People with real problems to deal with do not have time to go protest in front of some diner. They're upper-middle-class "leftists" with too much time on their hands trying to make some obscure political point.

Pretty much the usual rent-a-protest crowd led by Ivan Drury who is a spokesperson for the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood Council (DNC - http://dnchome.wordpress.com/ ) and the Carnegie Community Action Project (CCAP - http://ccapvancouver.wordpress.com/ ).

He describes himself thusly:


Ivan Drury@p0stcap

marxist who rejects historical determinism, community activist who believes in revolution, poet-academic who distrusts words


He first became prominent during the Occupy Vancouver protest spouting the usual Marxist rhetoric

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Here is a report of the Affordable Housing march during the Occupy Vancouver protest:

Nearly 150 demonstrators from Occupy Vancouver held a protest for affordable housing Saturday, marching from their art gallery encampment to the sites of a number of upscale developments they said are causing rising prices.

Chanting "Housing is a human right," demonstrators targeted condominium developers and real estate marketer Bob Rennie, and called for city intervention to restrict further development and support social housing.


"This housing march is important because we're one week away from an election," said Ivan Drury, with the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood Council. "The Downtown Eastside is the strongest reflection of the housing and homelessness crisis in this city that results from the out-of-control capitalist real estate market."


"Neither major parties have taken one progressive step forward. It is impossible for the market to solve problems the market produces."


Drury said he wants the city to buy ten sites in the downtown a year to replace substandard housing, to ban new condominium developments downtown until no one remains living on the streets or in shelters, and to amend bylaws to protect existing affordable housing.


"I am here to show my support and solidarity with the people of Vancouver who are looking for real options to housing solutions that don't just privilege the few," said Nicole Benson, a city council candidate with


Neighbourhoods for a Sustainable Vancouver (NSV), seemingly the only political party represented at the march, although several independent candidates were also in attendance. "People in the election talk a lot about housing issues, but I don't think they will provide real solutions that work."


"Over the last six years, we're not getting the solutions we need. Just putting in more housing doesn't guarantee affordable housing or social housing. It's not just about putting up more and more condos."

http://www.vancouver...ces-condominium

Many people have complained about his aggressive in your face tactics such as:

Penny Ballem

City Manager

City of Vancouver


June 12, 2012


REGARDING: The behaviour of Ivan Drury, Wendy Pederson and DNC


I write to you today to express my deep concerns about the behaviour of Ivan Drury, Wendy Pederson and the DNC and the CCAP program which runs out of the city run Carnegie Centre.


I am NOT a resident of that neighbourhood but have been in the past. As a matter of fact, I initiated the first new business on Hastings between Gore and Cambie 12 years ago …the Laundromat presently known as Blue Shell, then known as Clothes Encounters under the Vancouver Agreement and the Revitalization Program of the Downtown Eastside.


As a taxpayer in the city of Vancouver, I want to know why a taxpayer-funded building such as the Carnegie allows the illegal, invasive, coercive and downright aggressive behaviour of the above mentioned organization to continue to function in a city run building. Most of us in the City are not terribly happy with many of the decisions about “development” coming out of the city of Vancouver’s council. I live at Nanaimo and Kingsway, facing a humungous concrete wall of development with ABSOLUTELY NO community amenities attached to it. So does Mount Pleasant, so does Strathcona, so does the West End. You don’t see us all charging down to City Council and having temper tantrums, or harassing private developers in their homes as Ivan Drury did last night with a horde of residents from DTES do you? My area of Nanaimo and Kingsway has absolutely NO amenities at all … no day care, no seniors’ centre, no community centre, no libraries … no … nothing! The DTES has 3 community centres in 5 city blocks, at least 2 libraries, day cares, seniors centres, organic gardens ad nauseum, yet they STILL behave like spoiled brat children when they don’t get their way. I want to know why!


While I don’t think the city actually pays Wendy Pederson or Ivan Drury, the CCAP program and DNC function out of the Carnegie. There isn’t a community centre in the entire city which would allow this type of behaviour from programs it runs and controls, why does the Carnegie, why does the city allow this? Are you intimating that all of us across the city should run down to city council and disrupt the meetings and occupy developer’s private homes in order to influence decisions at City Council? If that’s the case, then I will start to organize city wide taxpayer revolts at Council so we can ALL have temper tantrums and behave illegally so we can get our way. Certainly, contacting councilors aren’t getting anyone anywhere … Andrea Reimer is too busy to meet with us.


So, Ms. Ballem, I’d surely like to know what we are going to do about this behavior and an explanation as to why it is tolerated and supported by the City. If I don’t know within one week from this communication, I guess I will have to start organizing taxpayers from all over the city to ask the same questions.


I would like an opportunity to speak with you personally about this issue … my phone # is 778-xxx-xxxx, my email is xxxxxxx@shaw.ca. Please contact me as soon as possible about this issue ‘cause I sure as heck aren’t going to put up with it much longer.


Thank you

Ruth meta

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Kingsway and Nanaimo


Drury has harassed people at their private residences and has been tossed out of consultation and city council meetings for being disruptive.

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Ivan Drury, with the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood Council (DNC), being removed from the city development permit board hearing in April 2012 during the city's public review of the Sequel 138 condominium development near Hastings and Main Street.

But the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood Council (DNC), which organized the demonstration against the proposal, said the community opposes condominiums in the area because they will contribute to gentrification -- a process in which costs of living rise as urban areas transitions from renters to owners, displacing poorer residents.


“It is clearly opposed by the community,” said Ivan Drury, representing the DNC. “What they call 'clean up,' we call displacement.


“A lot of the most marginalized people in the community live on the 100 block – the Washington, Sunrise, the Balmoral and Regent Hotels. These are hotels for people who don't belong or fit in anywhere in the city to live. These are places where the most marginalized people in society – people who are multiply oppressed and discriminated against – go to be accepted and be at home.”

http://www.vancouver...-condo-planning

Drury led a tent city camp out outside the West Vancouver home of developer Steven Lippman who was purchasing two derelict properties in the DTES with the support of city council and the BC government.

About a dozen protesters rallied in front of the West Vancouver home of the man bidding on two Downtown Eastside hotels, saying he plans to buy the buildings and hike rents.


The Downtown Eastside activists called it a family-friendly protest, setting up a mini tent city in the neighbourhood.


They say Steven Lippman's company is bidding on the Wonder and Palace hotels — two derelict hotels in the Downtown Eastside — but fear he will raise the rents if his bids are successful.


"There are no solutions that the province, the city or the feds are offering in order to replace these hotel rooms, and so we demand that Steven Lippman get out of the Downtown Eastside and that he not continue to make his fortune off the backs of the lowest income people in the city or the most vulnerable to homelessness," said protester Ivan Drury.


The buildings are both in receivership and a court could determine on Wednesday who will take ownership.


"So we need the city to step in and buy these two buildings or the province to step in buy these two buildings and protect them as low-income housing," Drury said.



But Geoffrey Howes, a spokesperson for Lippman's company, said they clean up rat and bed bug infested properties.


"We essentially clean them up," he said. "Some of the things that I've seen — I am embarrassed for people like Ivan to defend people's ability to live that way."


Howes said the company raises rents by only a fraction.


"There's an adjustment — and it truly is a minor adjustment — in the rents, probably from $350 or $375 into the low $400 range, but they're clean, the city loves us."


Meanwhile, housing minister Rich Coleman says he won't be taking direction from the protesters, saying the group has opposed every housing initiative the government has taken.


"They don't support anything we've done and I wouldn't take any advice from them," he said.


"If we were going to look at any properties, which we could be doing at any given time, that would be done by BC Housing in confidence as they look at the real estate market and any needs that we have in any particular area of the community."


The minister won't say if he supports the purchase of the two hotels, saying any negotiations would be private.


The protesters plan to camp out until the court makes a decision on the sale of the properties.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...er-protest.html

Ivan Drury is a publicly funded pest and gadfly masquerading as a "community activist" while proclaiming himself a Marxist revolutionary.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:55 AM

Who are these jerk protesters?


I hope this post answers your question:

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 01:43 PM

Time and time again, it has been shown that the traditional form of protests (standing outside an establishment and yelling, or physically occupying a space like Occupy Vancouver) does not work - there's no effect from doing so other than creating a zone of hostility between the general public and the protesters.

Of course, this baffles me - why then, if this form of protest has failed, are people still doing it?


At one time a "protest" was actually a necessary part of getting your voice heard. It meant standing up against a force that was brutally trying to supress you. Now, we are fortunate enough to live in a society where the government doesn't do that. We also have the internet to make ourselves heard. 99% of protests these days (I'm referring to the ones in Canada) aren't about exercising your rights but taking away someone else's.

Smashing someone's windows is not an exercise of freedom of speech.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:02 PM

So long as we're protesting things, I wanna protest the sale of Freybe delicious cured meats to the guys who own the vastly inferior McSweeney's, they better not mess with that Damn Hot Pepperoni, it's by far my favourite.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

I wonder how much support do these anti-gentrification protesters and hooligans get from greedy investment property owners who don't want the value of their properties undercut by increased condo construction and sales.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:11 PM

I wonder how much support do these anti-gentrification protesters and hooligans get from greedy investment property owners who don't want the value of their properties undercut by increased condo construction and sales.


Pretty sure that would be none.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

At one time a "protest" was actually a necessary part of getting your voice heard. It meant standing up against a force that was brutally trying to supress you. Now, we are fortunate enough to live in a society where the government doesn't do that. We also have the internet to make ourselves heard. 99% of protests these days (I'm referring to the ones in Canada) aren't about exercising your rights but taking away someone else's.

Smashing someone's windows is not an exercise of freedom of speech.


It really undermines the whole idea of protesting if you aren't commited to the cause as much as you are commited to stirring up.... problems. :)

It puts a black mark on "protesting" yet, that is a very effective tool if done correctly. Much more effective if the process isn't abused.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

Pretty sure that would be none.


You'd be surprised at the kinds of things that go on behinds the scenes in this town.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

Pretty much the usual rent-a-protest crowd led by Ivan Drury who is a spokesperson for the Downtown Eastside Neighbourhood Council (DNC - http://dnchome.wordpress.com/ ) and the Carnegie Community Action Project (CCAP - http://ccapvancouver.wordpress.com/ ).

He describes himself thusly:


Ivan Drury@p0stcap

marxist who rejects historical determinism, community activist who believes in revolution, poet-academic who distrusts words


He first became prominent during the Occupy Vancouver protest spouting the usual Marxist rhetoric

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Ivan Drury is a publicly funded pest and gadfly masquerading as a "community activist" while proclaiming himself a Marxist revolutionary.


Who ever elected this jackass to government and what right does he think those who leech off the system have over those who work and contribute into it? Does the democratic will of the people and the taxpayers' right to a say in how their money is spent mean anything to him?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:59 AM

You'd be surprised at the kinds of things that go on behinds the scenes in this town.


Need we be reminded that it's not only the socialists that want suppression of the free market. Some of the dirtiest, sleaziest and corruptest capitalists do too, but they attain it through more underhanded means.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

Who ever elected this jackass to government and what right does he think those who leech off the system have over those who work and contribute into it? Does the democratic will of the people and the taxpayers' right to a say in how their money is spent mean anything to him?

Ivan Drury has not been elected to office. He lives off government grants and funding.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

Need we be reminded that it's not only the socialists that want suppression of the free market. Some of the dirtiest, sleaziest and corruptest capitalists do too, but they attain it through more underhanded means.

Reputable source relating to Vancouver?
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:50 AM

Reputable source relating to Vancouver?


How about BC government. Get the flood started...

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

What ever happened to our old friend David Cunningham, by the way? Why isn't he in on this?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

Could it be? The VPD is finally stepping in and enforcing the law.



Vancouver police plan to arrest at least one of the city’s serial anti-gentrification protesters


It has been two months since gaggles of anti-gentrification protesters first began turning up outside an upscale Vancouver restaurant, shining flashlights into diners’ eyes, climbing on windowsills and blocking the entrance. Now, Vancouver Police announced that they intend to start making at least one arrest.


“We are planning an arrest shortly, and that’s in regards to someone that we believe has crossed the line in regards to civil disobedience,” Cst. Brian Montague, spokesman for the Vancouver Police, said Thursday.


Police have declined to discuss specifics, but in recent weeks the owners of the restaurant, Pidgin, have reported seeing elderly couples and stroller-pushing parents having to pass through a gauntlet of screaming protesters while trying to enter the restaurant’s front doors.


“There’s a key number of people that we feel require our attention, and we fell that are crossing the line into illegal behaviour … that puts the public at risk,” said Cst. Montague.


This week, two or three of those “key people” were handed a one-page “criminal conduct warning” laying out the mischief section of the Criminal Code and warning protesters to refrain from shouting, screaming, swearing or “physically blocking” patrons from entering the eatery.


The idea is not to crack down on the protest, says Cst. Montague, but rather to lay out the ground rules.


“They have no excuse to say, ‘I was unaware that what I was doing is illegal,’” he said.


Newly opened on Vancouver’s notorious Downtown Eastside, Pidgin offers up a high-end assortment of “small plates” appetizers and $10 cocktails — all shielded behind partially-frosted windows that the staff maintain is “bulletproof.”


Named after Pigeon Park, an adjacent municipal sitting area frequented by drinkers, the restaurant’s location sat vacant for decades before it was renovated as part of an attached condo development.


Nevertheless, protesters singled it out as the harbinger of an unstoppable tide of gentrification that they claim is designed to push poor people out of a neighborhood well known for its rampant drugs, alcohol and sex-trade, as well as poverty.


In coordinated protests held almost since Pidgin’s opening day, a small group of regulars have turned up bearing signs carrying a number of variations on the phrases “Eat the Rich” or “Be Part of the Solution; Don’t Go In.”


The protests, in turn, inspired a minor anti-gentrification crime wave that targeted shops and businesses across East Vancouver. In mid-March, unidentified vandals kicked out the windows of a recently-opened East Vancouver pizzeria.


That same week, balaclava-ed “anarchist” thieves stole the sidewalk sign for the Downtown Eastside business Save on Meats.


The Carnegie Community Action Project (CCAP), one of the organizers of the Pidgin protests, have remained relatively quiet about the attacks, but called it a natural symptom of a frustrated underclass.


In the wake of the warning letters from police this week, CCAP spokesman Ivan Drury made references to “state terror” on his Twitter feed.


“If the protesters really want to have some lasting effect on the neighbourhood, they would walk 10 metres down the road from us and picket the drug dealers on the corner,” Pidgin owner Brandon Grossutti told Postmedia this week. “Why don’t we think about helping those that are most vulnerable in the neighbourhood through that?”


Although persistent, the protests do not appear to have had a negative effect on sales at Pidgin. In fact, they may only have prompted waves of new business from frustrated locals looking to repudiate the shouting mob.


“Business is great,” Mr. Grossutti told Postmedia this week.


Vancouver’s Pivot Legal Society issued a legal opinion objecting to the police’s inclusion of screaming and swearing in their warning letters.


“Disruptions of the public peace during an ongoing protest … should not amount to a breach … of the Criminal Code,” it read.


On Wednesday, the City of Vancouver announced that homeless numbers were at a new low, after a recent homeless count found 273 people sleeping “rough” in the city. That represents an 11% decrease from 2012 and a 66% decrease from 2008.


http://news.national...tion-protester/

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:33 PM

A protester is facing charges for allegedly trying to chain Pidgin restaurant’s doors and a waarant has been issued for her arrest.


Vancouver Police are looking for public help to find a local woman in connection to an incident at Pidgin restaurant in the Downtown Eastside.


The restaurant across from Pigeon Park on Carrall and West Hastings Street has been at the centre of ongoing protests by anti-poverty activists who are fighting changes in the community.


On Friday, police said their investigation into a March 15 incident at the restaurant has led to a warrant for the arrest of a Vancouver woman who is alleged to have attempted to chain and lock the front doors in the early morning hours while staff were still working inside.


Robyn Claire Pickell, 25, is facing mischief charges in relation to the incident.


Last month, police announced that they would issue warning letters to protesters over some of the actions and spelled out what crosses the line from protest to criminal behaviour, including that “obstruction or interference with the use of property includes, but is not limited to, the following behaviour: shouting, screaming or swearing at anyone that disrupts public peace or physically blocking any person from freely entering, leaving or staying at any public place.”


VPD Const. Brian Montague said police have so far issued one warning letter to a protester; Pickell will also get a letter.


“Vancouver Police facilitate hundreds of lawful demonstrations every year guided by the VPD’s public demonstration policy,” VPD said in a news release.


“When public safety is put at risk and the actions become unlawful, officers will enforce the law.”


Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Robyn Pickell is asked to contact their local police or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Anti+gentrification+protester+facing+charges+allegedly+trying+chain+Pidgin+restaurant+doors/8334582/story.html#ixzz2SH5uxnqq


And who is Robin Pickell you ask???

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Robin Pickell attends Emily Carr and is in the general and visual arts program, before this she was in Langara’s fine arts program. During this time she applied for Emily Carr on a limb, and decided that it would be a good school to attend. However, she only came to this conclusion after enjoying experiences while travelling around South East Asia and Australia with her younger sister.


Robin grew up in the Kerisdale Dunbar area with her family. She has a tight knit family and sees her parents as people who have great influence on her. When her mother took up meditation a few years ago it changed Robin’s life. Her father has influenced Robin’s musical appreciation.


Outside of her family and she has two close friends who she feels a close connection to, even when they are not in Vancouver.


Something important to Robin is animal rights. She has an appreciation for every species, and sees humans as having a place in a greater ecosystem. A big reason for this is that she had a dog growing up, which she could tell had a personality and untainted spirit. Therefore, she now belongs to an animal rights group in Vancouver.

http://www.sfu.ca/di...dents_1102.html


And she is a "freegan" (aka dumpster diver):

In communities across the continent you may find people going through the garbage. They call themselves “freegans” – the word compounded from “free” and “vegan”- and they gather edible food from the garbage bins of grocery stores or food stands that would otherwise have been thrown away. Freegans aim to spend little or no money purchasing food and other goods, not through financial need but to try to address issues of over-consumption and excess.

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Mya Wollf ®, 28, and Robin Pickell, 23, sort through a dumpster for edible food in an alley behind Commercial Drive in Vancouver, British Columbia April 10, 2012.

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May Wollf, (L), 28, a practising 'freegan', climbs into a dumpster while Robin Pickell tears open a garbage bag in an alley behind Commercial Drive in Vancouver, British Columbia

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May Wollf © and Robin Pickell ®, practising 'freegans', sort through food they plucked out of a dumpster behind an organic grocery store in Coquitlam, British Columbia.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:48 PM

Where's Gregor in the midst of all this? As I recall, Pidgin is built on Carrall St, which has a bike lane. Surely, he would be the first to step in and say enough.

But of course, that is not the case, for you see, his voting constituents are exactly the same ilk that mindlessly hang outside the doors of Pidgin screaming obscenities at its clientèle and management (you know...the ones that are trying to bring back a sense of life into this drug-torn neighbourhood)


Mayor Robertson: Soon There Will Be Blood

Last night in Gastown callers to 911 were told by police operators to stay inside and lock their windows and doors. Gastowners watched as a large group of non-local protestors and anarchists carrying huge gas torches chanted “class war”, “rich scum beware” and “burn the condos” while marching through our streets with their faces covered. Police barricaded the front door of Pidgin while an angry mob stopped and chanted outside.


It is clear to the majority of Gastowners a complete leadership vacuum is to blame for this situation. We no longer find any of this the least bid amusing. These are not social justice protests. These are direct threats on our well being and property.


The Gazette reported in our “Carnegie Gate” investigations that the Pidgin protests are led and organized by the Carnegie Community Action Project (CCAP), Ivan Drury, Wendy Pedersen and Jean Swanson. In response Ivan Drury resigned from the CCAP as an “employee”. Yet Vancity and The Vancouver Foundation continue their support of the CCAP and The Carnegie Community Centre Association Board of Directors.


As one extremely frightened pregnant woman who witnessed the protestors marching by her door last night told The Gazette: “We’ve have had enough of this crap! Lit torches? Faces covered?”


So The Gazette asks: where is our Mayor?


Where are our leaders?


Gastown needs you now. Please cease funding the CCAP immediately, audit the Carnegie Community Centre Association and speak out forcefully against those who are threatening our way of life, fracturing our community, and attempting to kill small businesses here. The taxpayers of Gastown demand action now.


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