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#61 BuretoMogilny

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:50 AM

Am I the only one who thought he wasn't that bad last game?

He made a number of key saves that could have sunk us, he has been making up for the poor defense more than the defense has been making up for him.


Luongo fans think that people who support and want Schnieder as the number 1 going forward means they HATE Lou.

As a result, if Schnieder lets in more than 2, even if his defense is atrocious, which anyone who knows hockey can attest its been all year pretty much , they jump on him in some sort of vengeful act against these so called Lou haters.

It makes them feel good in their teenage angst.

Schnieder was the only reason we were in that game. Our defense is a mess. Hansen even said it in his interview, if we keep turning over the puck in our own end we're not going to win. That's not goaltending, that's team defense.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:03 AM

One dumb post won't change the irrefutable fact Luongo's better than Schneider. :)


11/12 Season
Luongo 31-14-8 / .919 S% / 2.41 gaa
Scheider 20-8-1 / .937 S% / 1.96 gaa

Playoffs
Luongo 0-2-0 / .891 S% /3.59 gaa
Scheider 1-2-1 / .960 S% / 1.31 gaa


Refuted. :shock:
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#63 BuretoMogilny

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:16 AM

You are seriously one of the most idiotic trolls i have seen yet on this forum


why is that trolling, other than his opinion on the bottom he is bringing out facts of why the media, fans, and most of the nhl question Lou's ability to play consistently in the playoffs.

his points/facts are certainly the core of the whole debate. Just because you prefer lou doesn't mean he's trolling
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:25 AM

I'm thinking of starting a Daniel vs Henrik thread.

Did you see Henrik last night? He sucks, Daniel is so much better. He had 4.3 shots compared to Henrik's 1.3. We should trade that bum because Daniel has always been better and Henrik melts in the playoffs. Daniel can score but Hank can't, DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNY, waaaaaaa, I wet my pants.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

I'm thinking of starting a Daniel vs Henrik thread.

Did you see Henrik last night? He sucks, Daniel is so much better. He had 4.3 shots compared to Henrik's 1.3. We should trade that bum because Daniel has always been better and Henrik melts in the playoffs. Daniel can score but Hank can't, DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNY, waaaaaaa, I wet my pants.


I've always liked the way hank plays, I think he's the better twin. Did you see him when Danny went down? We should trade Danny for a bag of pucks.

LOL
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:43 AM

Cory Schneider:
GP: 14
W: 6
L: 5
OTL: 3
GA: 36
Sv %: .910
GAA: 2.63

Roberto Luongo:
GP: 10
W: 5
L: 2
OTL: 3
GA: 24
Sv %: .912
GAA: 2.19

Cory 5chneider is washed up!!!!!!!!

another 18 yr old visionary !!!
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:46 AM

One dumb post won't change the irrefutable fact Luongo's better than Schneider. :)

in your mind..but not in reality
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

Digging the Vancouver goalie graveyard!



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

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Ro8erto 7uongo (btw, do you even know what the numbers for letters mean? 7 against Chicago, 8 against Boston) has faced far less shots per game than Schneider and faced far weaker teams and Schneider is outperforming him immensely, as shown by those stats.

7uongo is trying to innovate the game by creating a new goaltending style, where you bellyflop whenever the puck moves laterally like a lazy fat frack and let in soft goals every 5 shots.

7uongo is gone this summer, can't wait for the tears from the dick riders. Good riddance, one good playoffs in '07 doesn't make up for 5 years of choking.


Yes, I know what it means, clearly you don't know what the 5 in 5chneider means (here's a hint: Look at Cory's FIRST game as a starter). I also used that satirically, in an obviously failed attempt to show you how dumb you sound.

Your so-called ironic post does nothing but tell the rest of CDC that you're a blatant Luongo hater, as seen through your adamant refusal to accept any of his accomplishments (hating on his 10-11 playoff meltdowns is fine, but denying the massive role he played in getting to the finals is ridiculous).

How many times has Schneider won us a game this season so far, as a starter? Maybe 1, 2? Luongo has done it dozens of times, already doing so in the handful of games he's played this season. So far, so not good for CS35. He has not been playing anywhere close to what he should be as a starter. At this point giving up Luongo will put us in a bad situation unless Schneider actually plays like he should, instead of just talking about it.
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There we have it folks, we have literally blamed everyone for everything at this point


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:05 PM

Some of these fans make me sick. Baggins, I'm appalled at what you're saying about the best goalie this city ever saw.

Get your head out of your a$$ and face the facts. At the end of the day, after all the chokes and godlike games, Luongo is the best goaltender in the history of the Vancouver Canucks. Yet, the management (and the fans) treat him like a scrub goalie who is supposedly a failure and a choker because he couldn't score 3+ goals a game on top of what he did to win the cup.

Sure, Schneider is showing promise. But if you decide to unceremoniously run out a star player like Lu in favor of a goalie who has POTENTIAL to be a star player, well, I'm out. This fanbase is seriously making me consider to stop watching Vancouver hockey. I'm out of here.
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There we have it folks, we have literally blamed everyone for everything at this point


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:08 PM

another 18 yr old visionary !!!


(Taps irony meter)
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:14 PM

Some of these fans make me sick. Baggins, I'm appalled at what you're saying about the best goalie this city ever saw.

Get your head out of your a$$ and face the facts. At the end of the day, after all the chokes and godlike games, Luongo is the best goaltender in the history of the Vancouver Canucks. Yet, the management (and the fans) treat him like a scrub goalie who is supposedly a failure and a choker because he couldn't score 3+ goals a game on top of what he did to win the cup.

Sure, Schneider is showing promise. But if you decide to unceremoniously run out a star player like Lu in favor of a goalie who has POTENTIAL to be a star player, well, I'm out. This fanbase is seriously making me consider to stop watching Vancouver hockey. I'm out of here.


Wow.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

Wow.

Yeah, sounds like a good time to unwind a bit.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:26 PM

in your mind..but not in reality

That has to be the funniest unintentional humor I've seen today. Hmm, maybe I should take a little break from the board too... 8l
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:27 PM

I'm thinking of starting a Daniel vs Henrik thread.

Did you see Henrik last night? He sucks, Daniel is so much better. He had 4.3 shots compared to Henrik's 1.3. We should trade that bum because Daniel has always been better and Henrik melts in the playoffs. Daniel can score but Hank can't, DANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNY, waaaaaaa, I wet my pants.

Classic!
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

*Luongo has better numbers than Schneider while including the Detroit game.

Jus sayin'...


If you averaged out Luongo's shots vs goals against to be the same as Schnieders....Luongo would have let in 1 less goal.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:05 PM

To everyone who thought there was room in Vancouver for two #1 goalies to coexist in harmony, there isn't.
Neither the fans nor the goalies in question seem to like this situation. It's stupid and in my opinion maybe becoming cancerous, which also might be a partial explanation as to why the product on the ice is now suffering.

Gillis? Just move one of them and get it over with. Your sitting on your hands style of management has become detrimental.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:09 PM

Why are some desperate for us to throw Cory under the bus? You should be happy we are supporting a goalie even if he struggles.
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I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:15 PM

Awwwwww, poor baby, sick and tired of people defending Cory. You should start a facebook page or something, that will teach em...
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

Luongo fans think that people who support and want Schnieder as the number 1 going forward means they HATE Lou.

As a result, if Schnieder lets in more than 2, even if his defense is atrocious, which anyone who knows hockey can attest its been all year pretty much , they jump on him in some sort of vengeful act against these so called Lou haters.

It makes them feel good in their teenage angst.

Schnieder was the only reason we were in that game. Our defense is a mess. Hansen even said it in his interview, if we keep turning over the puck in our own end we're not going to win. That's not goaltending, that's team defense.


Exactly +1.

Perfect post.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

Luongo's not struggling.


If you consider Schneiders play as struggling, then yes Luongo is most definetly struggling.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:48 PM

I'm tired of people defending Luongo.
Cory hasn't been awesome this year, but he's only played 14 games and the Luongo Fan Club is chasing after him with torches and pitchforks.
Luongo was given so much more slack before anyone gave up on him, so very much more, but Cory gets 14 regular season games and he's a write off?
Personally I'll give Cory the same benefit I gave Luongo before I gave up on him. 5 full seasons, 4 playoff appearances, 4 series implosions.


Exactly, I'm very tired of it aswell.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

Some of these fans make me sick. Baggins, I'm appalled at what you're saying about the best goalie this city ever saw.

Get your head out of your a$$ and face the facts. At the end of the day, after all the chokes and godlike games, Luongo is the best goaltender in the history of the Vancouver Canucks. Yet, the management (and the fans) treat him like a scrub goalie who is supposedly a failure and a choker because he couldn't score 3+ goals a game on top of what he did to win the cup.

Sure, Schneider is showing promise. But if you decide to unceremoniously run out a star player like Lu in favor of a goalie who has POTENTIAL to be a star player, well, I'm out. This fanbase is seriously making me consider to stop watching Vancouver hockey. I'm out of here.


You're appalled I posted last seasons stats? Boo freakin' hoo. Those stats are the facts.

Where have I treated Lou like a scrub goalie? I simply believe Schneider to be the better goalie. Don't like it, go ahead and get out. Both won't be here come next season. We won't miss you when you're a fan of Lou's new team.

Btw, nobody expected Lou to score. We only expected him to stop the puck. When you put your team down four or more in the playoffs you won't win many games even if everybody is completely healthy. Also, I've said many times that I blame injuries more than anything for the finals loss. So get over self righteous self.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:06 AM

When Luongo plays and the Canucks lose, it's Luongos fault.

When Schneider plays and Canucks lose, it's the defense and offensives fault.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:11 AM

When Luongo plays and the Canucks lose, it's Luongos fault.

When Schneider plays and Canucks lose, it's the defense and offensives fault.


I don't know... I'm pretty sure that it's Edler's fault
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:16 AM

This entire team has sucked so far except for a few players:

Bieksa - brilliant goal scoring and surprisingly sound defensively, plus some amazing defensive play.
The Sedins - still scoring at a point-per-game and leading this team
Luongo - far better than Schneider, don't even bother arguing this
Mason Raymond - not consistently great, but he's exceeded expectations

That's the Vancouver Canucks core leadership players and right now they're the only ones playing well. We have a few star players who are underperforming and bringing this team down, namely:

Alex Edler - probably one of if not the worst Canuck to date
Dan Hamhuis - been brutal in his own zone, far from a defensive stalwart, but is chipping in assists
Booth - lots of great physical play and more chances than anyone else, but no finish
Schneider - the biggest disappointment so far. People's expectations were always too high for him, and he has not handled the pressure of playing as a starting goalie well at all. Luongo is playing behind the same defence and has a GAA better than Schneider by more than half a goal. Schneider clearly isn't ready for a starting role, and meanwhile Luongo is just hitting his prime.

Quite simply - Luongo gives the Canucks a FAR better chance to win games right now. I'm sure Schneider will end up being a star goalie in this league, but in 2013 he is definately not one of them. The problem is, this team doesn't have 2 or 3 years to wait for him to develop into that star - we need a star goalie now, and that man is Roberto Luongo.

It still baffles me that people think Cory is our starter when all he's done is consistently let in bad goals all season, especially at bad times. Meanwhile Luongo throws 1 bad game and plays clutch hockey in every single other game with huge timely saves when it matters most. In terms of playoff hockey, guess which type of goalie will win us more games - the consistently bad goalie or a goalie that blows the occasional game big time but is stellar in every other game? A loss is a loss in the playoffs, Luongo knows how to bounce back better than anyone else on this team and he's the reason we should stick with him, not Schneider. The stats don't lie.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:19 AM

God the irony is incredible here, roberto has the most support, and most defenders, and most insane outspoken loyal fans i have ever seen. You say one bad word you have legions of people jumping down your throat.

And your tired of corys fans defending him?

Cory has been taking a beating, bashed, and blamed by lou's fanbase the minute he started playing well last year. He should be so lucky to have the luxury like roberto has who was given numerous chances and post season meltdowns to prove his worth, fans cant even give cory some regular season games without complaining about him. If we gave schneider the same amount of opportunities roberto had it would be a god send.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:48 AM

Are the owners and CDC ok with giving CS a few regular season to prove himself even at the cost of missing the playoff each year? Luongo was already a proven player before he came to Vancouver and he's proven over and over again he can at the very least carry the team into the playoff.. in the playoff he's been godly at times and mediocre at others.. CS meanwhile haven't proven he can at the very least carry the team into the playoff his play this year is average at best and i don't think gillis or av can afford to play him every night and hope they can get into the playoff with CS. CS really only had that game against chicago where he stole us a point.. and it's not even the team not showing up.. Vancouver played well say maybe the defense.. but CS haven't really had a game where he stole us a game by standing on his heard when the ENTIRE TEAM is playing like crap. as a matter of fact i don't recall CS stealing a game for the canucks when they are playing absolutely abysmal. he might have played great and kept us in the game. but he didn't steal us a win out of it. i'm interested to know.. how many games have CS won where the score is 1-0 2-0 with and empty net or even 2-1 with him absolutely standing on his head? how many games have CS won where the canucks have scored 2 goals or less?
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:04 AM

Both goalies have been okay. Not amazing. But pretty good. Luongo's been less rattled.
They haven't stolen many games, but they've bailed out and kept the team in alot of games.

To be fair, Lundqvist/Rinne/Price etc.... would also look pretty garbage, the way this D has been.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:14 AM

When Luongo plays and the Canucks lose, it's Luongos fault.

When Schneider plays and Canucks lose, it's the defense and offensives fault.

There's a grain of truth to this....I suppose it has to do with the length of time that Louie's been around. We've seen far more bad games from him than we have Schneider.

What I don't understand is this idea that you're either a Luongo or a Schneider "hater". Personally, I like them both and I wouldn't have a problem with keeping or moving either of them.

IMO, Schneider is the better technical goaltender, while Luongo has the better reflexes and covers more of the net, due to his size. (For example, I believe that Stoll's OT winner last year hits Lou in the shoulder and stays out) If I had a choice, I'd keep Schneider, since he is younger and cheaper, and I think his game will only get better.

However, if Gillis were able to swing a deal for Schneider that makes the team significantly better, either now, or a few years down the road, I'd be fine with keeping Louie.
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