Canucksin2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 exactly. Ho-sang is an excellent play maker. Future star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kreuzberg Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Well here's the thing though... Rychel has back to back 40 goal seasons. Ho-sang has only been a Spitfire for 1 season. Yes, I really like Ho-Sang, but how can he be responsible for his first 40 goal season. The guy clearly can score goals, i think that he's been discounted a little too easily here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I don't think he is being discounted, but a balanced view needs to be brought to the table. HoSang is not the main contributor of Rychel's play, its Khokhlachev. FWIW, what TruCanuck is saying, is very similar to what i've heard from 4-5 Spitfire STHs. I've read scouting reports where some writers are touting Rychel as a physical, power forward who hustles his ass off and battles for the puck. That is simply not an accurate description of his style of game. He can sometimes play the body, but he does so with no consistency or with any real edge. He does not hustle, does not skate enough away from the puck, does not backcheck, just coasts back to his zone. One thing, i would disagree with, is that he does have an NHL calibre shot. Its probably the only attractive things about him, in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksin2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Khoklachev only played 29 games for Windsor this year though... so now its him who was always setting up Rychel?? Brady Vail played a lot of Centre on that line this year (before Khok) came back from Russia. He was a PPG player most of the year, and then fell off dramatically when taken off the line (he was also playing some defence when injuries decimated the Spits blueline). But the point is that Rychel elevated Vail's game too. No offence to Khok and to Ho-Sang, they are both great prospects... but so is Rychel... he was abile to score without them as well as with them. Yes his PPG was higher with Khok than with Vail, but that is natural any time you give a goal scorer a more talented centre, doesn't mean he's totally reliant on him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kreuzberg Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Any thoughts on/assessments of the relative merits of Hartman and Dickenson DJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Bjorkstrand (the guy who is from same hometown as Nicklas Jensen) may see his stock rising as he is having a good run with Portland right now. Leading all rookies in playoff scoring with 7G, 11A, 18P in 20 GP. Will get a lot of exposure if they make it to Memorial Cup. He's got a good shot, not sure about complete game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Right lets follow up the Roy signing and the Schroeder selection with a 5-foot-11 and 164 pounds Dane. Remember currently the NHL = Big and Bruising So our prime target should be Oliver Bjorkstad, lets all think a minute before we put our thoughts out there. He MAY enjoy success and he may NOT enjoy success if it's 50-50 it's not good enough, fuzzy thinking . This year we're going to likely draft at out highest for a few years MAKE IT COUNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Right lets follow up the Roy signing and the Schroeder selection with a 5-foot-11 and 164 pounds Dane. Remember currently the NHL = Big and Bruising So our prime target should be Oliver Bjorkstad, lets all think a minute before we put our thoughts out there. He MAY enjoy success and he may NOT enjoy success if it's 50-50 it's not good enough, fuzzy thinking . This year we're going to likely draft at out highest for a few years MAKE IT COUNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelon Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Right lets follow up the Roy signing and the Schroeder selection with a 5-foot-11 and 164 pounds Dane. Remember currently the NHL = Big and Bruising So our prime target should be Oliver Bjorkstad, lets all think a minute before we put our thoughts out there. He MAY enjoy success and he may NOT enjoy success if it's 50-50 it's not good enough, fuzzy thinking . This year we're going to likely draft at out highest for a few years MAKE IT COUNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Have you not looked at who won the Art Ross this year. St. Louis is the same size at Schroeder;but he needs to work really hard to become even comparable as St. Louis though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This is worth a look http://thecanuckway.com/2013/05/10/the-vancouver-canucks-drafting-history-the-modern-era-2000-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davinci Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 It'd be interesting to see if the Canucks could ship Schneider away for a 1st + a prospect. Then draft Fucale and go forward with Luongo, Fucale, Lack, and Cannata. Seems to bad they burnt the Luongo bridge with Lack in the wings behind Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davinci Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 What I love the most about this draft is how unpredictable it seems to be. Just looking over mock drafts it seems the top 5 are fairly certain with some slight variation. But after that it's hard to say. I can see teams really going off the board in this draft. Think Michael Grabner pick in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Here's the draft-eligible prospects we may get a chance to watch closely at the upcoming Memorial Cup starting May 17, (NHL Central Scouting Final N.A. Rank in brackets): HALIFAX C - Nathan MacKinnon (2) LW - Jonathan Drouin (3) G - Zachary Fucale (G - 1) D - Matthew Murphy (114) D - Mackenzie Weegar (164) PORTLAND D - Seth Jones (1) C - Nicolas Petan (33) LW - Oliver Bjorkstrand (36) G - Brendan Burke (G-13) SASKATOON Pretty much no-one. And then either London or Barrie, depending on who wins tomorrow. LONDON C - Bo Horvat (15) C - Max Domi (19) D - Nikita Zadorov (22) LW - Remi Elie (71) D - Dakota Mermis (95) C - Kyle Platzer (110) D - Miles Liberati (150) G - Jake Patterson (G-20) BARRIE C - Erik Bradford (145) C - Zach Hall (158) D - Michael Webster (223) G - Alex Fotinos (G-38) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Well, we can thank the Red Wings for eliminating Anaheim, as we just moved up another spot in the draft. 30, 29, 28, 27 are all cup and conf. finalists. Anaheim is now slotted in at 26, Montreal at 25, and us at 24. If CHI and PIT get eliminated before round 3, we move down to 22. Can't go any lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Rychel, Hartman, Fucale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Here's the draft-eligible prospects we may get a chance to watch closely at the upcoming Memorial Cup starting May 17, (NHL Central Scouting Final N.A. Rank in brackets): HALIFAX C - Nathan MacKinnon (2) LW - Jonathan Drouin (3) G - Zachary Fucale (G - 1) D - Matthew Murphy (114) D - Mackenzie Weegar (164) PORTLAND D - Seth Jones (1) C - Nicolas Petan (33) LW - Oliver Bjorkstrand (36) G - Brendan Burke (G-13) SASKATOON Pretty much no-one. And then either London or Barrie, depending on who wins tomorrow. LONDON C - Bo Horvat (15) C - Max Domi (19) D - Nikita Zadorov (22) LW - Remi Elie (71) D - Dakota Mermis (95) C - Kyle Platzer (110) D - Miles Liberati (150) G - Jake Patterson (G-20) BARRIE C - Erik Bradford (145) C - Zach Hall (158) D - Michael Webster (223) G - Alex Fotinos (G-38) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Frederick Gauthier good article http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/30/frederik-gauthier-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-21/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Well, we can thank the Red Wings for eliminating Anaheim, as we just moved up another spot in the draft. 30, 29, 28, 27 are all cup and conf. finalists. Anaheim is now slotted in at 26, Montreal at 25, and us at 24. If CHI and PIT get eliminated before round 3, we move down to 22. Can't go any lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 [ agree tho that sauve sucks. The Roy trade is highly underrated- I feel Cannauton also sucks, he took a big steo back this year in the AHL, but you never know. I think it goes to show the quality of other team's scouting. I would have gladly resigned roy t0 4-5 mill then get a late 2nd and a prospect that is likley to not ever make a meaningful impact in the NHL. also Roy is not that old and Dallas doesnt exactly have a big payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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